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Posted: 1/15/2019 10:32:39 PM EDT
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Tomáš gun bump https://i.imgur.com/WmAnKU2.jpg Bonus evo with gangster grip https://i.imgur.com/LXDZHwR.jpg |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 10:53:26 PM EDT
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The rail is on the upper. You probably know this, but it'll need to be registered an NFA item to use a VFG. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where can i get a railed upper? |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:19:32 PM EDT
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How to get gangsta grip? Actually i want to mount a laser there. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:35:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a surplus grip and mill out the middle bit to jam a cheap 1913 riser mount in. (Yes, I am become bubba) |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:36:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Czechpoint usa occasionally stocks them. I ended up finding a barreled upper to get threaded and JB welded a rail segment on |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:19:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuuuu.. i just ordered a threaded bbl upper. Now i need a railed and threaded bbk upper.... how did you jb weld it? With my dremel I ground the bottom of an mlok rail segment mostly flat kinda. Then I sanded under the barrel to clear the paint and rough up the surface to help the bond 
Mixed the glue and taped it in place for a day 
It's not perfect but it works so far 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 1:29:00 AM EDT
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The Feinstein Project approves.
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Posted: 1/18/2019 4:20:18 PM EDT
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Anyone reloading for their Skorpion?
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Posted: 1/18/2019 9:59:24 PM EDT
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Anyone reloading for their Skorpion? |
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Posted: 3/3/2019 10:30:10 AM EDT
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How are the 22 uppers? Anyone with a lot of rounds through one and any issues?
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Posted: 3/4/2019 8:11:57 PM EDT
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Have they started selling the railed 22lr uppers? Also, did they ever say if they plan on also having a railed 32acp upper? Because that is what i want, a threaded and railed 32acp pistol to SBR.
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Posted: 3/6/2019 10:10:48 PM EDT
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Have they started selling the railed 22lr uppers? Also, did they ever say if they plan on also having a railed 32acp upper? Because that is what i want, a threaded and railed 32acp pistol to SBR. 
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Posted: 3/12/2019 12:15:57 PM EDT
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I didn't know I needed a vz.61 before I read this thread, but apparently I do. The idea of a lightweight, accurate, quiet .32 ACP braced pistol with a can appeals to me.
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Posted: 3/13/2019 4:59:07 PM EDT
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I was going to get a Evo, but now for some odd reason I want one of these even more. What have you done to me?
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Posted: 3/16/2019 12:46:36 AM EDT
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Arfcom rules demand you get both.
The Vz 61 can be a good Form 1 project while the Evo will allow you to blow off steam and waiting frustrations with lots of good old cheap 9x19 consumed in the process. |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 3:35:49 PM EDT
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Arfcom rules demand you get both.
The Vz 61 can be a good Form 1 project while the Evo will allow you to blow off steam and waiting frustrations with lots of good old cheap 9x19 consumed in the process. |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 8:20:49 PM EDT
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I never really considered buying a Vz 61 until I saw this thread, but I have to say this is my new favorite range gun. Doubt I would ever use it for anything serious due to the effectiveness of .32 but it suppresses so well with no recoil whatsoever and is the perfect gun for new shooters. Highly recommend the brace and enhanced charging handle from Custom Smith. I only wish there were mags bigger than 20 rounds available!
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Posted: 3/18/2019 7:24:23 AM EDT
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Wow, nice Skorpion set up. I have a Shockwave brace on mine, and can't beat the feel of it once on the, err, wrist! Yeah, wrist!. But it would be nice having a folding aspect. Tried using the SFU folding stock adapter on mine, but without a way to lock the indexing of the adapter and tube to the back of it, it just spun around after a few rounds.
