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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 6:59:15 AM EDT
Can someone help me out with the weight of a standard (not nato stock) a3m1, kong flattop with nothing mounted, 16” barrel, standard flash hider, with and without empty 30rd mag? Would greatly appreciate it
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 2:03:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Odinforever2000]
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https://steyr-arms.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/AUG_A3_M1_US_2023.pdf
Page 59 7.8lbs I doubt nato vs standard will make a big enough weight difference |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 2:58:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://steyr-arms.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/AUG_A3_M1_US_2023.pdf Page 59 7.8lbs I doubt nato vs standard will make a big enough weight difference I’m taking published specifications with a big lump of salt. The Internet tells me the M4 is 33 inches extended, but go try to measure one. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 5:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: I’m taking published specifications with a big lump of salt. The Internet tells me the M4 is 33 inches extended, but go try to measure one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: Originally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://steyr-arms.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/AUG_A3_M1_US_2023.pdf Page 59 7.8lbs I doubt nato vs standard will make a big enough weight difference I’m taking published specifications with a big lump of salt. The Internet tells me the M4 is 33 inches extended, but go try to measure one. What is the correct measurement? |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 6:21:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: I’m taking published specifications with a big lump of salt. The Internet tells me the M4 is 33 inches extended, but go try to measure one. Published by the manufacturer is something you'd take with a grain of Salt? |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2024 7:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: What is the correct measurement? I have a p&w 14.5 with a tiny ass car stock, and 33” gets u about 1/3 of the way into the slots (bcm a2x). No fucking way 33 gets u the whole a2 flash hider, and then add proper m4 stock…. The car stock is shorter even than my sl-k, by a half inch. The m4 stock is longer still. Id say you are probably in 34.5 territory with non-extended fh and m4 stock. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 4:47:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: Published by the manufacturer is something you'd take with a grain of Salt? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: Originally Posted By casktcrw: I’m taking published specifications with a big lump of salt. The Internet tells me the M4 is 33 inches extended, but go try to measure one. Published by the manufacturer is something you'd take with a grain of Salt? Hell yes. Firearm manufacturer specs are notoriously unreliable. HK for example is especially bad. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 10:18:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: Hell yes. Firearm manufacturer specs are notoriously unreliable. HK for example is especially bad. I guess the only place I've experienced that is through Desert Tech,though their info is accurate now. Never had an issue with meltecs published specs. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: I have a p&w 14.5 with a tiny ass car stock, and 33" gets u about 1/3 of the way into the slots (bcm a2x). No fucking way 33 gets u the whole a2 flash hider, and then add proper m4 stock . The car stock is shorter even than my sl-k, by a half inch. The m4 stock is longer still. Id say you are probably in 34.5 territory with non-extended fh and m4 stock. I think they use the length w/o flash hider because that's how the ATF does it |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:20:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: I think they use the length w/o flash hider because that's how the ATF does it Yup that's how they do it. My Ar15 with a Magpul Ubr stock closed is 32" with a 16" Bbl |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:44:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: casktcrw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: I think they use the length w/o flash hider because that's how the ATF does it Which would be complete nonsense, and would support my point. Like weighing my car without the windows Would love to get an actual weight from someone that has one. |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:45:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: Yup that's how they do it. My Ar15 with a Magpul Ubr stock closed is 32" with a 16" Bbl The 33 inch number is with the stock extended |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:45:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: giantpune]
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This is as close as I could get. Brand new Aug, never been fired, no parts have been swapped. Its the CHF model with the backwards thread pitch.
Add a couple more oz for the longer rail model. Empty mag is 4.40oz. Any other math is left as an exercise to the reader.   
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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:46:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: This is as close as I could get. Brand new Aug, never been fired, no parts have been swapped. Its the CHF model with the backwards thread pitch. https://iili.io/JM5BV07.png https://iili.io/JM5BMfS.png https://iili.io/JM5BWg9.png Wrong rail :( How much w out mag? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 1:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: Wrong rail :( How much w out mag? The mag by itself is 4.40oz. The rifle is whatever the difference is. |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 2/29/2024 2:03:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: casktcrw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: The mag by itself is 4.40oz. The rifle is whatever the difference is. With it being so short, balanced, and firmly tucked in, do you find it easier to make hits offhand How wide is the stock? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2024 8:00:23 AM EDT
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So probably around 7 3/4 pounds.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2024 11:05:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: This is as close as I could get. Brand new Aug, never been fired, no parts have been swapped. Its the CHF model with the backwards thread pitch. Add a couple more oz for the longer rail model. Empty mag is 4.40oz. Any other math is left as an exercise to the reader. https://iili.io/JM5BV07.png https://iili.io/JM5BMfS.png https://iili.io/JM5BWg9.png |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2024 9:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: With it being so short, balanced, and firmly tucked in, do you find it easier to make hits offhand How wide is the stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By casktcrw: Originally Posted By giantpune: The mag by itself is 4.40oz. The rifle is whatever the difference is. With it being so short, balanced, and firmly tucked in, do you find it easier to make hits offhand How wide is the stock? Yes. I can hold the AUG aimed at a lightswitch plate in my house at 10yd for ~2 minutes 50 seconds, while with my AR I start to wobble off target at ~1 minute 50 seconds. This lead me to start this experiment, where I added weight to the stock of my AR (+14oz) to shift the center of gravity more to the rear, which helped place 'holdability' to close to the AUG. I plan on purchasing some tungsten weights for the stock to make this permanent. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/AR15-Balance-Experiment-shifting-center-of-gravity/118-785073/   |
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RI, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2024 6:01:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: casktcrw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Yes. I can hold the AUG aimed at a lightswitch plate in my house at 10yd for ~2 minutes 50 seconds, while with my AR I start to wobble off target at ~1 minute 50 seconds. This lead me to start this experiment, where I added weight to the stock of my AR (+14oz) to shift the center of gravity more to the rear, which helped place 'holdability' to close to the AUG. I plan on purchasing some tungsten weights for the stock to make this permanent. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/AR15-Balance-Experiment-shifting-center-of-gravity/118-785073/ https://i.ibb.co/qnDrt9L/Steyr-AUG-vs-LWRC-AR15-Length.jpg https://i.ibb.co/MkTH8p3/Rifle-Weight-Ballance-Experiment.png I didnt mean how long can u hold it up, im thinking u can actually get better groups? Good choice on the DI version of lwrc |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/8/2024 2:49:54 PM EDT
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I threw my 20" AUG A0 on a postage scale: 8.25oz (I guess wikipedia is lying saying that it's 7.9oz). Of course that's including the built-in optic
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2024 7:57:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: I threw my 20" AUG A0 on a postage scale: 8.25oz (I guess wikipedia is lying saying that it's 7.9oz). Of course that's including the built-in optic What's an A0? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2024 10:48:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: What's an A0?  |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:08:05 AM EDT
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My AUG CQC weighs a ton. (humble brag)
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2024 4:32:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: an AUG before the A1 updates https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51021791906_02c1c75328_o.jpg Put the 16" barrel on it and it's 7.95 lbs |
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