We shall see.  I was one of the pre-orders.

The latest tease of their trigger looks pretty sweet.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C56DlwzrlVC/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Well, the current expectation is that they should start shipping at the end of the week. Anodizing has taken longer than they expected.

Shipping set to start tomorrow.

Mine shipped today and scheduled delivery for Monday

No notification yet, so we'll see if they send me one tomorrow or if they are going to wait till Monday.

I have my internals all removed and awaiting the new components.

Can you get a side by side comparison picture of the parts you’re removing next to what you’re installing?

was trying to a install video.  will see how it works.   The only thing of issue so far is that the trigger doesn't reset if holding the trigger back and then pull charging handle.  I now can't remember if that happened on the stock trigger or not.  Seems highly unlikely.
New trigger pull comes in at 5.25lbs.

They updated their instructions to account for possible dead trigger.  So did some adjustments based on their updated instructions and now it's working great on the reset.
Quickish uninstall/install of the trigger. Sadly missed a couple steps due to camera hard drive filling up.  

I've still yet to even receive a shipping email. This is getting ridiculous.

Holy cow I never thought they would ship!

Let me know if anyone wants to part with their stock parts.

Please bring this to KS3.

I have a Ral8k SBR and can preordered and would love to check yours out along with the Short stroke trigger.

I can definitely bring it along.

Heck yeah! I should be confirming Wednesday whether I can make it to the event or not.

In your experience, are they pretty picky on ammo or will they chew through most anything you feed it?

I like this thread and the chance that we may now have a decent, or even good trigger option available now. It really begs the question, how in the hell can a company like b&t allow the stock trigger to remain so bad, for so long. These things were on sale when I got into shooting like 18 years ago.  Why would a buyer accept that they have to drop hundreds to make it palletable.  I’d accept this if it was kel tec, but b&t?  

Not saying it so t make me consider one now but why the hell can’t they put something in the factory gun that’s comparable to a Glock 19?

I'd just avoid flat nose ammo.  Mine occasionally has issues with them.

I cut out some of my speculation from my video but im wondering if this is a European thing.  Even lots of their triggers for law enforcement are heavier than in the us models.  Probably considered a safety thing.

Got my tracking number today.

While I'm personally going to upgrade the trigger, I can understand why B&T keeps it as close to the original design as possible.  This is great for a collector (or engineer) that can appreciate the original design and engineering.  I'm sure there are those who are interested in platforms like the Station Six, KH9, TP9, etc., as firearms that capture the design of the originals as much as possible.  We've seen that B&T can incorporate improvements into platforms that are newly designed or become more mainstream, from general AR compatibility to adding Elftmann triggers directly into versions of the APC series.

Got my trigger in, and its a no go. The left side threaded hole is too tall to be able to thread in, even winded up slicing under my thumb trying to fidget it into place. Took out everything only leaving the SST housing and tried to thread it, and it just won't work. Already sent GRW a message, so hopefully this can get figured out. If not, I'll just have to deal with the stock trigger and see if they'll accept a return.

I received my trigger and installed it today.   I was a little concerned after reading the last post about the pin alignment.  

Fortunately, I didn't have any issues.  Dry firing shows a significant improvement and is consistently breaking at 4.25 pounds.

Yeah, GRW said pin alignment could be an issue when I was talking to him the other day. They sent me a label, and the SST housing is on its way back to them. He said they'll either pull an overrun housing or they'll make a new one for me to accomodate the pin alignment.

Just hate having to wait even longer now.

Sounds like great customer service.  Please keep us apprised on the turnaround time and outcome. I did appreciate that even the install instructions indicate that they will help install the trigger (as a last resort).  

I thought the instructions were well laid out and easy to follow.  The instructions didn't indicate whether the screws might come loose or need thread locker, so I'll be keeping an eye on them.

Latest email from them regarding the top sear screw.
I had issues today where my gun wasn't fully cycling back and I could not pick up a round.  I was at cola Warrior and ended up fully disassembling the gun at the event.  Couldnt figure it out.  Then I looked at the sear screw and realized it backed out quite a way and was preventing the bolt from fully cycling.  Once I screwed it back in it was fine.  So wonder if this is the issue they were describing.  Interesting I was going to call them to let them know this issue I had but saw the below email.  I'm wondering if some sort of thread locker would be smart to add or maybe it would cause some other issues.


Wanted to take a minute to thank you for your support and being the first to have the Short Stroke Kit.
It was no small feat tackling that trigger system, but it was much needed.

We have promised to support it through it's life cycle. We have had countless prototypes and tweaks, some of which were so exciting that we had to delay the launch by a few months, just because we found a better way to do something. Thank you for your patience.

One of the big changes we made along the way was to make the unit self-serviceable and upgradeable. What this allowed us to do want to machine spares and replacements that you can install if need be, but also allowed us to send out upgraded versions of parts. It would be unethical to change the geometry of a component and expect someone to buy another complete kit.

