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Posted: 3/15/2020 5:59:34 PM EDT
Shotguns, scatter guns, boom sticks... I am hooked on them.
I am about to embark on my first dive into the NFA pool, I wanted to document the process and build here. I am a noob to the Form 1 process. I am a hobbiest, but I can't leave anything alone, this is sure to be awesome... either I'll pull it off or go down in a blaze of glory! I am going to attempt to do this on my own with no help outside of having a 'smith thread the barrel for a choke when I am done and laser engraving needed to comply with the law. Concept: I considered the usual suspects with the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500/590-A1 models but have landed on a different concept all together. I am going to chop down a Benelli Supernova with a comfort tech stock. My first gun I ever bought was a Benelli Nova bird gun about 18 years ago. I have over 10,000 rounds on that gun and I haven't had one single issue... zip, nada, none. I have a Supernova Tactical and a M1S90 all have run 100% and Benelli has won my trust. I really want to do this project with a M2 Field version but I thought I'd chop a $300 gun for my first try instead of a $1,000 gun but @FredMan AMAZING M2 SBS! totally inspired me to try my hand at this. One day I will copy his concept in a 12ga. Here is a quick photoshop rendering I did of what I plan on doing. The Plan: Cut the barrel down to the vent rib in front of the barrel lug. Thread for Benelli Chokes Reuse the front bead sight (Maybe an XS big dot, love it on my 870) I may or may not cut 1" out of the stock but need to get one in hand to figure out if it is possible. Stipple the stock like a Glock TiN coat the bolt Next Up: Sell a few toys to be able to fund the project. Start tracking down a used SuperNova |
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Sounds like a plan.
Why don't you cut down the supernova that you have? It seems this may replace that gun in your collection anyways, right? |
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And if my sister calls me crying you can bet I appear pretty quickly, usually in a little cloud of smoke and brimstone, or maybe that smell is cod? ~Aimless
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Only flaw in your plan is threading for Benelli chokes. RAS can thread for chokes but they’ll be TruChoke.
My understanding is that Benelli choke threading tooling is prohibitively expensive and essentially unobtainable. But, this thread is incomplete without M2 SBS porn... M2 SBS +1 by FredMan, on Flickr M2 SBS With Sling by FredMan, on Flickr ETA don’t forget about a mag tube extension. Makes it mo betta. |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Yeah FredMan you're my inspiration, but I gotta' cut up a SuperNova before chopping a M2. I'll be doing the work myself and need a proof of concept. I'll flat copy you one day that M2 is one of the best looking boom sticks I have ever seen.
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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That gun has shot (or shot at) a lot of ducks but it will clean up just fine.
Measure the outside diameter of the barrel at the place you want to cut it off (micrometer or caliper to 3 decimals places) and I'll tell you about which type of choke tubes you might get it threaded for, I know a guy. |
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Steve Rose
"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks" Thomas Jefferson - 1785 |
I highly suggest getting a Supernova to SBS. That gives you the ability to change stocks. You can do the collapsible stock or comfortech one if you want.
With NFA stuff, think of it as a long term keeper. I don't even remember what I paid for my NFA stuff as its been so long. Its not worth selling, so I will cut my successors in half length wise and make a display if/when I move to a non-NFA state. I'm from Hawaii and may or may not move there full time. But I will live there part of the year when I retire. |
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Originally Posted By GunCat: That gun has shot (or shot at) a lot of ducks but it will clean up just fine. Measure the outside diameter of the barrel at the place you want to cut it off (micrometer or caliper to 3 decimals places) and I'll tell you about which type of choke tubes you might get it threaded for, I know a guy. View Quote She cleaned up great. My son and I took it out yesterday in 30* sunshine and it gobbled up everything, even the mixed box of junk rounds everyone give me when they clean out grandpas garage. I’m stoked that it ran so well. It’s smooth as glass after cleaning a little work on the action bars and fresh lube in the right spots. Time to file the forms. Trying to decide it I put a cheap red dot on top with a simple GG&G mount? |
