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Posted: 5/3/2018 2:25:56 PM EDT
Arms unlimited has this gun for $945 is it worth the price of admission? I have some Beretta A400's and they are worth every penny that I paid for them. I can get the 1301 for a few bills more than a 930 SPX set up similar.
This is the one I am referring to. I have the Mesa stock on an 870 and its a good stock so I am not worried about that part of it. I know aftermarket support isn't near what it is for the 870/1100/590/930. I was looking for a standard model when I came across the AU listing that already has the mag extension and Mesa stock for less than the standard models I found. 
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Posted: 5/3/2018 2:54:01 PM EDT
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My only issue is that it is from Arms Unlimited. I have seen some hokey business practices reported in the various forums on here.
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Posted: 5/3/2018 2:57:39 PM EDT
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My only issue is that it is from Arms Unlimited. I have seen some hokey business practices reported in the various forums on here. |
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Posted: 5/5/2018 8:25:04 PM EDT
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Why not magazines feed? Kind of hard to get behind a slow reloading weapon when there are others out there that use Box magazines!
Why will none of the big American shotgun makers make a semi auto magazines feed shotgun???!!!! Then they have prices for semi autos that cost a lot more then one you can buy that is magazines feed! |
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Posted: 5/6/2018 7:25:18 AM EDT
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You do know that's the older 1301 that everyone was blowing out cheap after Beretta announced the new and improved version, right?
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Posted: 5/6/2018 8:02:06 AM EDT
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Yeah the Beretta 1301 is a great shotgun, I love mine. It's been totally reliable with everything I've fed it.
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Posted: 5/6/2018 8:13:34 AM EDT
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I think the big thing the 1301 has going for it over the 930 is that it actually works...
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Posted: 5/6/2018 8:17:47 AM EDT
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Why will none of the big American shotgun makers make a semi auto magazines feed shotgun???!!!! |
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Posted: 5/6/2018 6:42:26 PM EDT
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Arms unlimited has this gun for $945 is it worth the price of admission? I have some Beretta A400's and they are worth every penny that I paid for them. I can get the 1301 for a few bills more than a 930 SPX set up similar. This is the one I am referring to. I have the Mesa stock on an 870 and its a good stock so I am not worried about that part of it. I know aftermarket support isn't near what it is for the 870/1100/590/930. I was looking for a standard model when I came across the AU listing that already has the mag extension and Mesa stock for less than the standard models I found. http://www.beretta.com/assets/0/15/DimGalleryLarge/1301tacticalpistolgriple_zoom001.png |
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Posted: 5/6/2018 9:18:42 PM EDT
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You do know that's the older 1301 that everyone was blowing out cheap after Beretta announced the new and improved version, right? |
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Posted: 5/6/2018 9:21:13 PM EDT
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Why not magazines feed? Kind of hard to get behind a slow reloading weapon when there are others out there that use Box magazines! Why will none of the big American shotgun makers make a semi auto magazines feed shotgun???!!!! Then they have prices for semi autos that cost a lot more then one you can buy that is magazines feed! #2: There's a reason why very few manufacturers make magazine-fed shotguns #3: There's a reason why very few military and police forces use magazine-fed shotguns, and it's the same reason as #2. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 9:14:48 AM EDT
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Why not magazines feed? Kind of hard to get behind a slow reloading weapon when there are others out there that use Box magazines! Why will none of the big American shotgun makers make a semi auto magazines feed shotgun???!!!! Then they have prices for semi autos that cost a lot more then one you can buy that is magazines feed! All of these uses come under the term wingshooting. When wingshooting you want a balanced gun that comes to the shoulder easily and swings naturally and smoothly as you acquire the target and shoot it. Box fed magazine shotguns are none of these. Turning shotguns into tactical carbines is a fairly recent event. Yes shotguns were used in war and by the police but in years past the general public used shotguns for their primary function, wingshooting. With the advent of three gun and interest in tactical firearms due to unending war and fear of civil unrest more of the general public are interested in tactical everything. But even with all that the primary function of a shotgun for most is wingshooting. And box fed mags don’t make shotguns swing and move as they should. Many people involved in three gun believe the shotgun should be eliminated because it is just a reloading contest. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 1:34:04 PM EDT
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You do know that's the older 1301 that everyone was blowing out cheap after Beretta announced the new and improved version, right? Currently trying to get hands on this model. Although I am not sure how much of it is actually hard chrome vs cerakote. 
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Posted: 5/7/2018 1:35:40 PM EDT
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Why not magazines feed? Kind of hard to get behind a slow reloading weapon when there are others out there that use Box magazines! Why will none of the big American shotgun makers make a semi auto magazines feed shotgun???!!!! Then they have prices for semi autos that cost a lot more then one you can buy that is magazines feed! The fact that Remy and Savage have started pushing a mag fed pump really baffles me. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 8:10:55 AM EDT
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The gun is good. That stock is a fucking abortion.