We set aside 2 weeks to handle the customer service portion of the initial launch (as well as machine maintenance). With every new product there will be, of course, some level of issues or customer concerns. We set the threshold for issues at 2%. If we had any reported issues reach 2% then we would investigate and remedy.

The area of focus is the screw which holds the arms of the fire control group. Noted below. We opted for a commercially available screw, however we have concern about the longevity of the combination of the bearing and this screw. To correct this issue, we are cutting our own custom screw to replace it. The swap will be easy and well documented in video. The screws will be sent to you in about a week along with instructions. If you have sent  your gun to us for install, we'll take care of it in-house before it is returned to you. The safest option is to wait for this screw before further use.

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Our goal is to make this the best possible upgrade for this platform, and we thank you for being early adopters. If you have any questions, do not hesitate. Thank you for your feedback. Thank you for your support.

Most sincerely,

Gigliotti Rifleworks

Ran the new trigger this past weekend.  This truly is an excellent improvement over the factory trigger.  I brought it by the shop and had a few buddies do some dry firing as well.  It was great to see them test the trigger and have that moment of surprise on their face.  Feedback was consistent that this fixes their main complaint about the TP9 and they expect that they'll be shooting it a lot more with this new trigger.  Two of them own their own TP9s and were so impressed that they were ready to buy.

It provides everything it promised: a short trigger with a clean pull and crisp reset.  It is a great trigger and a fantastic upgrade.  I'm calling it a must have to really up the shooting experience with the TP9.

A huge thanks to Gigliotti Rifleworks.  These types of projects involve a lot of time and risk.  They rose to the challenge and put out a great product (that they are already improving/finalizing for wider release).

FYI, one did notice that they couldn't fold and lock the stock as the new screw protrudes enough to block the stock from folding flat to the receiver - I hadn't noticed this but wanted to share.  It would be easy to file a small notch in the stock to enable folding.  EDIT:  I adjusted the screw depths and was able to get the stock to fold and hit the catch.  It's definitely touching the screw but closes enough to remain secured.

Couple swipes with a half round file took care of the folding issue for me.

Just a tentative update on my SST housing issue. Gigliotti's have already replaced the housing, but also offered to swap out the arms and bearings for the new version they are coming out with if I'm willing to be a little more patient, which I accepted.

Been almost a week since then, so I'll get a hold of them on Monday to get another update.

The released kits are all for the Navy guns, correct?

They did kits for both the older TP9 with the crossbolt safety and the current one with the more typical safety selector.

Sooo glad this is in the wild.
Hopefully they can partner with B&T like Elfman does with their triggers.

If anyone with the cross bolt safety model wants to get rid of your old FCG I’ll take it.

How is this trigger holding up for you guys that got into the first batch of these triggers?

Mine is holding up great.  I've run it a few times and it has been reliable and consistent.  

I do check the screw on top of the replacement fire control group (the part with the arms that catch the hammer) when cleaning.  It hasn't come loose.  I understand this may be a problem area and that Gigliotti is working on an improved part (a replacement screw per their email).  I also retighten the screw on the right side of the firearm (the one with the washer under it).  This one has seemed to loosen slightly.  I've held off on doing anything like using loctite on the retention screws as waiting for the improved part first.

I'm about ready to give up on trying to make this trigger kit work on mine. Got the kit back from Gigliotti and installed, and with the gun fully assembled, it refuses to reset if I hold the trigger and run the charging handle. Requires me tapping the trigger a few times before it'll pop into place and allow me to fire again.
Funnily enough, I can't make this happen with the top of the gun off of it, so I can't see what's actually happening.

I've reached out to Gigliotti for one last time, cause if they can't figure it out, I'm gonna need a refund for this.

EDIT: It took me nearly 4 hours of running the action by hand to get it functioning like it should as I had nothing better to do while watching a few movies

When I first installed and test fired mine, I also had an issue with the trigger not resetting.  I opened it up and reseated the trigger spring and had no more issues.  I think mine was pushed down too far and just needed the spring leg to be up a little higher.

So my top screw did back out on me.  I got ahold of Gigliotti when they announced the new screw.  Finally got it and installed.  Pretty straight forward.  It seems to be more secure than the original ones screw.  

I still like to see a better side screw setup.   That's the weak part.  If they are not installed correctly they can cause binding on the trigger and not reset.  Also one of the side screws backed out on me.  Glad I was able to find it.

also got to fire a full auto one today.  Man that thing is angry.  lol

Any more feedback on these FCGs? Seems like 50/50 success from those that posted.

My CH didn’t fit either DSA import I had.

Feel kind of bad for GRW with the timing of the PRO trigger updates.

I was getting mine zeroed again.  Still holding up.  I ghetto taped the screws.  Figured they would catch them if they back out.