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Posted: 1/5/2018 11:07:52 AM EDT

Got my stamp back and planning on getting it engraved. What is the best location on the receiver to engrave it? Recommendations?

Posted: 1/5/2018 1:06:50 PM EDT

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Got my receivers from Childer's Guns. He engraved his company info under the trigger guard and my trust info engraved on the bottom under the front trunnion forward of the mag opening.

Posted: 1/6/2018 5:34:08 PM EDT

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I'm going to ask a question that has probably been asked a thousand times, but is it required now to engrave if I'm not selling it?

Sorry for the hijack

Posted: 1/6/2018 5:36:14 PM EDT

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One of mine engraved in front of magwell underneat, another is engraved on left side, opposite manufacturer markings, so it doesnt really stand out.

Posted: 1/6/2018 8:00:24 PM EDT

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Sorry for the hijack

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Yes.

Posted: 1/6/2018 10:55:49 PM EDT

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Sorry for the hijack

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Always has been for NFA firearms.

Posted: 1/6/2018 11:34:19 PM EDT

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Always has been for NFA firearms.

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I'm going to ask a question that has probably been asked a thousand times, but is it required now to engrave if I'm not selling it?

Sorry for the hijack

Always has been for NFA firearms.

I've read on a few NFA lawyer websites that say it didn't have to be engraved if I didn't sell it. It stated that if I did the form 1 that it didn't need to he engraved unless I sold it to someone else.

Edit to say I'm not doubting anyone and I already found a local place to do the engraving on my 2 lowers, I was just curious and had read so many interpretations of it. Thanks to all.

Posted: 1/7/2018 12:49:12 PM EDT

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I've read on a few NFA lawyer websites that say it didn't have to be engraved if I didn't sell it. It stated that if I did the form 1 that it didn't need to he engraved unless I sold it to someone else.

Edit to say I'm not doubting anyone and I already found a local place to do the engraving on my 2 lowers, I was just curious and had read so many interpretations of it. Thanks to all.

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I am not an attorney so this is just my hunch.
That might be SBR’s that you buy already built from CZ or Arsenal for example. The engraving is required if you “build” or assemble it at your house.
I JUST (Friday Jan 5) had my FFL do a Form 1, finger print me and take my lower to be engraved. So,my Quarter Circle10 9mm Lower Receiver that I am going to SBR must have my Name plus City and State that I “built” or assembled it. If I had a gun trust then the name of my gun trust would be engraved instead of my name, city and state. The ATF also requires the letters to a certain height AND DEPTH. So, if you are having it laser engraved then you might not be able to back fill it with paint because it would change the depth of the letters. I am not sure about Cerakote with laser engraving and depth.

Posted: 1/7/2018 1:06:12 PM EDT

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I've read on a few NFA lawyer websites that say it didn't have to be engraved if I didn't sell it. It stated that if I did the form 1 that it didn't need to he engraved unless I sold it to someone else.

Edit to say I'm not doubting anyone and I already found a local place to do the engraving on my 2 lowers, I was just curious and had read so many interpretations of it. Thanks to all.

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There are a few people who keep promoting that opinion, but they are 100% incorrect in their interpretation of the law.

You have to engrave.

Posted: 1/7/2018 1:31:57 PM EDT

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Thanks again guys, and my apologies for the hijack, hated to start a thread that I'm sure has been beat to death. I'm dropping my 2 lowers off this week.

Posted: 1/7/2018 1:52:38 PM EDT

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I am not an attorney so this is just my hunch.
That might be SBR’s that you buy already built from CZ or Arsenal for example. The engraving is required if you “build” or assemble it at your house.
I JUST (Friday Jan 5) had my FFL do a Form 1, finger print me and take my lower to be engraved. So,my Quarter Circle10 9mm Lower Receiver that I am going to SBR must have my Name plus City and State that I “built” or assembled it. If I had a gun trust then the name of my gun trust would be engraved instead of my name, city and state. The ATF also requires the letters to a certain height AND DEPTH. So, if you are having it laser engraved then you might not be able to back fill it with paint because it would change the depth of the letters. I am not sure about Cerakote with laser engraving and depth.

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I've read on a few NFA lawyer websites that say it didn't have to be engraved if I didn't sell it. It stated that if I did the form 1 that it didn't need to he engraved unless I sold it to someone else.

Edit to say I'm not doubting anyone and I already found a local place to do the engraving on my 2 lowers, I was just curious and had read so many interpretations of it. Thanks to all.

I am not an attorney so this is just my hunch.
That might be SBR’s that you buy already built from CZ or Arsenal for example. The engraving is required if you “build” or assemble it at your house.
I JUST (Friday Jan 5) had my FFL do a Form 1, finger print me and take my lower to be engraved. So,my Quarter Circle10 9mm Lower Receiver that I am going to SBR must have my Name plus City and State that I “built” or assembled it. If I had a gun trust then the name of my gun trust would be engraved instead of my name, city and state. The ATF also requires the letters to a certain height AND DEPTH. So, if you are having it laser engraved then you might not be able to back fill it with paint because it would change the depth of the letters. I am not sure about Cerakote with laser engraving and depth.

Just depth. Height is only for serial numbers. .003" deep on all engraved markings.

Posted: 1/7/2018 4:15:36 PM EDT

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I'm confused. I bought a factory sbr Daniel defense mk18. Also a few suppressors. Did paperwork, paid $200, and was advised to just keep papers with it once approved.
Are you guys saying these need engraved? I thought that was an old rule.

Posted: 1/7/2018 4:40:52 PM EDT

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I'm confused. I bought a factory sbr Daniel defense mk18. Also a few suppressors. Did paperwork, paid $200, and was advised to just keep papers with it once approved.
Are you guys saying these need engraved? I thought that was an old rule.

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If you MAKE an NFA item (like an SBR from a title 1 rifle or a home made suppressor), you as the maker need to engrave.

If you bought a factory NFA item on a form 4, it was engraved by the manufacturer and you don't need to engrave anything.

Posted: 1/8/2018 6:04:46 PM EDT

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I just put this up in another thread but it bears posting again here

Posted: 1/9/2018 10:14:26 AM EDT

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I'm confused. I bought a factory sbr Daniel defense mk18. Also a few suppressors. Did paperwork, paid $200, and was advised to just keep papers with it once approved.
Are you guys saying these need engraved? I thought that was an old rule.

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Only the maker of the NFA item needs to engrave it. Your items were already engraved. If you make an NFA item on a Form 1, you are the maker of the NFA item and must engrave it ("maker" is different from "manufacturer" in this context - the manufacturer of, say, a Form 1'd AR lower also has to engrave it with their info, but they didn't make it into an NFA item, you did, so you also have to engrave it).