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Posted: 11/14/2025 10:56:21 AM EST
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I know there are “some” better alternatives and they are very expensive. That we know. I’ve only seen very limited post online. Anybody seen one in person or seen reviews yet ? |
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Originally Posted By vanrichten: Tag for more info. The RC3 is utterly terrible so I'm interested to see if the RC4 truly improves anything. The fact that they are still making the RC2 line tells me that those are still wanted over anything else they might have. Every time I hear utterly terrible or something like that about the Rc3 I feel like people expected the high flow can to behave like a conventional suppressor. I tested the can ~140A at 3 mic locations on an 11.5" gun. I shot it without ear protection indoor and it hurt my ears enough that 2-3 rounds was my limit for that. Still oddly while doing that tonally it sounded pretty well suppressed- significantly better tone in my opinion than the KAC CRS PRT Gen1. In flash first round has flash and then it is kind of small afterward with the flash suppressor mount it was designed for. I think it's more of a super High flow can's aren't really quiet issue than a "RC3 sucks" issue. It was weird to see photos of an RC4 webpage and then hear nothing else about it. |
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Yeh I keep seeing the same ole comments , the new “foreskin” suppressor, “that thing looks so ugly”, “looks like a butt plug”. It’s truly amazing those are the first things that one thinks when looking at a newly designed suppressor. lol. I hope SF looked at the rc2 and rc3 and had a lessons learned and created a good suppressor from them both. I’m sure the pre orders will stack up quick. Looking forward to seeing some YouTube review videos. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: Every time I hear utterly terrible or something like that about the Rc3 I feel like people expected the high flow can to behave like a conventional suppressor. I tested the can ~140A at 3 mic locations on an 11.5" gun. I shot it without ear protection indoor and it hurt my ears enough that 2-3 rounds was my limit for that. Still oddly while doing that tonally it sounded pretty well suppressed- significantly better tone in my opinion than the KAC CRS PRT Gen1. In flash first round has flash and then it is kind of small afterward with the flash suppressor mount it was designed for. I think it's more of a super High flow can's aren't really quiet issue than a "RC3 sucks" issue. It was weird to see photos of an RC4 webpage and then hear nothing else about it. I don't expect SF suppressors to be the quietest, that isn't why I bought them. But I honestly was hoping that the newer option would perform at least as well as the older versions. Compared to every other SF suppressor currently on the market, the RC3 is honestly terrible to me. It also totally soured me on any concept of a flow through suppressor. I've read that there are far better flow through options out there, but to me the trade off is in no way worth it. I'll take more gas to have less sound. I'm hoping the RC4 can somehow bridge the gap to have less gas but not need plugs and muffs. The RC3 is the only suppressor I own that I regret buying. It has exactly 28 rounds through it and I don't imagine it ever having more. |
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Originally Posted By wolfpak: The redesign of the front cap hopefully improves things. It looks like a different material and probably removable. But hard to tell with the pic. The cap looks like it likely it has something to do with improved flash reduction. I doubt that part is removable. Of course this whole thread is premised on the RC4 existing. |
Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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Originally Posted By vanrichten: Tag for more info. The RC3 is utterly terrible so I'm interested to see if the RC4 truly improves anything. The fact that they are still making the RC2 line tells me that those are still wanted over anything else they might have. The RC3 was designed for a contract request and had specific requirements to be designed around. That's direct from Surefire. It's definitely not for everyone, but it's not terrible. Your needs just don't match that of the contract it was designed around. |
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They are not available to purchase on silencer shop or my other big distributor. I did however receive an initial email with an offer to pre order them from SS. So I sounds like the announcement was just that, an announcement. Not a release. I dont remember if I was given a release time frame or not. The shop i work at has sold hundreds of RC2s, and we still continue to do so. I think we have maybe sold 3 or 4 RC3s. Ive had one person come in and ask about the RC4. They weren't ready to buy. Just wanted to look at it. I suspect I will not get RC4 sales until someone has verified its not a RC3 V2. These faster approvals are sweet, remember when a can would come out and every thread was like "yeah ill make a thread about it in 8 mos". Haha |
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I’d say they’re going for $1300.00 to $1500.00 pre orders. Just a guess. I’m sure we will see something hopefully by December. And I do like the Silencerco Velos LBP 556. And it’s less money when comparing these two durable suppressors. |
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Originally Posted By wolfpak: I’d say they’re going for $1300.00 to $1500.00 pre orders. Just a guess. I’m sure we will see something hopefully by December. And I do like the Silencerco Velos LBP 556. And it’s less money when comparing these two durable suppressors. The pricing is in-between the rc2 and the rc3. I donr remember exactly. The velos is a fantastic can, but sico is super stupid for putting charlie threads on it when its simply not needed and not widely supported like hub. |
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Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy: The pricing is in-between the rc2 and the rc3. I donr remember exactly. The velos is a fantastic can, but sico is super stupid for putting charlie threads on it when its simply not needed and not widely supported like hub. Agreed on both counts on the Velos. |
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Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy: The pricing is in-between the rc2 and the rc3. I donr remember exactly. The velos is a fantastic can, but sico is super stupid for putting charlie threads on it when its simply not needed and not widely supported like hub. The charlie system is more foolproof and secure- it is superior to Hub, so they aren't so much stupid as they simply made the correct engineering choice to accompany a harder use product. The best system for weight and durability would be built in mount as the thermal pathway to the muzzle device/barrel would be superior with a built in mount. |
Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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