They were supposed to start shipping in December BUT there has been a delay due to an earlier person associated with the project told the ATF they were easily converted to FA which they are not. The manufacturers showed the ATF they were not easily converted but the dust has not cleared yet from the headache/delay this has caused. They offered the early buyers a discount on another platform or two free 20 round drums as compensation for this delay... I chose the two free drums. I hope they will ship within the next few months because I am very anxious to get my hands on mine. It has been a grail gun on my bucket list since I first saw one on future weapons a long time ago. I purchased the iron A-frame sights traditional looking version. To say I am excited about getting this puppy is a huge understatement. I will give a review and post pics after it arrives.