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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:27:29 AM EDT
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I have EZ Lok with my Odessa and it has been fine. Run across several hosts.
Not a ton of rounds, but probably a couple hundred with this setup. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 8:45:42 AM EDT
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The piston dimensions are identical. The cam-lok system has obviously had some issues with end users, and has a little customer orientation period, so I can see that being less than ideal and warranting a disclaimer/recommendation not to use.
EZ lok is far more secure than direct thread pistons. For example we just fired 2000rds on a rimfire handgun in ~ 2 hours without inadvertent loosening of the checkmate hd. The purpose of that test was a disassembly demonstration. That can was too hot to check tighten for the duration of the test, so it had just been solidly attached at the beginning and it came off without issues at the end. We are competing brands. People at Dead Air don’t get paid when we sell a piston but they also don’t lose a can sale to a customer who wants that system, because it is available. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 8:58:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have EZ Lok with my Odessa and it has been fine. Run across several hosts. Not a ton of rounds, but probably a couple hundred with this setup. No issues at all. But also have only put few boxes of 9mm through it. Maybe 200-250 rounds. Even though I don't clean suppressor baffles very often, I do try to keep the pistons well cleaned and lubed. My understanding is that dirty pistons can cause a lot of problems and pronounced wear. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 9:27:24 AM EDT
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I bought the CamLok piston shortly after purchasing the can last year. The purpose of this can was for use on my pistols with stock sights and no optics and I love using the CamLok system.
Only difference I can see when comparing the DA and GA pistons is the GA is slightly longer. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 10:31:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought the CamLok piston shortly after purchasing the can last year. The purpose of this can was for use on my pistols with stock sights and no optics and I love using the CamLok system. Only difference I can see when comparing the DA and GA pistons is the GA is slightly longer. Thanks for the positive feedback. Im glad you are having a good experience. The length difference is because the piston is compatible with Silencer Co, Rugged, and Dead Air cans (Dead Air also has a second piston version for the Ghost). The engineers and owners of those companies have roots with Silencer Co. A former Silencer Co engineer also designed and helped stand up the Gunworx suppressor line, so thats 4 Silencer Co team companies. I probably missed a few. Vista outdoors was selling a SiCo white label brand Blackhawk suppressors, but they dropped that (5th) brand so it no longer exists. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 3:17:51 PM EDT
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I started with Cam-Lok, now have switched to EZ-Lok on my Odessa and all my other (mainly GA) suppressors. I haven't had any issues I could attribute to either design/ being a "foreign" piston.
What I have experienced is the Odessa sends a metric crapton more gunk back into the action than my other suppressors, so much that it will make a gun with lots of moving parts in the bolt/fine tolerances lock up a lot faster (less than 50 rounds on a BHP, for instance). This is with Speer 147. You'll find your booster will be caked with the stuff quickly, so keep it well lubed. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 4:07:48 PM EDT
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Thanks for the history lesson Green0
 Appreciate the info Airman.  I adopted the CamLok system early on and spent a bit of $ on it so I’m sticking with it. I’ve tried the EZLok and can see how people like it more. You just have to know the trick to mount a can to the CamLok system and I’ve gotten used to it. I was really excited to test out the new cans I just got on a batch approval but will have to wait until next weekend since my plans fell through. I’ll have the Odessa ready with a CamLok piston though. 
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Posted: 6/5/2023 6:57:33 AM EDT
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Is the slightly longer EZ/ Cam Lok piston part of the reason they won’t work with Gen 4/5 Glocks or is it just the adapter diameter?
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Posted: 6/5/2023 8:47:07 AM EDT
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I have an Odessa. I started with Cam Lok and then moved to EZ Lok. The EZ Lok is very secure and I have had no baffle strikes. I use cheap 147gr handloads, and shoot it a good bit. Its on a Gen 4 G19. There are some dings on the plastic nub, but nothing that seems to impact function, at least since I switched to a .40 G23 spring. Before, it was a bit sluggish going back into battery sometimes, but I’m not sure that had anything to do with the piston. Probably just a gun quirk.
You do have to clean pretty often with the Odessa, and keep the piston lubed. I lube it between cleanings without disassembly. |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 8:55:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I adopted the CamLok system early on and spent a bit of $ on it so I'm sticking with it. I've tried the EZLok and can see how people like it more. You just have to know the trick to mount a can to the CamLok system and I've gotten used to it. I like Cam Lok enough that I won't be changing it out. Plus I like the 3-lug like QD aspect. |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 11:18:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the slightly longer EZ/ Cam Lok piston part of the reason they won’t work with Gen 4/5 Glocks or is it just the adapter diameter? The longer piston would just better clear the piston retainer from the RSA in front as the slide begins to move backward prior to barrel unlocking. People can convert G4/5 Glocks with a Gen 3 slide hole adapter and Gen 3 RSA for about $30. The barrel adapters have .75” flats (the same diameter as a std piston), but some people have the corners contact the guide rod on the short 9mm adapter. There is a longer 9mm adapter intended for .630” threaded pcc’s and it should also provide native clearance at least as well as any legacy direct thread piston. I kind of prefer the modify the Glock strategy as that is more the issue than the adapter. |
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