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:00:34 AM EDT
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The gun is good. That stock is a fucking abortion. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:26:39 AM EDT
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Seems like the extreme angle would just encourage muzzle rise. Eh? |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 11:51:32 AM EDT
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It is awkward and uncomfortable as fuck. The comb...which is adjustable from too high to Snoop Dogg shitfaced too high...sits too high forcing you to drive your cheekbone too hard against it which makes it rather unpleasant to shoot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems like the extreme angle would just encourage muzzle rise. Eh? |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 4:13:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a more standard {non pistol grip} stock available for the 1301? The standard 1301 Tactical comes with a pretty good stock with a 13" LOP. You can also remove that stock and put on the Magpul SGA for the Mossberg shotguns with the Aridus Industries adapter. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 5:39:51 PM EDT
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You hang with snoop while he's stoned and shooting?
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Posted: 5/23/2018 8:54:05 AM EDT
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To jump on the "box mag fed shotguns are stupid" bandwagon, I'll offer some insight as to why.
The problem is the ammunition. Shotgun shells are extremely fragile compared to brass cased ammunition. They are especially susceptible to deformation beyond the point of fitting in the chamber while in the magazine. Especially the top round resting under the bolt. This makes leaving them loaded questionable. Shells loaded in my Saiga 12 begin to deform pretty quick, think hours not days. Shotgun shells are also rimmed, which poses reliability issues when feeding from a box magazine. The size of the shells also comes into play. Any box magazine with a capacity significantly higher than a tube is going to be pretty damn long. Because of the size of the magazines it's easier to carry a large number of shells vs just a few loaded magazines. Once in the gun, it's more size efficient to stack those shells parallel to the barrel rather than perpendicular to it, especially in a pump action where you need somewhere for the pump to operate. Finally, with a relatively low capacity whether box or tube fed, the advantage of reload speed comes at the cost of the ability to top off a partial magazine. I say all this as an owner of both box and tube fed shotguns. As much as I love my Saiga 12 I wouldn't dream of using it defensively. |
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:05:55 PM EDT
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I have my hands on one as of last night and it is definitely worth the price of admission. I ordered the LE version with the Mesa stock then ordered a factory stock for it from eBay. I don't have the factory stock yet but will by the time I get back from CA. As it sits dollar for dollar its the better deal between (same price) the Normal 1301 and the 1301LE because the LE comes with the extension already which is the Nordic unit and is very nice.
It is a fixed choke unit and it does have the older bolt release setup. |
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Posted: 5/24/2018 8:10:08 AM EDT
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I have my hands on one as of last night and it is definitely worth the price of admission. I ordered the LE version with the Mesa stock then ordered a factory stock for it from eBay. I don't have the factory stock yet but will by the time I get back from CA. As it sits dollar for dollar its the better deal between (same price) the Normal 1301 and the 1301LE because the LE comes with the extension already which is the Nordic unit and is very nice. It is a fixed choke unit and it does have the older bolt release setup. |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 4:42:59 PM EDT
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I had a chance to take this to the range and run a case of buckshot through it today. It was worth the price of admission. I scored some S&B from somewhere for a good price and used a case of it today shooting steel. The gun is light, fast, and has very manageable recoil.
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Posted: 6/25/2018 2:15:16 PM EDT
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I had a chance to take this to the range and run a case of buckshot through it today. It was worth the price of admission. I scored some S&B from somewhere for a good price and used a case of it today shooting steel. The gun is light, fast, and has very manageable recoil. if so, did you like it? |
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Posted: 6/25/2018 8:26:37 PM EDT
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Does anybody sell the Beretta OEM magazine tube extension?
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Posted: 6/25/2018 8:40:52 PM EDT
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Does anybody sell the Beretta OEM magazine tube extension? |
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Posted: 6/25/2018 8:56:58 PM EDT
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The one Beretta puts on the guns that come with the mag tube are Nordic extensions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does anybody sell the Beretta OEM magazine tube extension? |
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Posted: 6/26/2018 7:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one Beretta puts on the guns that come with the mag tube are Nordic extensions. they have some good barrel clamp options for accessories. I'm leaning towards a new-version 1301 and just putting the extension on it and adding the stock of my choice later. |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 1:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so, you got the pistol grip LE stock with the cheekpiece? if so, did you like it? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 12:52:39 AM EDT
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An advantage of getting the LE model of the 1301 Tactical is that you don’t have to worry about 922(r). Since 922(r) is a making offense and not a possession offense, you’re off the hook if it comes already made that way from Beretta. The problem with getting a normal 1301 Tactical is that it only comes with a 5 round tube, and if you want to legally add the Nordic or other mag extension, you’ll have to come up with some 922(r) compliance parts, and there aren’t that many for the Beretta; not like there are for the Benellis.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:31:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one Beretta puts on the guns that come with the mag tube are Nordic extensions. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 9:01:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm, so do these LE models actually take 7+1 then? Most vendors seem to list 6+1, but Nordic themselves list their 1301 tactical extension as going to 7+1. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 9:56:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The stock gun will hold 5 in the magazine. The Nordic + 2 gives 2 more. (Also hi, I think we shot in the same Tigerswan course back in 2010! I was the doofus in the flight suit.) |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 10:26:40 AM EDT
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are extra barrels available for 1301 ????
