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Posted: 5/3/2022 6:16:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: What is the correct address to mail them to? The address listed on the cover sheet. |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 8:48:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The address listed on the cover sheet. That's where they were sent. My next question: Am I the retard or are they? |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 9:13:00 AM EDT
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Its happened to me twice now. Funny thing is I did 3 at the same time. One was denied for a bad trust, one denied for fingerprints not received, and one approved. All 3 done at the same time, all 3 cover sheets sent in with fingerprint cards, all 3 used same trust. Round 3 soon for the other 2. Silly.
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Posted: 5/3/2022 9:29:42 AM EDT
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I've said the same thing to every single person I've helped work through the form 1 process: assume from beginning that the ATF is actively working to discourage you from doing this, then everything will make sense.
You can pay a couple extra bucks to ship with tracking if you want next time. Make sure you're filling out the fingerprint card correctly too, and there are templates out there so you can confirm that. |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 9:38:36 AM EDT
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I used Fedex 2 day to send my prints mostly because it was less than a week before Christmas and I wanted in before the Eform site change over.
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Posted: 5/3/2022 9:53:52 AM EDT
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i dont know if you tracked it or not, but on my last 2 F1's, i sent the fingerprints priority mail the same day i submitted the eForms. They took 5 days to leave Texas, then went to New Jersey, from there to Colorado, then to New Mexico. By this time i was just a few days from my 10 business days to submit. So I rolled another set and sent them 2nd day Fedex. My second set and the first set arrived the same day....
Point is, track it, USPS drops the ball at times. |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 12:29:56 PM EDT
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They must be in a denial kind of mood this month. I had a AK pistol that I form 1’d to make into an SBR and it came back approved within 2 weeks in April 2022. I sent in two other SBR Form 1’s the same day, and one came back disapproved due to an invalid signature on my RPQ (same digital signature I used on the approved form 1 that was submitted the same day on a different Form 1 application) and the second form 1 application was denied because I apparently used an invalid model number. Seems like they could have just sent me a correction email for the erroneous model number, but I’m having to re-submit both denied applications from scratch including sending new fingerprint cards.
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Posted: 5/3/2022 7:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My next question: Am I the retard or are they? Yes. 
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Posted: 5/3/2022 10:13:48 PM EDT
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I use UPS and usually 2 day transit for my location.
/Knocks on wood : all prints received |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 8:42:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've said the same thing to every single person I've helped work through the form 1 process: assume from beginning that the ATF is actively working to discourage you from doing this, then everything will make sense. You can pay a couple extra bucks to ship with tracking if you want next time. Make sure you're filling out the fingerprint card correctly too, and there are templates out there so you can confirm that. When I did a form on I sent requiring a signature at delivery also. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:36:59 AM EDT
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People think I’m crazy, but I don’t do the E-Form crapola.
I mail in forms and wait and get a real stamp in the mail. Everything arrives together, nothing is claimed to be not there. So I have to wait longer, big deal. I’ll shoot my other 87 cans/receivers/MGs... |
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Posted: 5/12/2022 7:57:19 PM EDT
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Last ones I sent certified.
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Posted: 5/23/2022 6:46:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last ones I sent certified. I sent my fingerprints certified but really does it matter? If the ATF says they cannot find them you are most likely screwed. |
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Posted: 5/24/2022 2:33:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I sent my fingerprints certified but really does it matter? If the ATF says they cannot find them you are most likely screwed. Doesn’t matter a bit. The person opening the envelope isn’t gonna be the one processing the cards, and I’m sure there’s no chain of custody form going from the mail room to the FBI and back to the ATF. So being able to prove they were delivered won’t get you anywhere. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 6:47:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I sent my fingerprints certified but really does it matter? If the ATF says they cannot find them you are most likely screwed. Came to say exactly this. I'd say we've probably had one every 6-8 months go missing at my shop (thanks USPS) and we used to mail everything with tracking. After the third or fourth go round, nobody cared about or would accept any type of tracking info, they could care less if it got delivered or not.....they still couldn't find them. Fedex, UPS, overnight, USPS signature required, etc., anything beyond a normal USPS stamp is a waste of your money to be honest. |
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Posted: 5/25/2022 7:09:54 PM EDT
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I wonder if there is an actual directive from "upstairs" to find a way to deny, reject, or otherwise fail to approve a certain percentage of the forms the various clerks receive now that there is a new administration in the White House?
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Posted: 5/26/2022 12:51:22 AM EDT
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I send that shit priority mail.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:59:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if there is an actual directive from "upstairs" to find a way to deny, reject, or otherwise fail to approve a certain percentage of the forms the various clerks receive now that there is a new administration in the White House? There must be. I was denied 3 times for a SBR form 1. They lost the prints once, wrong model number the second time, and just flat out denied with no reason given. This has to be a flat 30% rejection rate that they bake into the process to try and slow down the numbers. Its the only thing that makes sense to me. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 3:32:10 PM EDT
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I’ve always used UPS letter…it’s cheaper than ground and tracked. Once delivered, and on the off chance of a denial because “fingerprints didn’t arrive”, I’d respond with tracking info and date it was delivered. Ask then how to proceed because they have it.
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