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Posted: 4/25/2023 10:26:26 PM EDT
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Would anybody have interest in a larger capacity Barrett magazine? I have connections to a machine shop that is gauging market interest in producing a Barrett 82A1/M107 magazine than can hold more than 10 rds; would 20, 25, or 30 rds be appealing? Thanks. |
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Do you have access to an M82/107? It's going to be HEAVY and long! You need to be sure that the mag latch will hold a mag that's going to hold extra rounds without falling out. Then add the length of 10 rounds to the bottom of the mag. More than likely it's going to monopod the rifle, right where the mag is. Why not look into something like a Beta C mag or one like the magpul D 50/60 line? |
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We welded 2 10rd mags together once as a goof around type thing. Worked great. But to fire the rifle, the bipod legs had to be extended all the way out. Made it awkward to fire. The excessive weight of the .ag may cause the mag release to flip and drop the mag. Something to consider. 20 rds made for a hefty loaded mag. 30 will be really ungainly. |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: We welded 2 10rd mags together once as a goof around type thing. Worked great. But to fire the rifle, the bipod legs had to be extended all the way out. Made it awkward to fire. The excessive weight of the .ag may cause the mag release to flip and drop the mag. Something to consider. 20 rds made for a hefty loaded mag. 30 will be really ungainly. Could it curve leftward or rightward, instead of running straight down? |
If you build it, they will come...  how many is anyone’s guess. Some for the cool factor, to say they have one, or three. Some for actually wanting more rounds in the beast😎. Belt fed, without being beltfed? I would imagine you’d have quite a few takers depending on price point. I’d be in for it, so, keep us updated
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I wouldn’t want anything that extended past the bipod. I never thought about needing more rounds but 12-15 would be ok. What’s the projected price goal? |
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Originally Posted By 808Sig: Schryver Gun Sales used to produce, I want to say 5 and 20 rd M82/M107 magazines. Anyone have photos of them? I wonder if they used one mag split for both. I was actually wondering about that the other day. Chop it to 5rd capacity and weld the extra onto a 10rd mag. |
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Originally Posted By 808Sig: Schryver Gun Sales used to produce, I want to say 5 and 20 rd M82/M107 magazines. Anyone have photos of them? Schryver bought a lot of stuff from Barrett back in the day. Barrett produced some 5 rd 82a1 mags for a time. Not a lot, but we had made some. All it took was welding on an 82a1 mag stop on the back of an M95 mag. That was the only difference. Schryver may have sourced some 20's from someone. But we never had seen or heard of 20's except for the 2 we made in the shop as a joke. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I wouldn’t want anything that extended past the bipod. I never thought about needing more rounds but 12-15 would be ok. What’s the projected price goal? Nothing set yet...just gauging interest. I appreciate all of the posts and am passing them along to the designers. |
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Originally Posted By ctfish15: Could it curve leftward or rightward, instead of running straight down? Originally Posted By ctfish15: Originally Posted By 50cal: We welded 2 10rd mags together once as a goof around type thing. Worked great. But to fire the rifle, the bipod legs had to be extended all the way out. Made it awkward to fire. The excessive weight of the .ag may cause the mag release to flip and drop the mag. Something to consider. 20 rds made for a hefty loaded mag. 30 will be really ungainly. Could it curve leftward or rightward, instead of running straight down? Flip the rifle upside down, run an offset scope mount. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I wonder if they used one mag split for both. I was actually wondering about that the other day. Chop it to 5rd capacity and weld the extra onto a 10rd mag. My memory is cloudy, but I'm almost positive he had pictures of them on his website, though I'm not sure if they actually were reliable and if any were sold. I don't recall the price, but I felt that it was too expensive for something that I would consider to be a novelty item. I'm not sure what he did about the springs. |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: All it took was welding on an 82a1 mag stop on the back of an M95 mag. That was the only difference. |
| Barrett has an outside vendor welding and meloniting the mags now. They have since around early 2002. The process for welding them is labor intensive. With all that was going on at the time and the years following, it made more sense to farm them out and powder coat them in house. |
