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Brought mine home today! $911.60 in cart here. Not the LE model, so you get the mobile choke system. I already added the pro lifter. Attached File |
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FEDEX delivered mine to my LGS yesterday. Headed to go get it after work. I still haven’t decided on optic. I don’t have much expierence with red dots. I’ll probably wait until next month to fully trick it out as I’m trying to buy a few more guns before the election. |
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Originally Posted By norco: Brought mine home today! $911.60 in cart here. Not the LE model, so you get the mobile choke system. I already added the pro lifter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88436/IMG_1912_jpeg-3345895.JPG Originally Posted By norco: Brought mine home today! $911.60 in cart here. Not the LE model, so you get the mobile choke system. I already added the pro lifter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88436/IMG_1912_jpeg-3345895.JPG Originally Posted By Teamer: FEDEX delivered mine to my LGS yesterday. Headed to go get it after work. I still haven’t decided on optic. I don’t have much expierence with red dots. I’ll probably wait until next month to fully trick it out as I’m trying to buy a few more guns before the election. 
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5 rounds of LE13300 at 25 yards. Shotgun is zeroed with LEB127LRS slugs, also at 25 yards. Frankly, LE13200 looks basically the same as this across 5 rounds, aside from the additional 5 holes. Attached File Seems acceptable to me. Not quite as tight as I’d have hoped for, but frankly it’s probably better this way at 25. |
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Originally Posted By evnash: Quick review of the new midway saddles  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4AhKqScD10So they completely copied Esstacs design and had them made in Chyna so they could sell them for less. That is cheesy as shit. No thanks, I’ll keep buying Esstacs. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By evnash: Quick review of the new midway saddles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4AhKqScD10Good video. I bought a few before they went on sale. Wasn’t real impressed with how “stretchy” the elastic was. And I found the 3M tape side doesn’t stick as well as the Esstac. |
| So I got a few rounds through mine last Sunday. Overall I was impressed. This is replacing my VersMax Tactical as my 3-gun/HD shotgun. Overal I was impressed by the fit and finish. The gun ate my favorite target loads without a hiccup. My old eyes liked the ghost ring sights. The only downside was the recoil was a bit more stout than the VersaMax, but I expected that to be the case due to the differences in operating system, |
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Burning through this thread while I wait to pick up mine Attached File |
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Originally Posted By sixgunsblazing: Burning through this thread while I wait to pick up mine https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/20267/IMG_4701_jpeg-3353782.JPG That's the model I got. Wasn't sure about the color(s) at first. I like it the more I see it now lol. |
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Originally Posted By evnash: Quick review of the new midway saddles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4AhKqScD10Folks, I've said this a million times. I see every type of velcro shell card you can imagine on a regular basis. I just helped Tom Givens present shotgun instructor this weekend. Browncoat Tactical, Esstac, and other shell cards were there. Every single one of them failed miserably. If halfway through day two you're doing scored timed drills for a coin and you go to perform a reload and your shells aren't there because they've left the chat and hit the ground, you'll learn the hard way why the guys presenting the class have Vang Comp cards on their guns. When your Esstacs bow up in the middle and won't stay flat on the receiver of the shotgun and eventually yeet themselves off the gun mid string of fire while you're trying to shoot your qualification to pass the class, you'll learn the hard way why the guys presenting the class have Vang Comp cards on their guns like this poor dude did:  NOTHING ON THE MARKET WORKS AS WELL AS THE VANG COMP/WILDERNESS TACTICAL SHELL CARDS. They are easier to load than the rest of the options on the market, but they actually hold on to the shell because the elastic they use in the loops is at least 3x as thick as the elastic you are going to see in any other shell card. This is why they last a long time, why they are so much easier to load, and why they are so much faster to use. You don't want the widest bit of elastic you can get because that just makes it harder for you to get a hold on the shells. |
