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Posted: 2/21/2018 10:46:28 AM EDT
While at the local gun shop this weekend, I had the chance to put my mitts on a SilencerCo Maxim 9 for the first time. Now, I'm thinking I must have one, even if it means selling a kidney.
I know they were just released last year and NFA wait times mean not many folks have likely taken possession yet. But, there have to be a number of folks who've had the chance to shoot them. So, what's your opinion? Is it worth the money? Would you actually carry it, or is it just a range toy? |
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Nice writeup RipGear! I have been kicking around the idea of a suppressed pistol that is suppressed 100% of the time. The Maxim 9 seems to address the shortcomings of a suppressor that is added to a normal pistol such as added length/weight, limited holsters, odd feeling recoil impulse and obscured normal height sights.
The Maxim 9 might be just what is needed to get myself and others into suppressed pistols. |
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I've got one at my dealer. We went to the range with it and my S&W M&P w/ a TiRant 45 for a comparison. We only put about 100 rounds through the maxim, all in the full length configuration. I used a mix of Tula 9mm steel Maxx 115 and some CCI 147. My thoughts below are:
WARNING: You are about to read the opinion of a guy with no meter... Maxim:
I've got video of me shooting the two guns next to each other. I'll send it to someone if they'd like to put it up.. |
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I've got one at my dealer. We went to the range with it and my S&W M&P w/ a TiRant 45 for a comparison. We only put about 100 rounds through the maxim, all in the full length configuration. I used a mix of Tula 9mm steel Maxx 115 and some CCI 147. My thoughts below are: WARNING: You are about to read the opinion of a guy with no meter... Maxim:
I've got video of me shooting the two guns next to each other. I'll send it to someone if they'd like to put it up.. View Quote |
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I'd be willing to bet there are very few actually carrying a Maxim 9 but it would make a great 'nightstand' gun. For myself an Omega 9k on a Glock 43 is almost as small in length, supposedly similar suppression, and great carry piece without the suppressor as long as single stack capacity isn't a deal killer.
I may still pop for a Maxim 9 but the Omega 9k was a cheaper entry cost and provides a lot of value and flexibility on other hosts. The Maxim 9 gives longer sight radius, functional sights, doesn't beat up a red dot, and is full capacity double stack. But I have a hard time seeing myself carrying it for general purpose use. I'm on the lookout for a good deal on it, so it's still an attractive concept to me. It was hard to justify as an early purchase while filling in hosts and cans, and hard to justify the extra utility vs cost once conventional muzzle cans were acquired. |
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I'd be willing to bet there are very few actually carrying a Maxim 9 but it would make a great 'nightstand' gun. For myself an Omega 9k on a Glock 43 is almost as small in length, supposedly similar suppression, and great carry piece without the suppressor as long as single stack capacity isn't a deal killer. I may still pop for a Maxim 9 but the Omega 9k was a cheaper entry cost and provides a lot of value and flexibility on other hosts. The Maxim 9 gives longer sight radius, functional sights, doesn't beat up a red dot, and is full capacity double stack. But I have a hard time seeing myself carrying it for general purpose use. I'm on the lookout for a good deal on it, so it's still an attractive concept to me. It was hard to justify as an early purchase while filling in hosts and cans, and hard to justify the extra utility vs cost once conventional muzzle cans were acquired. View Quote |
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Mines still looking n jail and it’s been 8 months (trust). I paid $1600 with stamp. I’m looking forward to possibly shooting it this year.
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Just picked mine up yesterday and its worth every penny ... everyone that shot it now wants one Gonna be my new HD firearm until my 9mm can is approved for my MP5 Out of the box: 50 rounds of Federal HST 124gr 100 Rounds of elcheapo Blazer Brass 124gr 100 Rounds Sellier Bellot 124gr 50 Rounds of Magtech 115gr Functioned flawlessly Even dropped it in some dirty snow https://i.imgur.com/0ahTkm4.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: How hot does it get? View Quote ETA: couldn't find my thermometer.... another 200 rounds no failures |
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Texasota Sales has them for $995.