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Posted: 8/3/2018 11:29:06 AM EDT
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are extra barrels available for 1301 ???? |
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Posted: 8/3/2018 1:13:46 PM EDT
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Additional question. Does the LE model come threaded for chokes, or is it fixed?
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Posted: 8/3/2018 1:43:32 PM EDT
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Additional question. Does the LE model come threaded for chokes, or is it fixed? |
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Posted: 8/3/2018 1:46:39 PM EDT
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The handguard is meh
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Posted: 8/5/2018 8:52:20 AM EDT
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Breathing life into a 3 month old post . What is the good and the bad of the stock shown in the OP ?
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Posted: 8/5/2018 9:55:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that, I was just wondering about the LE version specifically since it comes with the extension installed, yet is listed by most websites as 6+1. Different extension or mislabeling? I'm not sure. (Also hi, I think we shot in the same Tigerswan course back in 2010! I was the doofus in the flight suit.) I remember that class...thought I was going to bake alive. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 10:34:06 AM EDT
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Oh nice, if that's just mislabeled, then that makes the LE model very appealing. As long as the new model is still threaded for chokes, it might just be my next purchase.
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Posted: 8/6/2018 1:02:24 PM EDT
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Oh nice, if that's just mislabeled, then that makes the LE model very appealing. As long as the new model is still threaded for chokes, it might just be my next purchase. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 1:06:12 PM EDT
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Are you sure? I'm seeing it on Primary Arms, G&R Tactical, Buds Gun Shop, Botach and Proven Outfitters. Also one on GunBroker at the moment.
(Buds says qualified professionals only, but apparently veterans fall under that umbrella, so I'm good there.) |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 1:26:08 PM EDT
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Are you sure? I'm seeing it on Primary Arms, G&R Tactical, Buds Gun Shop, Botach and Proven Outfitters. Also one on GunBroker at the moment. (Buds says qualified professionals only, but apparently veterans fall under that umbrella, so I'm good there.) In any event, I just got one of the regular tactical models, put that same mag tube extension on it, and took it to the range Saturday. Great gun. Handles great, easy to shoot, accurate, and the recoil is much nicer than a pump. |
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Posted: 8/6/2018 1:42:06 PM EDT
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Nice! I keep vacillating between the tactical and the comp models. I'll only use it for 3 gun, but I also like to keep a relatively realistic setup. (I'm that guy who wears his old deployment plate carrier and war belt at the monthly match.) My current gun is a 590A1 with a flush +2 extension (7+1), Magpul furniture, and a barrel with a lengthened forcing cone and threaded for chokes. With an IM choke, I can knock down steel at the same distance as the guys with the longer actual 3 gun shotguns. (I still place in the top quarter at the local match too.) I know I'm limiting my potential compared to a proper 3 gun shotgun, but I have a hard time justifying something I'd never clear a house with.
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Posted: 8/6/2018 3:07:20 PM EDT
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I got mine for home defense, but would like to try my hand at 3 gun with it at some point too, just for fun. I'll be curious to hear what you end up picking, and how it works out for you.
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Posted: 8/7/2018 1:12:19 PM EDT
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Are you sure? I'm seeing it on Primary Arms, G&R Tactical, Buds Gun Shop, Botach and Proven Outfitters. Also one on GunBroker at the moment. (Buds says qualified professionals only, but apparently veterans fall under that umbrella, so I'm good there.) |
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Posted: 8/7/2018 1:15:05 PM EDT
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Wow, that IS some confusion. It would be pretty disappointing to order a new model and find it not threaded for chokes!
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Posted: 8/7/2018 4:01:36 PM EDT
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There's a lot of confusion going on. Beretta has been shipping Gen 2 receivers with Gen 1 barrels. (No cut for choke tubes) I saw two in class this weekend. |
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Posted: 8/7/2018 4:02:24 PM EDT
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Wow, that IS some confusion. It would be pretty disappointing to order a new model and find it not threaded for chokes! |
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