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777: Folks, I've said this a million times. I see every type of velcro shell card you can imagine on a regular basis. I just helped Tom Givens present shotgun instructor this weekend. Browncoat Tactical, Esstac, and other shell cards were there. Every single one of them failed miserably. If halfway through day two you're doing scored timed drills for a coin and you go to perform a reload and your shells aren't there because they've left the chat and hit the ground, you'll learn the hard way why the guys presenting the class have Vang Comp cards on their guns. When your Esstacs bow up in the middle and won't stay flat on the receiver of the shotgun and eventually yeet themselves off the gun mid string of fire while you're trying to shoot your qualification to pass the class, you'll learn the hard way why the guys presenting the class have Vang Comp cards on their guns like this poor dude did: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/37749/esstacno-3354857.jpg NOTHING ON THE MARKET WORKS AS WELL AS THE VANG COMP/WILDERNESS TACTICAL SHELL CARDS. They are easier to load than the rest of the options on the market, but they actually hold on to the shell because the elastic they use in the loops is at least 3x as thick as the elastic you are going to see in any other shell card. This is why they last a long time, why they are so much easier to load, and why they are so much faster to use. You don't want the widest bit of elastic you can get because that just makes it harder for you to get a hold on the shells. Thank you. Advise taken. Need to order some. |
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So after going back and forth on which one to get, and a buddy who has both the a300 UP and the 1301 Mod2 left me run a few hundred rounds thru his guns, I finally joined the club last week… I keep hearing that the 1301 is a step up from the a300, and on paper I agree. But after having the chance to run almost a case of 00 thru each I think I’d argue it’s more of a lateral step than a forward one. That said, I have a couple questions for those who have had their a300 longer… 1) I’ve noticed my trigger pin is walking a bit. Not enough that it’s in danger of being an issue, but it is moving. Anyone else have this issue and is there a fix for it? 2) I have a Holosun 507 sitting around that I think I’m gonna put on it the gun. I’d like to replace the optic rail with a dedicated plate to get it as low as possible. I’ve noticed there are multiple companies now offering such plates. Is there a go to or a specific one that people recommend over others? |
| Saw a 1301 in gray at a LGS last week, price was $1799 before tax. I checked half a dozen other LGS and they're all the same. makes me wish I bought one when they were cheaper. I could probably get the A300 for just over $1000. I can afford the 1301 but I don't know if it merits a $700 difference. I could but a lot of 12 gauge with $700. |
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Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Well I got mine all set up, 1301 pro lifter, Holosun 507K, Armadyne optic plate, GG&G metal extension tube with clamp, streamlight, Wolf extended spring, and a bunch of Esstac Velcro shell holders. It shoots great, I’ve been buying Federal Flight control for a few years when it was cheap. Wish I woulda bought more lol -Clint |
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I had my new A300UP out to the range yesterday for the first time. I started with about 100 trap loads, then about 25 rounds of 00 buck. The recoil was noticeable with the 00. Then I shot 10 of the Bernakke slugs and holy crap the recoil was ridiculous. I came home and ordered a Limbsaver lol. The gun functioned 100%. I took it apart and cleaned it and I had a hard time putting it back together. There definitely is a sequence that must be followed for reassembly. I wanted the 1301 but settled for the 300 but it seems like a good value. |
I took mine out yesterday along with another recent purchase, I split 100 rounds of trap loads between them. It kicked harder than I would expect and the gas system ran surprisingly dirty. I’ve got some eBay snap caps on the way to practice with the pro lifter. Overall I like it, I’m afraid if I tried a 1301 I’d buy one of those too.  Attached File |
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Originally Posted By GerryOwen: So after going back and forth on which one to get, and a buddy who has both the a300 UP and the 1301 Mod2 left me run a few hundred rounds thru his guns, I finally joined the club last week I keep hearing that the 1301 is a step up from the a300, and on paper I agree. But after having the chance to run almost a case of 00 thru each I think I'd argue it's more of a lateral step than a forward one. That said, I have a couple questions for those who have had their a300 longer 1) I've noticed my trigger pin is walking a bit. Not enough that it's in danger of being an issue, but it is moving. Anyone else have this issue and is there a fix for it? 2) I have a Holosun 507 sitting around that I think I'm gonna put on it the gun. I'd like to replace the optic rail with a dedicated plate to get it as low as possible. I've noticed there are multiple companies now offering such plates. Is there a go to or a specific one that people recommend over others? The trigger pin is retained by a small circular clip on the right side that is part of the lifter assembly. The clip can easily be removed and hand pinched to obtain a better grip on the retaining pin. Go ahead and order the Pro Shell Lifter since removing the clip is part of swapping the original A300 lifter for the better Pro lifter. Easy stuff. Step by step instructions...  Beretta 1301/A400/A300 lifter assemble disassemble tutorial |