Personally I think they are cool, but nothing mind blowing. I think the only thing I could see using one for is hiking around hunting, but they are big and trigger sucks. I'd buy one just because they are cool if HPA passed (obviously not going to). Like mentioned, light mounting is lame, big holster for sure, too big for CCW (realistically), trigger sucks, stuck with an NFA gun when you could just have a G17/19 and an Omega 9K? I don't know, good in theory and they are cool but I don't know what I would do with one? |
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Texasota Sales has them for $995. Personally I think they are cool, but nothing mind blowing. I think the only thing I could see using one for is hiking around hunting, but they are big and trigger sucks. I'd buy one just because they are cool if HPA passed (obviously not going to). Like mentioned, light mounting is lame, big holster for sure, too big for CCW (realistically), trigger sucks, stuck with an NFA gun when you could just have a G17/19 and an Omega 9K? I don't know, good in theory and they are cool but I don't know what I would do with one? View Quote Many people purchase full sized handguns, though the majority of people don't have a carry license (where required), and of those that do carry, most don't carry a full size handgun. Despite that, there is a huge market for full sized handguns, every major manufacturer produces at least two different model lines. So where are all of these pistols going and what are people doing with them? I'd guess most live in a safe or bedside other than leaving the home for range time. The Maxim 9 will do alot of those tasks of course, same as a traditional suppressed pistol. The difference is in being able to holster it just as you would any non-suppressed pistol, as well as not having the other drawbacks of a traditional can. No extra long custom made holster is needed, no checking to see if the can has loosened, no function issues due to piston problems, no sight issues - just holster it and use it. Personally, I'm going to open carry mine when hunting, in addition to range time and night stand duty. The probability that I'll need to use it while in the field or defending my home are very high and I want to protect my hearing as much as possible. I'll still carry something small and concealable while conducting my everyday life outside the home and will live with the consequences of hearing damage God forbid I ever have to use it. Neat comparison picture of the Maxim 9 in the long setup below: |
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Mine is in jail but coming out any day now, hopefully. I've put 400ish rounds down the pipe, no issues for me but I let a guy shoot it the other day (it super dirty) and he had a FTE (because he was holding it like a little bitch I'm guessing). It's fun to shoot, the trigger is a little strange and if your too high on it it doesn't want to pull, over all I'm pleased with it.
I need a way to put a folding Kak brace or something on it the more I shoot it, this feeling is only going to get worse once I put the fastfire on top. Its big as a pistol but super short for being suppressed, so its an odd size, massive compared to a Glock 17, buy tiny compared to my Glock 17 with my .45 can. It doesn't seem like a great "sidearm" to me but would have its uses, especially with a brace or stock on it somehow. |
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Mine is still in ATF purgatory. Cash was checked Aug 7th, and I think July approvals are trickling in. I already have a RMR07 with the Type 2 plate ready to go. More importantly, Gcode came out with an RTI compatible holster, but I had to cancel it once I found out the XST holster is not RDS compatible. Thinking about the SLR Magwell with a TTI base plate for kicks and giggles.
One thing I noticed while watching the Shotshow 2018 videos, Talon Sei said the triggers were much improved over the initial batch. I sent SilencerCo an e-mail asking what work was done to the Shotshow Maxim 9, but I haven't heard back from them. |
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Mine is still in ATF purgatory. Cash was checked Aug 7th, and I think July approvals are trickling in. I already have a RMR07 with the Type 2 plate ready to go. More importantly, Gcode came out with an RTI compatible holster, but I had to cancel it once I found out the XST holster is not RDS compatible. Thinking about the SLR Magwell with a TTI base plate for kicks and giggles. One thing I noticed while watching the Shotshow 2018 videos, Talon Sei said the triggers were much improved over the initial batch. I sent SilencerCo an e-mail asking what work was done to the Shotshow Maxim 9, but I haven't heard back from them. View Quote If you have an early one in jail (under 500SN) be sure its been test fired so your not picking it up just to send it back right away.. my dealer tested all of his and had one that failed to reset 4/10x, fixed and now its a demo gun being converted to FA. |
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I went a team build event that my boss arranged at our local range, one of the rentals was a Maxim 9. I wasn't the first person to shoot it, maybe the third? It was so hot it was hard to hold onto. The slide stop was so hot I thought it was going to leave a mark on my support thumb. I also thought it had a terrible trigger, heavy and gritty. Maybe the rental was dirty?