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| The factory mag could be had at a much cheaper price point. The production price is very low. |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: The factory mag could be had at a much cheaper price point. The production price is very low. I'm aware. Which is why I plan to copy them since the time limit for an exclusive patent is well past. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: I'm aware. Which is why I plan to copy them since the time limit for an exclusive patent is well past. The box mag didn't have a patent. I tried a few years ago to have a stamping company do a copy of the mag for me. I was going to try and sell an aftermarket mag. One or 2 of the companies contacted Barrett for some reason. Chris Barrett told them Barrett had the patent on the mag even though they didn't have a patent. I had already researched it. The companies I contacted told me they weren't going to entertain the offer of doing them. I told them there was no patent. Be prepared for anyone that is remotely doing parts for a firearm company to contact Barrett. Be prepared for Barrett to say they have a patent on the mag. Forewarned is fore armed. |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: Schryver bought a lot of stuff from Barrett back in the day. Barrett produced some 5 rd 82a1 mags for a time. Not a lot, but we had made some. All it took was welding on an 82a1 mag stop on the back of an M95 mag. That was the only difference. Schryver may have sourced some 20's from someone. But we never had seen or heard of 20's except for the 2 we made in the shop as a joke. Originally Posted By 50cal: Originally Posted By 808Sig: Schryver Gun Sales used to produce, I want to say 5 and 20 rd M82/M107 magazines. Anyone have photos of them? Schryver bought a lot of stuff from Barrett back in the day. Barrett produced some 5 rd 82a1 mags for a time. Not a lot, but we had made some. All it took was welding on an 82a1 mag stop on the back of an M95 mag. That was the only difference. Schryver may have sourced some 20's from someone. But we never had seen or heard of 20's except for the 2 we made in the shop as a joke. Interesting on the 5rd 82a1 mags. Might be a dumb question, but can the M82A1 10rd mag be modified then in the opposite way to fit the M95? |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: The box mag didn't have a patent. I tried a few years ago to have a stamping company do a copy of the mag for me. I was going to try and sell an aftermarket mag. One or 2 of the companies contacted Barrett for some reason. Chris Barrett told them Barrett had the patent on the mag even though they didn't have a patent. I had already researched it. The companies I contacted told me they weren't going to entertain the offer of doing them. I told them there was no patent. Be prepared for anyone that is remotely doing parts for a firearm company to contact Barrett. Be prepared for Barrett to say they have a patent on the mag. Forewarned is fore armed. Unless I buy the company that will produce the mags, right? |
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Originally Posted By Ben: Unless I buy the company that will produce the mags, right? Originally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By 50cal: The box mag didn't have a patent. I tried a few years ago to have a stamping company do a copy of the mag for me. I was going to try and sell an aftermarket mag. One or 2 of the companies contacted Barrett for some reason. Chris Barrett told them Barrett had the patent on the mag even though they didn't have a patent. I had already researched it. The companies I contacted told me they weren't going to entertain the offer of doing them. I told them there was no patent. Be prepared for anyone that is remotely doing parts for a firearm company to contact Barrett. Be prepared for Barrett to say they have a patent on the mag. Forewarned is fore armed. Unless I buy the company that will produce the mags, right? If you own a stamping company, you could probably also produce the laser cut Flat Spot AR parts. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: Unless I buy the company that will produce the mags, right? Modern problems require modern solutions. |
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Originally Posted By Tikiman001: Interesting on the 5rd 82a1 mags. Might be a dumb question, but can the M82A1 10rd mag be modified then in the opposite way to fit the M95? The 10rd mag won't rock in because the pistol grip will be in the way. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: I'm aware. Which is why I plan to copy them since the time limit for an exclusive patent is well past. If you need to, contact me with any questions about the magazines features. There are a few places in the mag that are critical for proper function. |
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| I wish I could. Just had knee replacement surgery. For me, its been a bit of a bitch to recover from. |
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I swear I saw 12 round Barrett mags being sold in the mid-2000s. Could be wrong..? I do remember seeing one homemade cobbled together 17 round mag. It was huge and ungainly, so I had to check it out. The guy who was shooting it found and bought a handful of house fire-damaged mags at a gun show. He welded some together and eventually got a single working mag with a 17.5 round capacity. He agreed that it was stupid but brought it out for fun at shoots. It was ugly as sin but functioned. I do not know what he did for a spring, as I assume the originals were no longer good after house fire heat-treating. If patents aren't violated, I wish someone would make cheaper aftermarket mags. Probably not enough potential sales to justify production. |
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Originally Posted By prebans: I swear I saw 12 round Barrett mags being sold in the mid-2000s. Could be wrong..? I The original mags were 11 rd. The mag body was parkerized. When guns were being built for the Marine Corps, they asked that the mags be cut back to 10 rd as to keep the rifle from being rested on the bottom of the mag. The 10 rd mag let the rifle rest on the buttplate instead. |
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