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Originally Posted By Turnkey: Saw a 1301 in gray at a LGS last week, price was $1799 before tax. I checked half a dozen other LGS and they're all the same. makes me wish I bought one when they were cheaper. I could probably get the A300 for just over $1000. I can afford the 1301 but I don't know if it merits a $700 difference. I could but a lot of 12 gauge with $700. Whichever you decide to buy, buy it online and save a lot of money. |
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Originally Posted By awd_xtc: Whichever you decide to buy, buy it online and save a lot of money. Originally Posted By awd_xtc: Originally Posted By Turnkey: Saw a 1301 in gray at a LGS last week, price was $1799 before tax. I checked half a dozen other LGS and they're all the same. makes me wish I bought one when they were cheaper. I could probably get the A300 for just over $1000. I can afford the 1301 but I don't know if it merits a $700 difference. I could but a lot of 12 gauge with $700. Whichever you decide to buy, buy it online and save a lot of money. IMO the most obvious advantage for the 1301 is you can swap the stock/handguard for a Magpul if you need to really tweak the LOP or you gotta have the Gucci furniture. That, and Aridas makes some sweet stuff for the 1301 (charging handle/bolt release lever). Their bolt release lever fits the A300UP, but NOT their charging handle. GGG et al are available for A300UP though. |
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Originally Posted By evnash: New optic mounting option Strike mount https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222048/IMG_0163_jpeg-3359575.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222048/IMG_0164_jpeg-3359576.JPG SI makes some questionable stuff. At that price point I’d pass. |
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Originally Posted By Turnkey: Saw a 1301 in gray at a LGS last week, price was $1799 before tax. I checked half a dozen other LGS and they're all the same. makes me wish I bought one when they were cheaper. I could probably get the A300 for just over $1000. I can afford the 1301 but I don't know if it merits a $700 difference. I could but a lot of 12 gauge with $700. Primary arms .It's an even better deal when they have the 12% off sales. |
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Originally Posted By AK-12: Yeah and this looks like it either has user setup recoil lugs or no recoil lugs. If I didn't get a CROM I'd get the Scalarworks mount. Originally Posted By AK-12: Originally Posted By MK318: SI makes some questionable stuff. At that price point I’d pass. Yeah and this looks like it either has user setup recoil lugs or no recoil lugs. If I didn't get a CROM I'd get the Scalarworks mount. It looks like it comes with lugs that the user positions based on their optic choice. The problem I see with that is since the lugs aren’t fixed to the mount, they have to have some play in them in order to be removable/replaceable so there is still going to be some sheer forces exerted on screws holding the optic in place. With the recoil of a shotgun being what it is, I’d imagine any serious heavy use is eventually going to cause those screws to fail. I’m sure it will be fine for the causal user that might only fire 500 or so shells through their guns lifetime. That really probably covers 80% plus of users though. At $80 on sale or $90 when it is off sale, there are way better and proven options. The Reptila mounts are only about $20 more. The GG&G mount, despite the use of some softer screws being used, is still a decent choice and is half the price of this mount. The Farrow Tech mount is roughly the same price as this SI mount and I know of a lot of people using the Farrow mount and running their guns really hard. The Farrow Tech mount is solid. All that said, another option is still welcome. The more after market support the better. Something else I just thought about. SI makes a handguard for the M4, I wonder if they are planning on something for the A300/1301. That would be intresting to see. They also offer a mag clamp for the A300/1301 too. |
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Originally Posted By dump1567: The only problem is the picture they show doesn’t look like it has the step down on the mag tube cover to prevent your clamp from moving. So maybe it is the latest model with an old stock photo? I didn’t want to risk it and bought mine locally that I could inspect. Yeah, I paid a little more. Originally Posted By dump1567: Originally Posted By Blain: They are on sale for $899 all the time at berelli, and with free shipping. The only problem is the picture they show doesn’t look like it has the step down on the mag tube cover to prevent your clamp from moving. So maybe it is the latest model with an old stock photo? I didn’t want to risk it and bought mine locally that I could inspect. Yeah, I paid a little more. Can anyone confirm this? Im itching to pull the trigger at that price, but I appreciate the warning |
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Originally Posted By Turnkey: Saw a 1301 in gray at a LGS last week, price was $1799 before tax. I checked half a dozen other LGS and they're all the same. makes me wish I bought one when they were cheaper. I could probably get the A300 for just over $1000. I can afford the 1301 but I don't know if it merits a $700 difference. I could but a lot of 12 gauge with $700. I know the 1301 is considered the current top dog in the shotgun world, and it probably is… But honestly, after getting to run about a case of ammo thru my buddies 1301 and comparing it to my a300 UP, i consider it more of a lateral step than a true step up. Especially with the a300’s superior loading port. That said I’m sure future generations of the 1300 will get the same loading port, and at that point I think any debate about the 1300 being superior will be laid to rest. |
