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Link Posted: 2/10/2024 6:00:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:
I want one in 7.62x39.  With 556 there are several factory bullpens available.
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I hadn't thought of this, though a buddy of me loves x39.  I just sent him the links to the upper and this bullpup kit, as I know he has mentioned wanting a x39 bullpup before.
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 6:58:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Is the BRN upper compatible with all lowers?   I have to do some research.   It would be awesome to use a registered receiver, and have a full auto x39 bullpup.
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 10:23:07 PM EDT
[#3]
L 85 bros will want a 20" barrel
Link Posted: 3/17/2024 7:32:45 PM EDT
[#4]
Any more news or ETAs on this product?
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 1:02:47 AM EDT
[#5]
I sent them a message the other day asking when they where planing on releasing it.  This is the response i received.




Hi Jesse,

We’re hard at work scaling production, shooting for end of April having a batch ready to go. We’d like to not do any type of preorder.

Thanks for your interest and patience,
Spencer Aly
Aly and Kaufman LLC
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 10:10:08 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm still watching this while at the same time still waiting for my A3 Tactical Triad kit notification to come in.
Link Posted: 3/22/2024 12:57:43 PM EDT
[#7]
So what BRN-180 Upper configuration is the best one would order for easy integration into this kit?

Link Posted: 3/22/2024 1:04:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
So what BRN-180 Upper configuration is the best one would order for easy integration into this kit?

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If your goal is to make a trailer park L85/SA80-ish rifle, then you probably need the 18.5" BRN180 upper. I think if you use the 16" upper you need to install a stock spacer that they show in a few of the prototype images to keep the OAL up to the right length.
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 10:26:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JsARCLIGHT:
I'm still watching this while at the same time still waiting for my A3 Tactical Triad kit notification to come in.
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I got mine this morning!
Link Posted: 3/23/2024 10:50:53 PM EDT
[#10]
nice, looks like a dedicated lower rather than a kit. too bad that top handguard section isn't removable. but i'm sure it would be simple enough to chop that off to make room for a thermal and a weapon light. i suppose you don't need the handguard at all. those BCM rail covers would probably look nice with the black version of the lower.
Link Posted: 3/24/2024 3:58:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shackleford_R:
nice, looks like a dedicated lower rather than a kit. too bad that top handguard section isn't removable. but i'm sure it would be simple enough to chop that off to make room for a thermal and a weapon light. i suppose you don't need the handguard at all. those BCM rail covers would probably look nice with the black version of the lower.
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The polymer foreend is just an attachment to make it look more like an L85. It uses a regular BRN-180 upper, so it has a top picatinny rail and then MLOK all the way around.
Link Posted: 3/24/2024 8:06:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.






Link Posted: 3/25/2024 2:13:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Id be wearing a welding glove shooting that
Link Posted: 3/25/2024 2:16:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigxCat:
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.


https://i.imgur.com/2AZprnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GihrU1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NQ7q2Jw.jpg

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Kind of reminds me of a Groza
Link Posted: 3/25/2024 7:41:35 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By Rabbit-Slayer:
I sent them a message the other day asking when they where planing on releasing it.  This is the response i received.




Hi Jesse,

We're hard at work scaling production, shooting for end of April having a batch ready to go. We'd like to not do any type of preorder.

Thanks for your interest and patience,
Spencer Aly
Aly and Kaufman LLC
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Oooh, neat!
Originally Posted By BigxCat:
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.


https://i.imgur.com/2AZprnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GihrU1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NQ7q2Jw.jpg

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I can almost feel my hand burning from here.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 6:08:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VTD:
Id be wearing a welding glove shooting that
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I've got some nice leather gloves for any shooting I do, has saved me a few times with this one lol. I'd love for a BRN-180 11.5 upper with a longer handguard, not sure they leave a bit too much barrel exposed.






Link Posted: 3/26/2024 6:47:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigxCat:
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.


https://i.imgur.com/2AZprnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GihrU1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NQ7q2Jw.jpg

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LOP looks excessive for no reason. that grip is way ahead of the magwell. if it were shorter, you could definitely mount that foregip easier
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 9:09:19 PM EDT
[#18]
would the 13.5 or 14.5 BRN-180 uppers work with the kit if an extension - and does it need to meet an AOL requirement that would equate to a longer than 16" barrel?
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:00:37 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By BigxCat:
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.


https://i.imgur.com/2AZprnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GihrU1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NQ7q2Jw.jpg

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Neat - so basically run it like a P90.   Very cool.

I'd be very interested in this with a 12" Grendel BBL.  or a 16" I suppose.

Any accuracy reports?
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:39:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shackleford_R:

LOP looks excessive for no reason. that grip is way ahead of the magwell. if it were shorter, you could definitely mount that foregip easier
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Originally Posted By Shackleford_R:
Originally Posted By BigxCat:
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.


https://i.imgur.com/2AZprnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GihrU1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NQ7q2Jw.jpg


LOP looks excessive for no reason. that grip is way ahead of the magwell. if it were shorter, you could definitely mount that foregip easier

I'm pretty sure the LOP is less than an AUG
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:45:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
would the 13.5 or 14.5 BRN-180 uppers work with the kit if an extension - and does it need to meet an AOL requirement that would equate to a longer than 16" barrel?
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You need an 18" barrel equivalent if not using a stock spacer to achieve 26" OAL.
Link Posted: 3/26/2024 10:46:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:

Neat - so basically run it like a P90.   Very cool.

I'd be very interested in this with a 12" Grendel BBL.  or a 16" I suppose.

Any accuracy reports?
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
Originally Posted By BigxCat:
Enjoying my tester 5.56 10.5" SBR so far, the OAL is the smallest on the market for a 5.56 rifle, shorter than the desert tech micron (even if it had a 10.5 vs 11.5 barrel) and Bushmaster ARM pistol. Trigger is the best I've used on a bullpup. The KNS folding charging handle is really nice and keeps the gun much thinner in bags and cases. Not much handguard room on the 10.5 but thats just the nature of the beast, the larger trigger guard for your thumb and a KAC grip help a lot.


https://i.imgur.com/2AZprnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GihrU1n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NQ7q2Jw.jpg


Neat - so basically run it like a P90.   Very cool.

I'd be very interested in this with a 12" Grendel BBL.  or a 16" I suppose.

Any accuracy reports?

Accuracy should be equivalent to a regular BRN-180 upper
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:38:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shackleford_R:

LOP looks excessive for no reason. that grip is way ahead of the magwell. if it were shorter, you could definitely mount that foregip easier
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LOP is almost the exact same as the AUG, feels comfortable where it's at. Funnily enough they just made a post with comparison on Instagram today.





Link Posted: 3/30/2024 1:35:09 PM EDT
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Found this wooden training rifle online - would help get the details right if anyone was looking to make an accurate SA80 replica:

Training Rifle

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