It sounded pretty good and I would love to have one, one of the only practical suppressed pistols. If you're not sneaking around taking out sentrys I think most suppressed pistols (outside of a 22) are too large to be carried. I could absolutely put a Maxim 9 on my first line belt, something I wouldn't do with a typical suppressed pistol. It just isn't good for high volume shooting. |
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I went a team build event that my boss arranged at our local range, one of the rentals was a Maxim 9. I wasn't the first person to shoot it, maybe the third? It was so hot it was hard to hold onto. The slide stop was so hot I thought it was going to leave a mark on my support thumb. View Quote |
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Quoted: Spoke to my local dealer when I picked mine up, he said he could barely tell the difference between the old vs new trigger. If you have an early one in jail (under 500SN) be sure its been test fired so your not picking it up just to send it back right away.. my dealer tested all of his and had one that failed to reset 4/10x, fixed and now its a demo gun being converted to FA. View Quote |
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i Love mine. It feels like a normal gun, has a nice long sigh radius, and sounds good
https://youtu.be/iDNbqJewSeI |
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I haven't really noticed the "too hot" side of things. The can gets hot on a traditionally suppressed pistol, this we all know. It's no different--- just par for the course.
As far as the pistol itself getting hot, I haven't really noticed it being "more hot" than a normal pistol. I've had both a 226 and a 320 too hot to touch without gloves (without a suppressor) at classes. Logic would make sense that it could be hotter than normal pistols... however I ran a match with one (generally 50 rounds per stage) and had no issues at all. I'm not sure who is really running a pistol harder than 50 rounds 10x in fairly quick succession unless it's competition or serious training. |
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I really wish HPA would pass so you could get these over the counter and quick. Oh well. It seems like it would be great for HD and hunting, but I can't see concealed carry with it. Truth be told if I have to shoot somebody in the real world I kinda want it to be loud! I'm not a super ninja or taking out spies, so I may want people to know there's gun shots in the area.
I'm thinking I may get one when the kinks are worked out and the price comes down. I am a newb to centerfire cans so I would rather have something that goes gun to gun, rather than always attached. |
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I just picked mine up. It will be open carried for hunting. Suppresses decently. Trigger is horrible but I have a spring kit on the way for it. Bought one of the serpas for it (I know, I know but I need retention while climbing in stands, etc.). Had to use the dremel to make it work with the rmr. It’s light enough to carry easily. Overall I’m pleased with it.
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Anyone mod their Maxim trigger? I was browsing and came across this spring kit.... anyone using it?
http://www.modernweaponsystems.com/modern-weapon-systems-silencerco-maxim-9-enhanced-trigger-kit/ |
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Anyone mod their Maxim trigger? I was browsing and came across this spring kit.... anyone using it? http://www.modernweaponsystems.com/modern-weapon-systems-silencerco-maxim-9-enhanced-trigger-kit/ View Quote Definitely a huge upgrade from what I can tell so far, will report back after I get some rounds down range. |
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http://www.modernweaponsystems.com/modern-weapon-systems-silencerco-maxim-9-enhanced-trigger-kit/
Haven’t tried this kit myself but considering it. I have had several light primer strikes with mine and shoots low. |
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http://www.modernweaponsystems.com/modern-weapon-systems-silencerco-maxim-9-enhanced-trigger-kit/ Haven't tried this kit myself but considering it. I have had several light primer strikes with mine and shoots low. View Quote I will probably end up purchasing that spring kit this weekend. |
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The trigger face & trigger guard could use some radiusing on the corners for extended range trips. View Quote I bought the RMR mounting plate as soon as it was released... and what seemed like only days later they released all of the other mounting plate options. I had a RMR on mine, but the plate came loose. Those screws are tiny. I thought the RMR was too bulky and removed it to put on a PPC. I may try a Shield optic. |
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I got the MWS spring kit installed, but I had multiple light primer strikes with the lightest spring. Test ammo was Speer 147 lawman, Speer 147 GD, Federal 124 HST, and WWB 115. All of them would get light primer strikes 1/2 the time, and WWB wouldnt even go off.