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Originally Posted By GerryOwen: I know the 1301 is considered the current top dog in the shotgun world, and it probably is… But honestly, after getting to run about a case of ammo thru my buddies 1301 and comparing it to my a300 UP, i consider it more of a lateral step than a true step up. Especially with the a300’s superior loading port. That said I’m sure future generations of the 1300 will get the same loading port, and at that point I think any debate about the 1300 being superior will be laid to rest. Originally Posted By GerryOwen: Originally Posted By Turnkey: Saw a 1301 in gray at a LGS last week, price was $1799 before tax. I checked half a dozen other LGS and they're all the same. makes me wish I bought one when they were cheaper. I could probably get the A300 for just over $1000. I can afford the 1301 but I don't know if it merits a $700 difference. I could but a lot of 12 gauge with $700. I know the 1301 is considered the current top dog in the shotgun world, and it probably is… But honestly, after getting to run about a case of ammo thru my buddies 1301 and comparing it to my a300 UP, i consider it more of a lateral step than a true step up. Especially with the a300’s superior loading port. That said I’m sure future generations of the 1300 will get the same loading port, and at that point I think any debate about the 1300 being superior will be laid to rest. I think you are close. Where the 1301 edges the A300 is when it is cold and wet and dirty, the rotating bolt and self adjusting gas system goes a long way to ensuring reliability. Those situations though are few and far in between so for 98% of users, the A300 is on par with the 1301. The lack of an enlarged loading port on the 1301 Tactical is a miss that hopefully Beretta sorts out soon. |
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Originally Posted By MK318: I think you are close. Where the 1301 edges the A300 is when it is cold and wet and dirty, the rotating bolt and self adjusting gas system goes a long way to ensuring reliability. Those situations though are few and far in between so for 98% of users, the A300 is on par with the 1301. The lack of an enlarged loading port on the 1301 Tactical is a miss that hopefully Beretta sorts out soon. Agreed 110%! That is the exact reason I went with the A300 over the 1301…
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Originally Posted By GerryOwen: I know the 1301 is considered the current top dog in the shotgun world, and it probably is… But honestly, after getting to run about a case of ammo thru my buddies 1301 and comparing it to my a300 UP, i consider it more of a lateral step than a true step up. Especially with the a300’s superior loading port. That said I’m sure future generations of the 1300 will get the same loading port, and at that point I think any debate about the 1300 being superior will be laid to rest.  The Ultimate Beretta 1301 vs. A300 Patrol Review |
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Originally Posted By Mick214: Agreed 110%! That is the exact reason I went with the A300 over the 1301… Originally Posted By Mick214: Originally Posted By MK318: I think you are close. Where the 1301 edges the A300 is when it is cold and wet and dirty, the rotating bolt and self adjusting gas system goes a long way to ensuring reliability. Those situations though are few and far in between so for 98% of users, the A300 is on par with the 1301. The lack of an enlarged loading port on the 1301 Tactical is a miss that hopefully Beretta sorts out soon. Agreed 110%! That is the exact reason I went with the A300 over the 1301… Same mostly. Loading port and I prefer the A300 sights, so I got the A300. I’ve hunted in all kinds of weather and temperatures with a pump or cheap tri star auto loader and not had failures induced by the environment. Is the 1301 system “better”, for me probably not, but I’ve also not fired the 1301. |
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Originally Posted By Gorby: Not it’s fine. Bereli’s is GTG. Just check the model number (choke vs no choke). Thats good to hear, thank you. It reads as model# J32CT11LE , so is the LE model just smoothbore then? Shouldnt be a problem unless there is something that I am missing |
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Originally Posted By Buckeye67: I've been thinking about the Urbino stock for my A300. I have an Aimpoint T1 mounted on an Aridus CROM. Can anyone with a similar setup advise whether I'd need to riser or not? Thanks! I just picked up a used one with riser on the EE. I was planning on buying new without a riser, but I’m glad I did buy it. After a quick 50 rds on it I am a fan. We will see after a few hundred. |
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Originally Posted By virgilc1984: Alrighty thanks. Just pulled the trigger on it I swear this site saves / costs me a bunch of cash Originally Posted By virgilc1984: Originally Posted By AK-12: LE SKUs have a fixed IC choke Alrighty thanks. Just pulled the trigger on it I swear this site saves / costs me a bunch of cash Truth. |
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