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Quoted: Starting to wonder about Dillon the more I look into this 1050.. They included a Square D powder drop when unit was repaired. On the phone I was assured it was all the same, but why different part numbers then. It has the wrong die for 1050. I questioned the length of powder bar return rod, seemed too long. Well I started comparing things part numbers are in fact different for rods 1050 - 13960, 550 - 9700, 650 - 13629, Square D - 13876 one I was sent. Been on the phone with them twice to get bent primer tube issue fixed because of bad packing and also about powder drop issue, which they seem to O-well it. View Quote This is not what I would expect from Dillon. |
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Seems shipping just threw things in without verifying. Whole other thing about shell plate. Same day shipping out 1050 I see a charge alert of 79.99, called to find out what it was, .45 shell plate on back order, OK, sell me the whole kit since it's in stock, done. Get 1050 unpacked and it has a new shell plate, scratch head, so when I'm on phone about primer tube I ask about this, O, it was taken from a kit, OK. Why wasn't I told or better yet, why wasn't it in file so there was no confusion? When the kit gets here I'll ship in back, they did give me a RMA for it.
They are nice enough about all, maybe under staffed because of COVID, they're not the only company having troubles with it. Over all I'm very happy with things. My first progressive and want to make sure all is right, don't know enough to say: "It'll work just fine with other parts" It's always the details. |
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Update: they are sending out a primer tube and powder drop die. Gotta say one thing: "Mike took care of this problem quick".
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Quoted: How hot do the fins get? May need a higher RPM fan, I haven't run mine yet. View Quote I run about 1000 pieces and they are warm not burn u warm but def need airflow over them to protect motor. Your twin fan setup should be perfect. ETA: looked at your pics for powder rod looks just like mine. Also if you want more room on toolhead grab a CNC toolhead. |
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As others have mentioned, sell the 550 for money to work on the 1050.
The 1050 is a high volume rig, it takes a lot of shooting to make them worth the effort. I enjoy reloading almost as much as a do shooting so I would not want it over any faster than what a 550 gets it done. Some people look at reloading as chore and nothing more. I look at it as a way to extend the shooting sports into more than shooting a cleaning my weapons. Plus, I can do it a savings over current ammo prices. I load a Mk262 clone for about the same money as a M193 clone and Mk262 is expensive ammo to buy in a Blackhills box. I can load 9mm crazy cheap also using Blue Bullets and range pickup brass. I got my 550 for $25 at an estate sale! |
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Quoted: As others have mentioned, sell the 550 for money to work on the 1050. The 1050 is a high volume rig, it takes a lot of shooting to make them worth the effort. I enjoy reloading almost as much as a do shooting so I would not want it over any faster than what a 550 gets it done. Some people look at reloading as chore and nothing more. I look at it as a way to extend the shooting sports into more than shooting a cleaning my weapons. Plus, I can do it a savings over current ammo prices. I load a Mk262 clone for about the same money as a M193 clone and Mk262 is expensive ammo to buy in a Blackhills box. I can load 9mm crazy cheap also using Blue Bullets and range pickup brass. I got my 550 for $25 at an estate sale! View Quote If I was honest with myself, I'd sell the 1050 and keep 550, don't shoot enough to justify the 1050; however, I lie to myself about going to range more and needing the 1050. I like the hobby and reloading is a hobby to me, not a job. Need to sell 550 to fund more stuff for 1050 now, getting out of control. hahahhaha |
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I don't have a 1050, but have loaded on one at a friends. Great press that I look for used all the time. Someday.
