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Posted: 5/7/2022 7:12:09 PM EDT
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I’ve seen total of 3 stocks from recent production with cracking issue. I think there might be a polymer blend issue or stock curing/processing issue.
This means it likely affected the entire batch instead of the few we’ve seen. However, I’ve not seen anyone else reported their stocks cracking. All of the stocks with cracking issue were with very low round count. |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 8:56:58 PM EDT
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Where are they cracking?
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Posted: 5/7/2022 9:03:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are they cracking? Mostly around the takedown latch, one also separated by the rear pin. |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 9:15:27 PM EDT
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How common is this problem?
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Posted: 5/7/2022 9:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How common is this problem? As kiddsf mentioned above. It's been 3 reported cracks at this point. I've seen them online as well. |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 9:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How common is this problem? I've only seen 3. All posted on Reddit which one of them was a duplicated post on YT. My friend got his AUG A3M1 in March 2020, SN is "15USAxxx". I got my A3M1 in November 2021, SN is "24USAxxx". If Steyr does indeed make 999 guns per SN block/batch, then that is about 9000 guns between 2020 to 2021. Even if we halve that number, it would still be considered "rare/very uncommon". FYI, my A3M1 has 700rds through it without an issue. As mentioned already, all the guns with cracked stock happened pretty early with low round count. I will keep an eye on my stock but so far so good. Also, it is interesting how we are only seeing this on the recent guns between 2020-2022. Other long time AUG users and myself having decade+ experience all mentioned before how this is our first time seeing this issue. It is very unfortunate, but just like everyone else Steyr likely got affected by COVID and sourcing/QC/production issues. |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 9:56:49 PM EDT
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What color stock?
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Posted: 5/7/2022 11:05:44 PM EDT
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The stocks aren't made when the receivers are. The only way to tell if you have a potentially affected stock vulnerable as the other few, would be to look at the date wheel on the stock.
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Posted: 5/7/2022 11:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What color stock? Quote HistoryQuoted: What color stock? 2 green, both NATO 1 white, IIRC standard. Quoted: The stocks aren't made when the receivers are. The only way to tell if you have a potentially affected stock vulnerable as the other few, would be to look at the date wheel on the stock. Indeed. Those guys didn't post what the date of manufacturing are on the stocks. From what I know, going by the date of the posts on Reddit and YT, the guns were bought in Q3 or Q4 2021. That likely means the ones affected are early 2021 or late 2020. Side note: Luke Wilson at Steyr USA responded to a question about the AUG receivers with the "date wheel" marking underneath the receiver. He said they are now using US cast blanks and finishing it in the US. This is different than the "SWD" marked Austrian blanks they started using between 2017-2019. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 10:29:42 AM EDT
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Were these all replaced under warranty by Steyr USA?
Quoted: Side note: Luke Wilson at Steyr USA responded to a question about the AUG receivers with the "date wheel" marking underneath the receiver. He said they are now using US cast blanks and finishing it in the US. This is different than the "SWD" marked Austrian blanks they started using between 2017-2019. I'd imagine that the stocks would be US made for 9.22r compliance, no? |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 10:54:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were these all replaced under warranty by Steyr USA? I'd imagine that the stocks would be US made for 9.22r compliance, no? Quote HistoryQuoted: Were these all replaced under warranty by Steyr USA? Quoted: Side note: Luke Wilson at Steyr USA responded to a question about the AUG receivers with the "date wheel" marking underneath the receiver. He said they are now using US cast blanks and finishing it in the US. This is different than the "SWD" marked Austrian blanks they started using between 2017-2019. I'd imagine that the stocks would be US made for 9.22r compliance, no? Steyr has not stated what parts are made in the USA for 922r compliance, and I do not know anyone who has stated/heard what parts are. The stock molds are very expensive, it would not surprise me if stocks are still made in Austria on the molds over there and smaller and less expensive parts with less expensive tooling are made here in the USA. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:48:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steyr has not stated what parts are made in the USA for 922r compliance, and I do not know anyone who has stated/heard what parts are. The stock molds are very expensive, it would not surprise me if stocks are still made in Austria on the molds over there and smaller and less expensive parts with less expensive tooling are made here in the USA. Sven Manticore Arms 
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:04:05 PM EDT
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The stock body is imported, but the trigger is US. That's why all triggers are black.
