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Posted: 4/15/2023 9:52:51 AM EDT
I have a somewhat big head (7 5/8) and the stock chinstrap on the Crye Nightcap was not great.  There was a guy on the Gram who swapped over to a Ops Core Head-Loc 4-Point H-Nape, which will accommodate much larger heads and costs about $28 on eBay, but he didn't post a lot of pics.  I did this mod yesterday and it's great for big-headed dudes who want to use a Nightcap.  I used 550 cord to attach the back connections but a D-Ring or even a zip tie would have accomplished the same objective.  Up front on both sides, I reused the factory rings.  Side benefit is the strap routing is now improved for running earpro.

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Link Posted: 4/15/2023 9:54:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Eric_T_Cartman] [#1]
Moar pics:

Edit to add:  I am running the Crye Nightcap rear counterweight pouch, but removed it for these pics as it covers the relevant parts of the Nightcap mod.

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Link Posted: 4/15/2023 10:39:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2023 12:24:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Off to EBay to buy a few H Nape. Thank OP great mod to the Night Cap
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 11:43:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks good! I solved my Nightcap issues by using the 'EE' option....
Link Posted: 4/17/2023 10:37:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Will have to look at that. The stock harness sux.
Link Posted: 4/17/2023 11:13:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Would definitely recommend this even if you don't have a big head. I used a strap from one of my packs and it makes a world of difference.

Link Posted: 4/21/2023 12:59:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Any chance this is the right EBay listing? Seller notes this is a S/M/L/XL, but yours shows L/XL. Couldn’t find any part number to match the one shown in your photo on this listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175419498325?hash=item28d7d11f55:g:fVkAAOSwU~xg-HiD
Link Posted: 4/21/2023 1:49:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigdot:
Any chance this is the right EBay listing? Seller notes this is a S/M/L/XL, but yours shows L/XL. Couldn’t find any part number to match the one shown in your photo on this listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175419498325?hash=item28d7d11f55:g:fVkAAOSwU~xg-HiD
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Hmmm, not sure.  Here is my packaging:

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Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:36:34 PM EDT
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I might have to do that as well, as soon as I figure out the proper way to get the holes in the thing. I would admit I haven't tried too hard.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:51:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KPog:
I might have to do that as well, as soon as I figure out the proper way to get the holes in the thing. I would admit I haven't tried too hard.
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@KPog If you're referring to mounting the shroud, shine a light from the under side to see the pre drilled holes in the plastic backing plate, then use a soldering iron to poke through the fabric.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:56:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigdot:
Any chance this is the right EBay listing? Seller notes this is a S/M/L/XL, but yours shows L/XL. Couldn’t find any part number to match the one shown in your photo on this listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175419498325?hash=item28d7d11f55:g:fVkAAOSwU~xg-HiD
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There are several variants of there, so you have to be careful of which one you buy. Make sure the mounting holes are correct. I have bought a few that where size specific as well as one that was universal fit all sizes
Link Posted: 5/5/2023 8:31:03 AM EDT
[#12]
Any reason why the universal-fit chinstrap wouldn't work with this mod?

I need a left-handed one but the only one I can find on ebay is an S-XL model.

FWIW my head measurement lands right in the middle of Ops Core's S-XL chinstrap size range.

Link Posted: 5/5/2023 9:40:15 AM EDT
[#13]
No reason at all. It works just fine.
Link Posted: 5/12/2023 6:47:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Thanks for costing me money! It was well spent.

As to the universal-sized question (S-XL version) - that's what I got, and I believe I prefer it for two reasons:


  1. I purchased two - I have a 7-3/4 head and my son has a smaller head, and it worked for both of us; and

  2. we were able to tie it directly into the loops on the night cap without having to use the paracord adapter that the OP used.


I appreciate the suggestion, OP. I had not been using my night cap due to not being able to make it comfortable for me. I'll give it a go this weekend to see how it works for me now compared to the raptor sentinel I've been using for soft mounting.
Link Posted: 7/18/2023 9:11:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jowga:
Thanks for costing me money! It was well spent.

As to the universal-sized question (S-XL version) - that's what I got, and I believe I prefer it for two reasons:


  1. I purchased two - I have a 7-3/4 head and my son has a smaller head, and it worked for both of us; and

  2. we were able to tie it directly into the loops on the night cap without having to use the paracord adapter that the OP used.