Right now two 550's and 4 SDB's are getting me by. Only the first 550 and SDB were bought from Dillon, the rest were funshow deals. Maybe a 750 is in my future if I don't find a 1050 for cheap. |
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Quoted: As others have mentioned, sell the 550 for money to work on the 1050. The 1050 is a high volume rig, it takes a lot of shooting to make them worth the effort. I enjoy reloading almost as much as a do shooting so I would not want it over any faster than what a 550 gets it done. Some people look at reloading as chore and nothing more. I look at it as a way to extend the shooting sports into more than shooting a cleaning my weapons. Plus, I can do it a savings over current ammo prices. I load a Mk262 clone for about the same money as a M193 clone and Mk262 is expensive ammo to buy in a Blackhills box. I can load 9mm crazy cheap also using Blue Bullets and range pickup brass. I got my 550 for $25 at an estate sale! View Quote I'm kinda the opposite, I enjoy shooting but haven't gotten too into reloading. To me it's something I do so I can shoot more. The 1050 means I spend less time at the reloading press than the 450 I have and get out a lot more ammo. In terms of total volume, technically I couldn't justify the 1050 either. It's interesting how priorities changed. When I picked up the 450 it was getting into reloading as cheap as possible to be able to shoot more, my time at the time was cheap. Now, time is more precious, and I am willing to swap some money for more time. Of course it didn't hurt to pick up the 1050 at a steal as well. |
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Quoted: Same here, thanks. Guess some part numbers mean nothing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The rid is roughly 9 3/4" long Same here, thanks. Guess some part numbers mean nothing. No, there is a difference. The 1050 has a hole for a clip at the top of it and the 550 one has a dogleg that you feed through the powder measure actuator linkage to operate the measure. So that is the difference of the current models and why there is different part #'s for that. The part # differences for the powder measures are as follows. 20782 is the 550, 650, 750 powder measure assembly. It is a powder measure and silver in color die for it to sit on. Uses a 2 Allen screw retainer to hold the measure to the die. 20001 is the Square Deal B powder measure assembly. Sits on the same silver in color die, but has a single Allen screw to attach the retaining clip to the measure. 20421 is the 1050, 1100 powder measure assembly. Same as the 550, 650 and 750 measure, but uses a black heat treated powder die. |
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I have older SD's that had the dogleg clip, hard on your hand to take off to empty PM.
The newer fail safe rod has the hitch pin, a lot easier on your hand. I recommend upgrading if you have the dogleg clip rod. |
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Quoted: No, there is a difference. The 1050 has a hole for a clip at the top of it and the 550 one has a dogleg that you feed through the powder measure actuator linkage to operate the measure. So that is the difference of the current models and why there is different part #'s for that. The part # differences for the powder measures are as follows. 20782 is the 550, 650, 750 powder measure assembly. It is a powder measure and silver in color die for it to sit on. Uses a 2 Allen screw retainer to hold the measure to the die. 20001 is the Square Deal B powder measure assembly. Sits on the same silver in color die, but has a single Allen screw to attach the retaining clip to the measure. 20421 is the 1050, 1100 powder measure assembly. Same as the 550, 650 and 750 measure, but uses a . View Quote Thanks.. I was comparing the bare rod numbers. Dillon is sending out the black heat treated powder die and a primer mag tube. Waiting for the 550 extras pics? |
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Can't get less than 3.5 grains of N320 out of Dillon powder drop, trying to get 3.4, small bar is in. Had it screwed to a stop CCW before dumping powder. Loading 147 gr 9mm. I did find a couple black plastic ARREDONDO bars, they close up pretty small, read they have to be fitted.
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An old trick used with shotgun powder bushings is to put blue tape inside the bushing to get a smaller charge.
