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Posted: 8/14/2022 10:33:49 PM EDT
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You can do a a nicely setup bump helmet and pvs14 for 4k. That leaves you with 3k for a thermal scope. I think any of the hogsters or similar can be had in that range and do good work as a hand scanner as well. There are similar models from other companies.
Don't cheap out on your helmet setup. If you're going to use this a lot having your head mount I2 as comfortable as possible is key. Get that so it's second nature and then you can use your processing power for everything else you have to deal with. |
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Posted: 8/14/2022 10:50:12 PM EDT
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We’ve always preached that night vision in conjunction with thermal is going to be the best all around set up. Especially for
hunting. With your budget, I would look at a GEN 2+ or XLSH white phos PVS14 and a Bering Optics thermal weapon site. Use the PVS14 to navigate terrain by foot or drive around in the dark and use the thermal to engage targets out to 300+ yards. The Bering Optics Hogsters and Yoters are great thermals that won’t break the bank. Let me know if you have any questions. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:24:29 AM EDT
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If going with a single PVS14 setup, how difficult would it be to get a similarly spec'd PVS14 at some point in the future to make a dual tube setup?
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:40:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If going with a single PVS14 setup, how difficult would it be to get a similarly spec'd PVS14 at some point in the future to make a dual tube setup? Not hard to find a close match, especially right now with tubes flowing well from all the manufacturers. Just keep your data sheet and have it handy when you order the 2nd one. We often set aside two 14s that are close after they are built, because quite regularly call up looking for two close matches. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:45:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If going with a single PVS14 setup, how difficult would it be to get a similarly spec'd PVS14 at some point in the future to make a dual tube setup? Since we build all our TNV units in-house, we do this for customers routinely. Feel free to PM, be glad to talk specifics. Also Tom from our sister company gave you some great choices as well about the thetmal aspects. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 12:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If going with a single PVS14 setup, how difficult would it be to get a similarly spec'd PVS14 at some point in the future to make a dual tube setup? If you're considering dual 14s for a dual tube set up I would strongly suggest against it due to the weight. IMHO you'd be better off dropping your 14s tube into a true bino rig, finding a matching tube, then either keep the 14s body for a build later on or selling it to offset the cost of upgrading to a bino. Also a TWS would be a great addition and fit in your budget. There are some budget options out there such as the AGM as well as Bearing Optics. Another option would be a handheld thermal scanner, buying a D2 for IR illumination and IR laser aiming out to 500 plus meters. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 4:21:20 PM EDT
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Tom was spot on. I2 (traditional night vision) has many strengths as does thermal. It really comes down to each specific use-case. Talk to a dealer like TNVC/Night Goggles who works with both technologies. I2 reigns for any type of navigation and PID while thermal reigns for detection. In speaking with a knowledgeable company, they can help narrow down the needs and brands/models. The best bang for your buck in the thermal game tends to be Bering Optics at the moment. They are assembled and serviced in the US with a 4-year, fully transferrable warranty. They have several models that are compact that can be used as a scope and/or a scanner. Keep in mind, Bering uses super high compression in their videos to keep them very small and manageable. The view through the eyepiece is so much better. If you have some time, watch a summary of my year using a Bering Optics Phenom and Super Yoter 50 last year.
https://youtu.be/ywLKYrcZ1d0 |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:50:47 PM EDT
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I've been planning to get something along the lines of the Hogster from Bering and the Stimulus is really tempting at that price but the resolution and refresh rate is close to being a deal breaker. I don't have any need for video recording or output and I really wish there was a higher resolution and frame rate version of it. Prior I had been looking at the AGM Rattler but everyone seems to recommend the BO thermals over it.
Obviously like most people I'd love to have a set of binos but it appears the days of sub $6K binos are long gone. It seems like they'd certainly make maneuvering in the dark easier than doing it with one blind eye, but having no experience with any NV I'm just guessing at it. I'm a big believer that some is better than none for most things in life, and that extends to the ability to conquer the night. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:48:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously like most people I'd love to have a set of binos but it appears the days of sub $6K binos are long gone. RNVGs can be had for under $6k. Especially with Labor Day sales coming up in a few weeks. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 10:02:32 AM EDT
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What style of hunting?
Driving in vehicle checking land, or utv, walking in open areas, walking in thick brush. Sitting watching a baited area. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 10:30:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're considering dual 14s for a dual tube set up I would strongly suggest against it due to the weight. IMHO you'd be better off dropping your 14s tube into a true bino rig, finding a matching tube, then either keep the 14s body for a build later on or selling it to offset the cost of upgrading to a bino. Some of the lightweight bridges bring the weight pretty close to sentinels. I think theres only a couple oz difference with mine. I'll say it's a tad heavier but not terrible. Depends what you're doing though. Few hours with them down is fine but all night would cause a sore neck. If I only had 7k and wasn't hunting I'd get two GP 14s with an articulating bridge over one white phos. Since he's hunting I'd recommend thermal and a 14. Not sure about getting all that under budget though. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 11:06:28 AM EDT
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After talking with a few people I decided to go with the PVS14 from JRH and I'm leaning towards the Super Yoter 25mm for the 640 resolution and viewing angle.
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Posted: 8/23/2022 11:24:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After talking with a few people I decided to go with the PVS14 from JRH and I'm leaning towards the Super Yoter 25mm for the 640 resolution and viewing angle. Nice, that'll be a solid setup for hunting. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 2:55:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After talking with a few people I decided to go with the PVS14 from JRH and I'm leaning towards the Super Yoter 25mm for the 640 resolution and viewing angle. Ordered today, shipped today. Appreciate your business, thanks again! |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 7:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered today, shipped today. Appreciate your business, thanks again! Arrived today with more accessories than I expected, thank you very much. I'm excited for it to get dark so I can experience more than just the inside of a closet. I. Still waiting for my helmet so I'm really happy it came with a skull crusher so I can at least enjoy the NV in the mean time and figure out what eye I prefer to use it with. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 7:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arrived today with more accessories than I expected, thank you very much. I'm excited for it to get dark so I can experience more than just the inside of a closet. I. Still waiting for my helmet so I'm really happy it came with a skull crusher so I can at least enjoy the NV in the mean time and figure out what eye I prefer to use it with. I see no photos. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 9:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see no photos. What do you want photos of? |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 7:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arrived today with more accessories than I expected, thank you very much. I'm excited for it to get dark so I can experience more than just the inside of a closet. I. Still waiting for my helmet so I'm really happy it came with a skull crusher so I can at least enjoy the NV in the mean time and figure out what eye I prefer to use it with. Appreciate your business. If you have any questions just let me know. |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 1:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you want photos of? You have to show off your new equipment. What’s the tube look like? |
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