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Posted: 4/20/2022 1:52:12 AM EDT
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Your best bet is probably still going to be the CMP. Although they have new barrels and new wood, they are still offering the expert grade in 30-06 for $1100.
Barring that, you might want to sign up at the CMP forum and keep an eye out for some of the ads. But just be aware, most Garands are going for much more than they used to. I would expect to pay in the neighborhood of $1200 to $1500 for just about any Garand these days. And that is barring any perceived collectability factor the seller might want to charge a bit more for. Granted the market might calm back down and the price might follow, but they are simply costing more than ever, no matter where you look. If nothing else, get a couple of the expert grades and hang onto them, shooting one for fun. Then look for what you really want. Maybe use the Experts as leverage later on. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 2:18:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your best bet is probably still going to be the CMP. Although they have new barrels and new wood, they are still offering the expert grade in 30-06 for $1100. Barring that, you might want to sign up at the CMP forum and keep an eye out for some of the ads. But just be aware, most Garands are going for much more than they used to. I would expect to pay in the neighborhood of $1200 to $1500 for just about any Garand these days. And that is barring any perceived collectability factor the seller might want to charge a bit more for. Granted the market might calm back down and the price might follow, but they are simply costing more than ever, no matter where you look. If nothing else, get a couple of the expert grades and hang onto them, shooting one for fun. Then look for what you really want. Maybe use the Experts as leverage later on. So I know the steps to order seem pretty straight forward. Current or past military service. Current or past law enforcement service. CMP or NRA Classification card. Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin). Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor). Visit http://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=match&task=search to find an upcoming CMP sanctioned clinic or match. Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status. Concealed Carry License. But can I send a copy of my actual concealed carry card ?? Because I have no idea where my original certificate is from the class. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 3:58:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I know the steps to order seem pretty straight forward. Current or past military service. Current or past law enforcement service. CMP or NRA Classification card. Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin). Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor). Visit http://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=match&task=search to find an upcoming CMP sanctioned clinic or match. Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status. Concealed Carry License. But can I send a copy of my actual concealed carry card ?? Because I have no idea where my original certificate is from the class. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your best bet is probably still going to be the CMP. Although they have new barrels and new wood, they are still offering the expert grade in 30-06 for $1100. Barring that, you might want to sign up at the CMP forum and keep an eye out for some of the ads. But just be aware, most Garands are going for much more than they used to. I would expect to pay in the neighborhood of $1200 to $1500 for just about any Garand these days. And that is barring any perceived collectability factor the seller might want to charge a bit more for. Granted the market might calm back down and the price might follow, but they are simply costing more than ever, no matter where you look. If nothing else, get a couple of the expert grades and hang onto them, shooting one for fun. Then look for what you really want. Maybe use the Experts as leverage later on. So I know the steps to order seem pretty straight forward. Current or past military service. Current or past law enforcement service. CMP or NRA Classification card. Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin). Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor). Visit http://ct.thecmp.org/app/v1/index.php?do=match&task=search to find an upcoming CMP sanctioned clinic or match. Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status. Concealed Carry License. But can I send a copy of my actual concealed carry card ?? Because I have no idea where my original certificate is from the class. Yes. It states concealed carry license. Of course, you would send them a copy of it. Not your original. In NC, I had to include the original certificate of completion with my CHP package and it wasn't returned. If your state is the same, that is why you can't find it. I sent CMP a copy of my CHP when I initially submitted my application for purchase and it was accepted. Also, if you purchased the rifle you mentioned from them before, you don't have to prove marksmanship again. As a returning customer, you only have to get your forms notarized again, and show proof of current membership in a CMP affiliated club. A lot of people use their GCA membership if they don't have an associated shooting venue available locally. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 10:26:37 AM EDT
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Also if you want one bad enough then consider a trip to one of the stores. They always have stock and sometimes have other rifles such as M1903s as well.
I've not been to the North store but I've been to the South store a lot as well as the Talladega store 30 mins away. It's well worth the trip to be able to pick out your rifle. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 11:08:38 AM EDT
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Go with the CMP Expert for your 1st Garand. I did and I'm happy with mine, so much so as I type this I'm waiting for Fedex to deliver a 2nd one
 https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/New-Expert-30-06-Garand-in-the-House/6-533014/ Here's #2 https://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=296988 |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 1:02:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also if you want one bad enough then consider a trip to one of the stores. They always have stock and sometimes have other rifles such as M1903s as well. I've not been to the North store but I've been to the South store a lot as well as the Talladega store 30 mins away. It's well worth the trip to be able to pick out your rifle. Not anymore. I think the South store is closed until further notice. Talladega has mostly a few rack grade specials and I don't think the North store has much of anything either. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 1:15:33 PM EDT
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Orion does good work. Tony was president of the Garand Collector’s Association and takes martial firearms pretty seriously.
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Posted: 4/20/2022 1:56:06 PM EDT
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One last question if I may.
So I’m filling out the paperwork. For the shipping info do I put the gun shop that I use or my home address, I live in Florida, The reason I ask is because Iv read some people have had them shipped to there door although I’m not sure where they reside. I’m not sure I’d make the drive to talladega for a rack grade. And Orion is a little more then I’d like to spend. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 2:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One last question if I may. So I’m filling out the paperwork. For the shipping info do I put the gun shop that I use or my home address, I live in Florida, The reason I ask is because Iv read some people have had them shipped to there door although I’m not sure where they reside. I’m not sure I’d make the drive to talladega for a rack grade. And Orion is a little more then I’d like to spend. Home address for Florida and other free states. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 2:13:08 PM EDT
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Your address. The form says home address.