Adapt that technique to the powder bars. Or epoxy to make powder space smaller. |
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Quoted: An old trick used with shotgun powder bushings is to put blue tape inside the bushing to get a smaller charge. Adapt that technique to the powder bars. Or epoxy to make powder space smaller. View Quote Great idea. Think 3.5 gr of N320 is too much for starting load? Reading about people going up to 4.0. Guess I could fit the ARREDONDO bar, it's a PDS-1. |
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Good score OP
Once you have run a few hundred or so rounds off on the machine in manual mode to check all the settings are good, the auto-drive will make short work of keeping you in ammo Excellent score - esp. with the 550 press included, let alone the bullet feeder & auto-drive Good price haggle too; I saw the photos of the haul & my brain came up with the same figure as you got it for (though I missed that there was a 550 in there too) Regret turning down a Dillon 1000 a while ago. Running a few 550 presses and some 450 presses. LOVE my Dillon machines - they are just so well made |
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Quoted: Went back to guy I got the stuff from to look at powder and primers he has, quite a load, working on price. 4 - 8# H110 2 - 8# Longshot 3 - 8# Universal Clays 74 - 1# Silhuette 7 - 2000 rd boxes of Frontier 223 55gr 17 cases of CCI lg pistol primers 5 cases of CCI sm rifle 400 2 cases of CCI sm rifle mag 450 2 cases of Winchester lg pistol WLP Then he took me back to a warehouse room like the other, forgot stuff was in there. Jackpot, spent a few minutes collecting, going back to clean up and get all. https://i.imgur.com/92VQ9rZm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/0MEe76fm.jpgMissing power supply and dies messed up https://i.imgur.com/yEPJsHJm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/edKZqIfm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/QKSjH4dm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/qAQIbU0m.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1Ve66g0m.jpg couple thousand more new 9mm https://i.imgur.com/ZjeIyo7m.jpg View Quote You are set for a while. |
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You mentioned the dies were messed up. If by that you meant the MBF dropper dies, they are remarkably simple, and not much to be messed up in them. Inner body, outer body, and the 3 ball bearings you found earlier, and that is all she wrote.
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Quoted: Don't think I'll get all powder unless I have to as a package deal, then I need to get rid of most of it. Primers I'll keep, bullets not sure of all, 14000 is lot. View Quote Years in the future when you run out of them, you will be aghast at the replacement price. Give you an example, the Wolf primer thread. When purchased they were $75 per 5K. Price is double that if you can find primers. |
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Quoted: You mentioned the dies were messed up. If by that you meant the MBF dropper dies, they are remarkably simple, and not much to be messed up in them. Inner body, outer body, and the 3 ball bearings you found earlier, and that is all she wrote. View Quote Looks like they didn't have dies set right and kept pushing case in too far and eating away at inner body, now case almost slides in too far. |
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Quoted: Loaded 15 rds and with all the excitement I misplace the 9mm bullet checker. So I took P226 apart and chambered them, fell right in, but they look odd. Sizing too small? https://i.imgur.com/8AYTOn7h.jpg View Quote Undersized die, or maybe not fully sizing? |
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Quoted: Went back to guy I got the stuff from to look at powder and primers he has, quite a load, working on price. 4 - 8# H110 2 - 8# Longshot 3 - 8# Universal Clays 74 - 1# Silhuette 7 - 2000 rd boxes of Frontier 223 55gr 17 cases of CCI lg pistol primers 5 cases of CCI sm rifle 400 2 cases of CCI sm rifle mag 450 2 cases of Winchester lg pistol WLP Then he took me back to a warehouse room like the other, forgot stuff was in there. Jackpot, spent a few minutes collecting, going back to clean up and get all. https://i.imgur.com/92VQ9rZm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/0MEe76fm.jpgMissing power supply and dies messed up https://i.imgur.com/yEPJsHJm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/edKZqIfm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/QKSjH4dm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/qAQIbU0m.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1Ve66g0m.jpg couple thousand more new 9mm https://i.imgur.com/ZjeIyo7m.jpg View Quote Hey theres some brass sorters. You just need to get a 5 gallon bucket now for the tumbler. |