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:46:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steyr has not stated what parts are made in the USA for 922r compliance, and I do not know anyone who has stated/heard what parts are. This is from Eric Wood in 2009: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Steyr_Aug_A3_US_made_parts_list/43-286408/ The barrel and flash hider are made in the US, as well as the following parts: 1. Gas piston 2. Cocking body (3 pieces) 3. Receiver 4. Magazine follower 5. Magazine body 6. Magazine Floorplate 7. Trigger Thank You Eric Wood Sales Manager Steyr Arms 205-467-6544 |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:58:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is from Eric Wood in 2009: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Steyr_Aug_A3_US_made_parts_list/43-286408/ The barrel and flash hider are made in the US, as well as the following parts: 1. Gas piston 2. Cocking body (3 pieces) 3. Receiver 4. Magazine follower 5. Magazine body 6. Magazine Floorplate 7. Trigger Thank You Eric Wood Sales Manager Steyr Arms 205-467-6544 Which quickly wasn't accurate any longer once the US made mags shit the bed. I think Sven's general point is that we really have no idea what the US made parts are. It's easy to guess which parts here and there are US made, but we don't know and in the end we have AUGs in the USA, that's good enough for me... |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:12:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Were these all replaced under warranty by Steyr USA? Quoted: Side note: Luke Wilson at Steyr USA responded to a question about the AUG receivers with the "date wheel" marking underneath the receiver. He said they are now using US cast blanks and finishing it in the US. This is different than the "SWD" marked Austrian blanks they started using between 2017-2019. I'd imagine that the stocks would be US made for 9.22r compliance, no? I know 2 of the 3 stocks were replaced by Steyr USA. I didn't keep track on the last one. As for the origin of the stocks... I have Sabre Defense A3, Vltor A3, and current "date wheel"(not SWD marked) A3M1 rifles. They all have the same exterior Steyr marking, the interior date wheel, and the "Z" or "N" marking next to the date wheel. I'm pretty sure the stocks are still Steyr Austrian made. FYI, my preban A1s and postban USRs also have the same "Z" or "N" marking inside the stock at the buttplate end. Though, they don't have a date wheel like the A3 and A3M1 stocks. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 9:38:14 AM EDT
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I was looking a few AUGs at Scheels and noted that the only Austrian marked stock was a black one. The Mud and Green were both naked of any markings at all. Over on the FB Steyr Owners page that I lurk on, I've seen a few reports of cracked stocks and even a cracked receiver on a new rifle. My enthusiasm to get another AUG has been waning as of late. I think I will bide my time.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking a few AUGs at Scheels and noted that the only Austrian marked stock was a black one. The Mud and Green were both naked of any markings at all. Over on the FB Steyr Owners page that I lurk on, I've seen a few reports of cracked stocks and even a cracked receiver on a new rifle. My enthusiasm to get another AUG has been waning as of late. I think I will bide my time. I'm in the same FB group. There is only 1 cracked receiver from the owner that bought it used and he did say Steyr is working with him on this. Other posters that posted after that person were just false alarms. They thought the tiny surface imperfection on their cast receiver has a hairline crack, but this is not true as the guys already found out and discussed. As for the stocks, from the more recent production guns, I have black A3 and green A3M1. The A3 is the very first batch of guns from Steyr using Sabre Defense receiver and barrel, having "1USAxxx" SN. The A3M1 was purchased back in November 2021, "24USAxxx". They both have the same Steyr marking on the right side of the stock, and as mentioned earlier, they also have the same date wheel marking and "N" marking on the inside face. FYI, the 2 of the 3 stocks I've seen with cracking issue have Steyr marking on the side as well. The 3rd, a white stock, is b/c the poster didn't show the full view of the stock but I'm pretty sure it will have the Steyr marking like other white stocks. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 10:12:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in the same FB group. There is only 1 cracked receiver from the owner that bought it used and he did say Steyr is working with him on this. Other posters that posted after that person were just false alarms. They thought the tiny surface imperfection on their cast receiver has a hairline crack, but this is not true as the guys already found out and discussed. As for the stocks, from the more recent production guns, I have black A3 and green A3M1. The A3 is the very first batch of guns from Steyr using Sabre Defense receiver and barrel, having "1USAxxx" SN. The A3M1 was purchased back in November 2021, "24USAxxx". They both have the same Steyr marking on the right side of the stock, and as mentioned earlier, they also have the same date wheel marking and "N" marking on the inside face. FYI, the 2 of the 3 stocks I've seen with cracking issue have Steyr marking on the side as well. The 3rd, a white stock, is b/c the poster didn't show the full view of the stock but I'm pretty sure it will have the Steyr marking like other white stocks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was looking a few AUGs at Scheels and noted that the only Austrian marked stock was a black one. The Mud and Green were both naked of any markings at all. Over on the FB Steyr Owners page that I lurk on, I've seen a few reports of cracked stocks and even a cracked receiver on a new rifle. My enthusiasm to get another AUG has been waning as of late. I think I will bide my time. I'm in the same FB group. There is only 1 cracked receiver from the owner that bought it used and he did say Steyr is working with him on this. Other posters that posted after that person were just false alarms. They thought the tiny surface imperfection on their cast receiver has a hairline crack, but this is not true as the guys already found out and discussed. As for the stocks, from the more recent production guns, I have black A3 and green A3M1. The A3 is the very first batch of guns from Steyr using Sabre Defense receiver and barrel, having "1USAxxx" SN. The A3M1 was purchased back in November 2021, "24USAxxx". They both have the same Steyr marking on the right side of the stock, and as mentioned earlier, they also have the same date wheel marking and "N" marking on the inside face. FYI, the 2 of the 3 stocks I've seen with cracking issue have Steyr marking on the side as well. The 3rd, a white stock, is b/c the poster didn't show the full view of the stock but I'm pretty sure it will have the Steyr marking like other white stocks. That's good news. I thought I read that it was new/newer receiver and I clearly missed the part that it was purchased used. |
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Posted: 5/12/2022 12:31:29 PM EDT
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Got a green original mag Aug on the way.
Rolled the dice since it seems like only a handful have had issues out of what I'm sure has been a ton of rifles sold over the past few years. But... what exactly should I look for to narrow down if it might be from the problem timeframe? |
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Posted: 5/12/2022 12:39:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what exactly should I look for to narrow down if it might be from the problem timeframe?  I'm sure Steyr will take care of you, if any develop. |
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Posted: 5/12/2022 1:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But... what exactly should I look for to narrow down if it might be from the problem timeframe? If we really want to capture a timeframe, like I mentioned earlier it is 2020-2021. I've not seen any issues with earlier guns. I think it is safe to assume it is COVID related. Just like everyone else, Steyr was affected. That said, my recent A3M1 was purchased November 2021, stock is 11/2020, receiver is 07/2020. No issues after 700rds |
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