I appreciate the suggestion, OP. I had not been using my night cap due to not being able to make it comfortable for me. I'll give it a go this weekend to see how it works for me now compared to the raptor sentinel I've been using for soft mounting.
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I followed your path but my harness has grommets at the tops, for attaching to a helmet.  How did you connect those to the hangers on the nightcap?  The harness ends are sewn on so I cant thread them through the nightcap directly.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 9:07:02 AM EDT
[#16]
I used the metal rings of the Ncap.
This is one of the most useful mods I've gotten off this site.
SJC
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 10:59:33 AM EDT
[#17]
Looks like the op used the metal rings in the front and paracord in the back.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:04:26 AM EDT
[#18]
Do the metal rings just pull apart?
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:17:01 AM EDT
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If I recall correctly they have a cut in the middle top bar.  Just get pliers and bend them a little
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 5:28:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JonLSU:
If I recall correctly they have a cut in the middle top bar.  Just get pliers and bend them a little
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This is correct
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 7:26:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JonLSU:
If I recall correctly they have a cut in the middle top bar.  Just get pliers and bend them a little
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Yep, that's how I did it. Similar to the pic a couple of replies above. He seems to have the tighter size range like the OP, but it works the same with the S-XL harness.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 9:46:06 PM EDT
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I checked and my night cap's metal square loop brackets do not have a seam on them.  Are they painted over and thus hard to see?  In the middle or the sides?
Link Posted: 8/6/2023 5:42:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By codifier:
I checked and my night cap's metal square loop brackets do not have a seam on them.  Are they painted over and thus hard to see?  In the middle or the sides?
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I just did one of mine.  The seam is in the top of the loop so you have to roll it around to the bottom and get a screwdriver and a pair of needle nose pliers and just bend it a little.  

This mod should have been factory.  This makes the nightcap way more comfortable.

I did like the op.  ReUsed the d rings in the front and put paracord in the back.
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 8:11:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JonLSU:


I just did one of mine.  The seam is in the top of the loop so you have to roll it around to the bottom and get a screwdriver and a pair of needle nose pliers and just bend it a little.  

This mod should have been factory.  This makes the nightcap way more comfortable.

I did like the op.  ReUsed the d rings in the front and put paracord in the back.
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Just did the same, now I'm a believer. Haven't played with it too much through strenuous activity but I'm not sure I'll even need a counterweight running a PVS-14. For reference I wear a 7 7/8 hat.
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 9:27:28 PM EDT
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Just did the same, now I'm a believer. Haven't played with it too much through strenuous activity but I'm not sure I'll even need a counterweight running a PVS-14. For reference I wear a 7 7/8 hat.
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Where did you buy your harness?
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 9:53:06 PM EDT
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sadly sold mine because the front straps are too close to each other making glasses not a go.
Link Posted: 9/20/2023 4:12:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chaas67:


Where did you buy your harness?
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Ebay
Link Posted: 9/21/2023 8:35:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/21/2023 3:21:45 PM EDT
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I saw this thread and bought a universal size H-Nape from eBay and it is definitely an upgrade.

Link Posted: 9/21/2023 4:05:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Giving the Shyte Cap one more try. Ordered another one and an H Nape. Looking forward to putting it together, hopefully it works but sounds like it will!
Link Posted: 9/22/2023 1:57:03 AM EDT
[#31]
I did mine recently and it works great.
I used two needle nose pliers to spread the "rings" apart and channel locks to push them back together.
Thanks, OP.
Link Posted: 9/22/2023 8:21:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/17/2023 2:14:56 AM EDT
[#33]
I just installed mine and the difference was huge.

Way more comfortable and stable.
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 9:13:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Johnny_C] [#34]
This is a great upgrade for helmets, too.


John
Link Posted: 12/16/2023 2:18:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
sadly sold mine because the front straps are too close to each other making glasses not a go.
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I haven’t done the OPs mod as the stock harness works fine for me.  As far as eyeglasses go, I did need to pull off the metal d-rings and replace them with a small loop of cord, tied in a simple overhand knot.  My glasses rode right under the metal rings and pushed my glasses all around.
Link Posted: 12/16/2023 4:44:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SekFan:


I haven't done the OPs mod as the stock harness works fine for me.  As far as eyeglasses go, I did need to pull off the metal d-rings and replace them with a small loop of cord, tied in a simple overhand knot.  My glasses rode right under the metal rings and pushed my glasses all around.
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Oooh I might have to try that.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 10:13:53 AM EDT
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I have all four rings split and the original harness removed. I j just need to add the improvised H-Nape harness.

Are all of you cutting off the tan plastic mounting grommets (with the screw holes) that typically would attach the harness to a helmet?
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 6:25:49 PM EDT
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I couldn't wait for an answer so I cut them off and installed the new improvised H-Nape harness to the four split rings. I pressed them close with pliers and plan to test it out this weekend. Thanks OP for the inspiration and photos!
Link Posted: 2/7/2024 10:03:23 PM EDT
[#39]
This is probably the best $25 I've spent on night vision.  I just put an l/xl off eBay on there  there and it really changes it up. Only thing I would say is that I barely wear an ops core large helmet, and the adjustment is all the way down on the front section. I'll probably get a small/medium one to get some more adjustment for me and my daughter. But even at $50 that is probably the least I've spent on anything night vision related other than batteries.
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