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Quoted: Good score OP Once you have run a few hundred or so rounds off on the machine in manual mode to check all the settings are good, the auto-drive will make short work of keeping you in ammo Excellent score - esp. with the 550 press included, let alone the bullet feeder & auto-drive Good price haggle too; I saw the photos of the haul & my brain came up with the same figure as you got it for (though I missed that there was a 550 in there too) Regret turning down a Dillon 1000 a while ago. Running a few 550 presses and some 450 presses. LOVE my Dillon machines - they are just so well made View Quote Thanks. Just used the 550 to load 15 rounds for testing. In all honesty, that's all I really need. I've been loading rifle on the T7 for so long I got used to the slow repetitive tasks. The 550 makes quick work comparing. |
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Quoted: Loaded 15 rds and with all the excitement I misplace the 9mm bullet checker. So I took P226 apart and chambered them, fell right in, but they look odd. Sizing too small? https://i.imgur.com/8AYTOn7h.jpg View Quote They plunk in your barrel so they are fine. Dies pushed the brass to the minimum sized and the brass walls vary in thickness which makes it appear to be undersized when the bullet is inserted. I see this often using mixed brass and blue bullets and have no issues shooting them. A factory sizing die is made specifically for that company's brass so the brass is sized perfectly for the wall thickness and bullet combination. |
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Quoted: They plunk in your barrel so they are fine. Dies pushed the brass to the minimum sized and the brass walls vary in thickness which makes it appear to be undersized when the bullet is inserted. I see this often using mixed brass and blue bullets and have no issues shooting them. A factory sizing die is made specifically for that company's brass so the brass is sized perfectly for the wall thickness and bullet combination. View Quote Ok, thanks. Didn't change powder bar yet, so it was dropping 3.5 to 3.6 N320. Hope it's fine. |
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Quoted: Got another bullet check, could not find the other one. 9 of the 20 loads failed, stopped just above the extractor rim. Checked the bullets, got them with equipment, they measured .357 to .358, not sure what uses that diameter. Not sure why 11 passed, maybe difference brass thickess? Loaded more with new bullets I bought, all checked good. Those pesky little 380s, like to take the guy who thought up that round behind a woodshed. hahaha Had one make it into rotation, felt it as bullet was pushing into case. Thought that big box of primed 9mm was all 9mm,, not. Now I have to sort that, has to be 45 lbs of it. Got the primer tube housing for 1050 from Dillon, the other was bent pretty good, bad on left. Now I can start loading with that. https://i.imgur.com/pQYr5jEh.jpg View Quote Those bullets are for 38/357. 9mm use .355 diameter bullets. Pull down the ones you loaded. Even though the plunked they most likely will be unsafe. They plunked because the are seated deep and aren't hitting the lands yet. Plunk testing is more related to bullet seating depth than anything else. |
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Quoted: Those bullets are for 38/357. 9mm use .355 diameter bullets. Pull down the ones you loaded. Even though the plunked they most likely will be unsafe. They plunked because the are seated deep and aren't hitting the lands yet. Plunk testing is more related to bullet seating depth than anything else. View Quote OK, thanks, will do. I'll measure the other bullets that I got with press, none of them had packaging labels. The new bullets I bought are .355. Love that little 550. |
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Quoted: Got another bullet check, could not find the other one. 9 of the 20 loads failed, stopped just above the extractor rim. Checked the bullets, got them with equipment, they measured .357 to .358, not sure what uses that diameter. Not sure why 11 passed, maybe difference brass thickess? Loaded more with new bullets I bought, all checked good. Those pesky little 380s, like to take the guy who thought up that round behind a woodshed. hahaha Had one make it into rotation, felt it as bullet was pushing into case. Thought that big box of primed 9mm was all 9mm,, not. Now I have to sort that, has to be 45 lbs of it. Got the primer tube housing for 1050 from Dillon, the other was bent pretty good, bad on left. Now I can start loading with that. https://i.imgur.com/pQYr5jEh.jpg View Quote Like 380 in 9 mm's, easy to mix up .357 bullet with .355 bullets. |
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A thought on your powder bar.
I went with a Dillon x small powder bar and the Arrendondo powder drop slide with micrometer. When I load .32 wadcutters on the 550, I can consistently get drops of 1.7 grains of WST. Liked the setup so well. I got one for the 1050 in 9mm. |
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Quoted: Bullet identification, thought .45 until I measured. Where used? .4285 .4290 https://i.imgur.com/MjyTqIkh.jpg View Quote .429 is 44 mag Whidden trim dies are gtg |
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