Florida looks to only have a restriction of 21 years old. I assume it ships direct. I live in Oregon and the rifle has to go through an FFL. I still put my address there. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 2:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One last question if I may. So I’m filling out the paperwork. For the shipping info do I put the gun shop that I use or my home address, I live in Florida, The reason I ask is because Iv read some people have had them shipped to there door although I’m not sure where they reside. I’m not sure I’d make the drive to talladega for a rack grade. And Orion is a little more then I’d like to spend. Home address in a state that allows it, CMP has that on their website. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 3:41:57 PM EDT
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Thanks guys really appreciate it. I tried to get them on the phone all day but nobody picked up.
Orion 7 only had the match rifles for like $2500. Worth it if your shooting competition. I just want a range gun |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 5:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks guys really appreciate it. I tried to get them on the phone all day but nobody picked up. Orion 7 only had the match rifles for like $2500. Worth it if your shooting competition. I just want a range gun You cant order garands from CMP over the phone. Must mail order. As already stated they will ship to your door depending what state you live in |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 5:22:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You cant order garands from CMP over the phone. Must mail order. As already stated they will ship to your door Yeah, I was calling to try to figure out if they needed FFL info. |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 5:32:33 PM EDT
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Look halfway down the page,looks as though you will have to ship to your FFL
/https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements/ |
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Posted: 4/20/2022 8:07:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look halfway down the page,looks as though you will have to ship to your FFL /https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements/ While his avatar says NY he states he is in Florida. Direct to home address without ffl is good to go OP- change your avatar to indicate you now live in a free state |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:22:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While his avatar says NY he states he is in Florida. Direct to home address without ffl is good to go OP- change your avatar to indicate you now live in a free state You have a keen eye for detail thank you I forgot about that. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:27:01 AM EDT
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Can the stock on the Experts be oiled or are they sealed?
I’d like to put some linseed oil on it |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:36:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Orion does good work. Tony was president of the Garand Collector’s Association and takes martial firearms pretty seriously. Yes, ans he's been around for a long time too. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:46:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can the stock on the Experts be oiled or are they sealed? I’d like to put some linseed oil on it They actually need a couple coats of linseed oil IMO. My 1st was dry as hell and so is the 2nd I got yesterday. I plan on doing that over the weekend |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:55:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can the stock on the Experts be oiled or are they sealed? I’d like to put some linseed oil on it Oil them when you get them. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 10:58:18 AM EDT
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CMP is still your best route - wait if you have to. Or pay for the more premium CMP rifles there, as the expensive ones are going to be the better ones anyway. Also, at the National Matches (late July) they always put some out at the CMP Store up at Camp Perry. So heck, go shoot the Presidents 100 and some of the other rifle shoots, and go grab a Garand.
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Posted: 4/21/2022 11:07:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oil them when you get them. I used to always oil my rack grade with RLO. It just makes them look better. I just wasn’t sure because I saw Some Expert ones on gunbroker that looked like they had a poly finish, and that’s not the look I’m going for |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 11:28:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to always oil my rack grade with RLO. It just makes them look better. I just wasn’t sure because I saw Some Expert ones on gunbroker that looked like they had a poly finish, and that’s not the look I’m going for Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oil them when you get them. I used to always oil my rack grade with RLO. It just makes them look better. I just wasn’t sure because I saw Some Expert ones on gunbroker that looked like they had a poly finish, and that’s not the look I’m going for IMO what your seeing on GB are stocks that have been treated somehow. The 2 I've gotten were both dry. I plan on using BLO and giving the newest one 4-5 coats over the next few days. I'll use a green pad to take the shine off if needed. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 11:33:35 AM EDT
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Dunno if the CMP Advanced Maintenance Classes are still going, but that is a really good way to get a Garand that you built with your own hands. Yes, you will pay a couple thou, but you will also come away knowing everything about how the rifle works, and why it sometimes doesn't. The name "Advanced Maintenance" is somewhat misleading, because you're actually building a rifle from a bare receiver and a pile of parts that all have to be fitted.
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Posted: 4/21/2022 12:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dunno if the CMP Advanced Maintenance Classes are still going, but that is a really good way to get a Garand that you built with your own hands. Yes, you will pay a couple thou, but you will also come away knowing everything about how the rifle works, and why it sometimes doesn't. The name "Advanced Maintenance" is somewhat misleading, because you're actually building a rifle from a bare receiver and a pile of parts that all have to be fitted. I'd love to go take one of those classes... Maybe someday |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 1:34:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd love to go take one of those classes... Maybe someday I know a guy who took one he lives out in Long Island and he’s a master with fixing them now |
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Posted: 5/4/2022 9:38:36 AM EDT
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CMP just released rack grades, for the price, it’s worth a gamble, as you can always resell if the rifle isn’t for you. That being said, it’s fun restoring them, even a rack grade should be on target….maybe not MOA, but it will print.
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Posted: 5/6/2022 11:20:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CMP just released rack grades, for the price, it’s worth a gamble, as you can always resell if the rifle isn’t for you. That being said, it’s fun restoring them, even a rack grade should be on target….maybe not MOA, but it will print. What is the best form of payment? Credit card or postal money order. Or do they take forever to ship eitherway |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 10:04:34 PM EDT
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If you pay using a CC, they don't charge it until it is ready to ship. It makes no difference how you pay, it takes as long as it takes to get to you in the order your documents are received. If you take them up on an upgrade and paid with check or whatever, you have to pay them the difference before they ship.
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Posted: 5/6/2022 10:14:20 PM EDT
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I prefer credit card, that way you have a idea when its coming when you see the charge on your account
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