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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:58:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
Sorry guys. Have a simple question but cant seem to find a definitive answer for it. I Have a registered Bushmaster SBR that I purchase about 10 yrs ago. It has an 11 inch barrel. Say I want to put a 10.5 or 7.5 inch barrel on it,do I need to send any paperwork in to BATF stating that I am making a change? Thank you
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:29:36 PM EDT
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You can swap the uppers. Just so at the end of the day you put the upper it was registered with.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgrprib: You can swap the uppers. Just so at the end of the day you put the upper it was registered with. At the end of the day? There's no requirement to return it to the original configuration. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:39:46 PM EDT
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Swap uppers as you see fit. If you intend to PERMANENTLY change the barrel length, send a simple note to ATF reflecting the barrel length change.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:50:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: Swap uppers as you see fit. If you intend to PERMANENTLY change the barrel length, send a simple note to ATF reflecting the barrel length change. 18Z50 Pretty sure that's not a requirement either just a request from them. There's no law that I am aware of that requires it. It really comes down to permanent which on an AR seems like never when it comes to uppers. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:54:48 PM EDT
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The only requirement is that it is built to the configuration that it was listed on the form. After that no one gives a rats fart as to the length.
There is no requirement to return it original configuration or to notify of any changes. Unless you want to permanently remove it from the registry. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:17:45 PM EDT
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But you will never permanently alter it from it’s original configuration.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2023 6:45:03 AM EDT
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Yes ,It will ALWAYS be an SBR. Thanks to all for your help
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2023 6:46:38 AM EDT
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Yes ,It will ALWAYS be an SBR. Thanks to all for your help
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2023 7:39:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: swOHmatt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rhandle: Yes ,It will ALWAYS be an SBR. Thanks to all for your help No, that isn’t correct. It is an SBR when it has a barrel length less than 16 inches or an overall length less than 26 inches. Put on an upper with a barrel 16 inches or greater and it is not an SBR. You can even sell it then without advising ATF of the change. Unlike the “once a machinegun always a machinegun” ATF rule, it is an SBR only when configured as an SBR. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Deregistering-a-SBR-lower/17-522768/ |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 8:48:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgrprib: You can swap the uppers. Just so at the end of the day you put the upper it was registered with. Incorrect. You have no obligation to either maintain the length on the Form 1 or notify ATF of any barrel length changes. Technically, you do have an obligation to initially “make” it as indicated on the F1 |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 9:14:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swOHmatt: Put on an upper with a barrel 16 inches or greater and it is not an SBR. You can even sell it then without advising ATF of the change. Not an issue for the OP...just creates an issue for the buyer when they decide to Form 1 it and it's still in the registry under the OP's info. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 9:18:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -Obsessed-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FredMan: Incorrect. You have no obligation to either maintain the length on the Form 1 or notify ATF of any barrel length changes. Technically, you do have an obligation to initially “make” it as indicated on the F1 This. Nowhere do you need to notify of changes. I have an 8", F1 was with a 10.3". It's fine. And legal. |
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Posted: 11/6/2023 5:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swOHmatt: No, that isn’t correct. It is an SBR when it has a barrel length less than 16 inches or an overall length less than 26 inches. Put on an upper with a barrel 16 inches or greater and it is not an SBR. You can even sell it then without advising ATF of the change. Unlike the “once a machinegun always a machinegun” ATF rule, it is an SBR only when configured as an SBR. I think his point was he was not going to ever do that. |
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Posted: 12/9/2023 11:54:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: At the end of the day? There's no requirement to return it to the original configuration. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By rgrprib: You can swap the uppers. Just so at the end of the day you put the upper it was registered with. At the end of the day? There's no requirement to return it to the original configuration. This is the correct answer |
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