Gonna try the red spring tomorrow or Monday and see if it works better. |
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I got the MWS spring kit installed, but I had multiple light primer strikes with the lightest spring. Test ammo was Speer 147 lawman, Speer 147 GD, Federal 124 HST, and WWB 115. All of them would get light primer strikes 1/2 the time, and WWB wouldnt even go off. Gonna try the red spring tomorrow or Monday and see if it works better. View Quote |
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Please report back with your findings. View Quote I'm glad to report that the heavier red spring did the trick for reliable ignition. I did have two light primer strikes, when I was riding the reset on double taps. If I let the trigger reset without riding the trigger, it will go bang. |
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I LOVE MINE. Trigger isn’t a match trigger but it’s perfectly serviceable. Makes other suppressed pistols truly obsolete.
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I LOVE MINE. Trigger isn’t a match trigger but it’s perfectly serviceable. Makes other suppressed pistols truly obsolete. View Quote |
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I love mine too! Thinking about the red spring kit too, partially because of the pull, but mostly because of the trigger safety preventing me from pulling the trigger unless I do it just right.
Have you all compared the short and long configurations? I was shocked to see it meter quieter at the shooter's ear in the short configuration in Mac's video. Have any of you found the same? Or the opposite? Mine's in NFA jail now and they only have an indoor range, otherwise I'd be trying it myself. Thanks! |
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I love mine too! Thinking about the red spring kit too, partially because of the pull, but mostly because of the trigger safety preventing me from pulling the trigger unless I do it just right. Have you all compared the short and long configurations? I was shocked to see it meter quieter at the shooter's ear in the short configuration in Mac's video. Have any of you found the same? Or the opposite? Mine's in NFA jail now and they only have an indoor range, otherwise I'd be trying it myself. Thanks! View Quote |
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I would really like to shoot one side by side with a traditional centerfire pistol and suppressor. I'm not a huge suppressed centerfire pistol shooter or fan but I think the Maxim would be the best package overall.
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I just finished my review on mine yesterday, the package size is hard to beat (I compared it to a G19 with a TiRant 9M) and it's not as heavy as it looks.
The trigger is meh, reset isn't horrible. I notice a big difference from 115's to 147's, the video illustrates that as well. Grip feels good, sights are good, its been 100% reliable so far. At ~$1500 it's a tough pill to swallow, now that they are out there for just over a grand...I say go for it. |
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Great price, knowing what I know now, I'd pay that for one! View Quote |
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Really? How's $999 sound? View Quote You've really got me tempted with this and the Aurora. |
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I haven't really noticed the "too hot" side of things. The can gets hot on a traditionally suppressed pistol, this we all know. It's no different--- just par for the course. As far as the pistol itself getting hot, I haven't really noticed it being "more hot" than a normal pistol. I've had both a 226 and a 320 too hot to touch without gloves (without a suppressor) at classes. Logic would make sense that it could be hotter than normal pistols... however I ran a match with one (generally 50 rounds per stage) and had no issues at all. I'm not sure who is really running a pistol harder than 50 rounds 10x in fairly quick succession unless it's competition or serious training. View Quote |
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So finally got a chance to put some more rounds through my maxim 9 yesterday. Gun sounds great. I was using AE 155gr and 147gr subsonic. I was having a few instances of trigger failure to reset which I can attribute to break in. I also got some weird POI shift on a few rounds and checked and sure enough had at least on very tiny baffle kiss on the endcap. I got home to inspect everything and taking it down one of the rods and screws was stuck so I could remove it completely and it was really tight. First time taking it apart so I wonder if one screw was over torqued from factor , could it put enough strain on barrel to cause slight misalignment and strike? Either way emailed SICO and I am sure they will get it taken care of soon.
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I've been thinking about a 19x lately, but once I add suppressor sights and a threaded barrel I'm going to be close to the current Maxim prices.. Decisions, decisions.
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