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Posted: 7/20/2021 6:43:12 PM EDT
If I get the engraving done below where the side saddle is, because it is easily removable, is that good to go?
I have a long ass name, so engraving takes up some space. Looking for as low profile as possible. Attached File |
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Not sure if that is gtg or not but, why not engrave the receiver then have a window milled into the saddle so all you have to do i remove the shells instead of having to take the saddle off?
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It's an el cheap side saddle I've had since I got the shotgun roughly 15 years ago. I dont think the shells would hold.
Attached File ETA: Now that the barrels short and the extension tube is worthless, I am considering a side saddle that carries 6-8 to make up for the capacity on hand. Open to recommendations for that as well. This gun is gonna be a range toy, and probably carried if ever backpacking or the like. Not really a hunting or defensive gun. Just built for fun. |
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I see what you are saying. The original pic looked like you could engrave along the bottom of the saddle and mill a windows. The close up showed me that the receiver is angled in toward the bottom of the saddle so, that is not possible.
Good luck figuring out your solution, I do not run side saddles so I can not help you pick one. |
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Originally Posted By rookie421: I see what you are saying. The original pic looked like you could engrave along the bottom of the saddle and mill a windows. The close up showed me that the receiver is angled in toward the bottom of the saddle so, that is not possible. Good luck figuring out your solution, I do not run side saddles so I can not help you pick one. View Quote Good thought though, so I'll keep that window cut idea in mind as I look at side saddles. I might end up just engraving the barrel, since it's the only short barrel that is going on this gun. Is engraving on barrel good if it's on the underside by the mag tube where you don't see it when the gun's assembled? Or does it have to be visible when the gun's assembled, IE, on the side like manufacturer marks etc. |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon: You could easily engrave in any of these three spots: https://i.postimg.cc/zG55L3Xp/3-B0-A4137-2-C63-4032-B7-C3-6-C114-D5938-E9.jpg View Quote Wow, I feel dumb. The spot right above the load port is exactly where Mossbers engrave. That would be simple, and not obnoxious. |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Originally Posted By FredMan: That's where mine is engraved, and what THSF suggested. But my trust is only 4 characters long View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FredMan: Originally Posted By slims_88: Wow, I feel dumb. The spot right above the load port is exactly where Mossbers engrave. That would be simple, and not obnoxious. That's where mine is engraved, and what THSF suggested. But my trust is only 4 characters long None of my 4 names is as short as 4 letters. |
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Originally Posted By slims_88: None of my 4 names is as short as 4 letters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By slims_88: Originally Posted By FredMan: Originally Posted By slims_88: Wow, I feel dumb. The spot right above the load port is exactly where Mossbers engrave. That would be simple, and not obnoxious. That's where mine is engraved, and what THSF suggested. But my trust is only 4 characters long None of my 4 names is as short as 4 letters. I did my 3 initials for my trust name. |
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FWIW, as long as the engraving is "conspicuous" on the firearm, it doesn't matter if it gets covered by an accessory.
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Your life matters just as much as mine, it is up to you, what you do with your time.
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Do we have to engrave the receiver or can the barrel be done, like an AR?
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Edit: It was until ATF changed CFR on August 24, 2022. Now the barrel is not an acceptable NFA engraving location. |
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I engraved the barrels.
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Originally Posted By Manimals: That is no longer an acceptable engraving location sadly… View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Manimals: Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater: I engraved the barrels. That is no longer an acceptable engraving location sadly… When did that change. |
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BikerNut:
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: When did that change. View Quote https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/overview-final-rule-2021r-05f-definition-“frame-or-receiver”-and-identification/download |
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I just did the barrel. 27 CFR 478.92 still showing as an acceptable location.
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: August 24, 2022 https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/overview-final-rule-2021r-05f-definition- View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KitBuilder: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: When did that change. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/guide/overview-final-rule-2021r-05f-definition- Link doesn’t work on my phone. I’ll try and look it up manually Attached File |
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BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles. People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird. |
Link fixed.
Originally Posted By brodband8: I just did the barrel. 27 CFR 478.92 still showing as an acceptable location. View Quote https://regulations.atf.gov/478-92/2022-17741#478-92-a-1-ii-A |
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: Link fixed. You've got to click up at the top to get the latest revision of 8/24/22. https://regulations.atf.gov/478-92/2022-17741#478-92-a-1-ii-A View Quote It still says: Attached File |
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Originally Posted By brodband8: It still says: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283538/regs_JPG-2669679.JPG View Quote @RenegadeX @jbntex |
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: I think that's for imported Title I (GCA) firearms. View Quote MARKING REQUIREMENTS – NFA FIREARMS (27 CFR § 479.102) Still shows as of current the barrel is fine. Attached File |
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I skimmed the piece in the link and it seems like they are talking about FFL’s and ghost guns that come into their possession
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BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles. People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird. |
Some of y'all are quoting 478. NFA regs are 479.
§ 479.102 Identification of firearms. (a) Identification required. Except as otherwise provided in this section, you, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows: (1) Serial number, name, place of business. By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or otherwise placed on the frame or receiver thereof, an individual serial number, in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed. The serial number must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. The frame or receiver must also be marked with either: Your name (or recognized abbreviation), and city and State (or recognized abbreviation) where you as a manufacturer or importer maintain your place of business, or in the case of a maker, where you made the firearm; or if a manufacturer or importer, your name (or recognized abbreviation) and the serial number that begins with your abbreviated Federal firearms license number, which is the first three and last five digits, as a prefix to a unique identification number, followed by a hyphen, e.g., “12345678-[unique identification number]”; and (2) Model, caliber or gauge, foreign manufacturer, country of manufacture. By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver, or barrel or pistol slide (if applicable) thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed. The additional information shall include: (i) The model, if such designation has been made; (ii) The caliber or gauge; (iii) When applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker; and (iv) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134. View Quote In short, Receiver or frame has the manufacturers, importers or makers name, serial# and location. For model, caliber or gauge, foreign manufacturer and country of manufacture........you can use receiver, frame, barrel or slide. |
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I engraved the barrel on my SBS. Fortunately it was approved before August this year. I did not know about this change until now.
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