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Originally Posted By ihon: I highly suggest getting a Supernova to SBS. That gives you the ability to change stocks. You can do the collapsible stock or comfortech one if you want. With NFA stuff, think of it as a long term keeper. I don't even remember what I paid for my NFA stuff as its been so long. Its not worth selling, so I will cut my successors in half length wise and make a display if/when I move to a non-NFA state. I'm from Hawaii and may or may not move there full time. But I will live there part of the year when I retire. View Quote I totally see your logic here but I found the cheapie first. This will be a truck gun and range toy. I wanted the Supernova and may still keep looking but I’m a cheap son of a gun… By the time I bought the gun at $200, add $200 stamp, doing my own chop and rattle can paint, I’m likely just in it the price of machine work for choke and the cost of a buddy turning me a custom tube for a Nordic component nut for a plus one (really to bring the mag tube flush). I should have a reliable simple SBS broomstick for $600 ish. I can’t find a Supernova for under $500 to my door used lately. I think people really hold onto them. I found my Supernova for $250 but it has the old school cool desert camo and I don’t want to cut it up as it has the ghost ring sights. |
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Originally Posted By Rezarf2: This is the best I can do with microsoft paint for a mock up... I'd like to get a Nordic components +1 magazine cap and magazine tube. I'll likely need to shorten it down to bring the mag tube flush. The Benelli end cap will not be reused on this build. I plan on shortening the stock by a full inch to drop the LOP to about 13" and I have a Limb Saver grind to fit on order. Not sure if I'll drop the coin on a RMR and Sync mount but I am still undecided. Time will tell if I like the finished product enough to put the coin into this one. I am thinking a snow camo theme for when the coyotes get too close. A little before and after "rendering" man I miss photoshop... but you get the idea. https://i.imgur.com/0V47Gh6.jpg View Quote About missing PS: try GIMP. It has an amazing amount of features and although it's not PS by a long shot it's night and day better than MS Paint. Looks like a fun build plan overall! I love the idea for snow camo - but I think all Montanans are naturally biased towards it. |
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I'm just saying, but a Supernova with factory collapsible stock ($250) would look amazing. In fact, so much so, I think you have inspired me to have my Supernova chopped.
I have the 18.5" rifle sighted version that came with a comfort stock. I bought a factory 3 shot mag extension and collapsible stock ($350 for both from RatWorx). I might just have it chopped when I do my Remington 870 Field Master SBS. I have a bunch of SBR, but no SBS. My Shockwave doesn't quite count, although I have always loved the 870 stakeout guns from the 1980 and really should trade my Mossberg for a Remington. I keep telling myself that my IWI Tavor TS-12 bullpup is compact enough, but I know I'll eventually get a SBS set up. I may just decide to get 2x. |
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Nice little project. Subscribed.
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Yes, this is a great read. Nice work OP. subscribed as well.
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Great work so far!!
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Great work so far
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Originally Posted By Rezarf2: Before expoxying the plug into place I wanted to add a quick disconnect to the stock. I prefer a QD mounted rearward and above the centerline of the stock so the gun hangs like an AR15. I bought a Noveske QD because I am a fan boy. Seriously, they make good junk, I love their products. This QD had a few features that make it worth the $20 price tag. First, I love the yellow thread locker preinstalled, I dig the flush surface which gives you a clean finish and a little wiggle room if your drill wanders, and lastly, I dig that the square nut on the inside has "teeth" in each corner to bite into the stock. https://i.imgur.com/wRLIe5A.jpg Next up, pick your spot and start with a small hole and step it up to a 1/2" in the end. I think I did 1/8" increments and didn't have any chip out. https://i.imgur.com/avSrKgV.jpg?1 Nice and flush when it is installed. https://i.imgur.com/GcuWbyi.jpg Now we have to notch the plug so we can slide it in without hitting the new QD nut on the inside of the stock. https://i.imgur.com/NV21Iex.jpg Now is the time to check that your notch won't interfere with your mounting screw locations. I traced and marked the spot I thought I needed to clear the QD nut and everything was good. The base is clear to not interfere with the mounting screws of the Limbsaver. https://i.imgur.com/EQrs3NQ.jpg Back to the bandsaw and a little clean up with a chisel and we had ourselves a notch. https://i.imgur.com/dcyLN7p.jpg Before mixing up the epoxy, I decided to add divots around the perimeter of the plug to give the epoxy something to mechanically hold onto. https://i.imgur.com/ApHi3dN.jpg I scuffed up the inside of the stock with some 36 grit sandpaper to give the epoxy something to bite into. https://i.imgur.com/6yLioUr.jpg View Quote Those Noveske QD sockets are da bomb. Had RAS install one on the end of the custom Nordic mag tube he cut down for me. M2 +1 Muzzle Front by FredMan, on Flickr M2 +1 Muzzle Sling Detail by FredMan, on Flickr M2 SBS by FredMan, on Flickr Took a turkey with it last Saturday. Turkey SBS 2024-04-13 by FredMan, on Flickr |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Love it. Gobble Gobble
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