How do you like the extended charging handle? As for the round, they make them in .380, and those models feed all USA rounds (while my .32 ACP only worked with Euro rounds), including hollow points. While not my first pick, a shorty 380 with hollow points and a 20 round mag is all that you should need. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 8:57:18 AM EDT
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9x18 is nothing to scoff at either
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Posted: 3/18/2019 1:15:59 PM EDT
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Wow, nice Skorpion set up. I have a Shockwave brace on mine, and can't beat the feel of it once on the, err, wrist! Yeah, wrist!. But it would be nice having a folding aspect. Tried using the SFU folding stock adapter on mine, but without a way to lock the indexing of the adapter and tube to the back of it, it just spun around after a few rounds. How do you like the extended charging handle? As for the round, they make them in .380, and those models feed all USA rounds (while my .32 ACP only worked with Euro rounds), including hollow points. While not my first pick, a shorty 380 with hollow points and a 20 round mag is all that you should need. I honestly just got this one in .32 because I knew it would suppress well but I am serious considering buying another in .380 or 9x18 as they would make a better self defense weapon that could easily be stored in a backpack or the center console of a truck. Gives more firepower and better stability compared to a normal pistol. I am really just blown away by how compact these things are. I had never seen one in person before buying mine and thought it would be bigger. Pleasantly surprised by the compactness and weight of them. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 4:37:23 PM EDT
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I appreciate it. I really like the extended charging handle. I have to mentally make sure I remember that it is reciprocating but it makes it super easy to charge it compared to the small charging nubs. I honestly just got this one in .32 because I knew it would suppress well but I am serious considering buying another in .380 or 9x18 as they would make a better self defense weapon that could easily be stored in a backpack or the center console of a truck. Gives more firepower and better stability compared to a normal pistol. I am really just blown away by how compact these things are. I had never seen one in person before buying mine and thought it would be bigger. Pleasantly surprised by the compactness and weight of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, nice Skorpion set up. I have a Shockwave brace on mine, and can't beat the feel of it once on the, err, wrist! Yeah, wrist!. But it would be nice having a folding aspect. Tried using the SFU folding stock adapter on mine, but without a way to lock the indexing of the adapter and tube to the back of it, it just spun around after a few rounds. How do you like the extended charging handle? As for the round, they make them in .380, and those models feed all USA rounds (while my .32 ACP only worked with Euro rounds), including hollow points. While not my first pick, a shorty 380 with hollow points and a 20 round mag is all that you should need. I honestly just got this one in .32 because I knew it would suppress well but I am serious considering buying another in .380 or 9x18 as they would make a better self defense weapon that could easily be stored in a backpack or the center console of a truck. Gives more firepower and better stability compared to a normal pistol. I am really just blown away by how compact these things are. I had never seen one in person before buying mine and thought it would be bigger. Pleasantly surprised by the compactness and weight of them.
I considered the same lethality argument but in the end I figured that the difference between .32 ACP and .380 is so small that I'd prefer the better suppressability and lessened recoil over a minor bump in stopping power. There are good reasons that the original was kept in .32 ACP instead of 9x18 for military issue despite the latter's ubiquity in Warsaw-Pact logistics trails. I also have a feeling the .32 ACP does better over long distances that the heavier/wider 9mm rounds, far better than most would assume. The original was capable of some impressive accuracy despite the short barrel and less-than-ideal sights. "In military testing, it was found capable of putting 20 rounds into an 8.66 inch circle at 100 meters." (source) |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 8:03:42 PM EDT
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Don't forget that the .380/9x18 uppers can interchange as they are on the same frame, and you can get a .22lr upper for that same frame. You know, just in case you thought you'd escape this with some money still in your bank account
I considered the same lethality argument but in the end I figured that the difference between .32 ACP and .380 is so small that I'd prefer the better suppressability and lessened recoil over a minor bump in stopping power. There are good reasons that the original was kept in .32 ACP instead of 9x18 for military issue despite the latter's ubiquity in Warsaw-Pact logistics trails. I also have a feeling the .32 ACP does better over long distances that the heavier/wider 9mm rounds, far better than most would assume. The original was capable of some impressive accuracy despite the short barrel and less-than-ideal sights. "In military testing, it was found capable of putting 20 rounds into an 8.66 inch circle at 100 meters." (source) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, nice Skorpion set up. I have a Shockwave brace on mine, and can't beat the feel of it once on the, err, wrist! Yeah, wrist!. But it would be nice having a folding aspect. Tried using the SFU folding stock adapter on mine, but without a way to lock the indexing of the adapter and tube to the back of it, it just spun around after a few rounds. How do you like the extended charging handle? As for the round, they make them in .380, and those models feed all USA rounds (while my .32 ACP only worked with Euro rounds), including hollow points. While not my first pick, a shorty 380 with hollow points and a 20 round mag is all that you should need. I honestly just got this one in .32 because I knew it would suppress well but I am serious considering buying another in .380 or 9x18 as they would make a better self defense weapon that could easily be stored in a backpack or the center console of a truck. Gives more firepower and better stability compared to a normal pistol. I am really just blown away by how compact these things are. I had never seen one in person before buying mine and thought it would be bigger. Pleasantly surprised by the compactness and weight of them.
I considered the same lethality argument but in the end I figured that the difference between .32 ACP and .380 is so small that I'd prefer the better suppressability and lessened recoil over a minor bump in stopping power. There are good reasons that the original was kept in .32 ACP instead of 9x18 for military issue despite the latter's ubiquity in Warsaw-Pact logistics trails. I also have a feeling the .32 ACP does better over long distances that the heavier/wider 9mm rounds, far better than most would assume. The original was capable of some impressive accuracy despite the short barrel and less-than-ideal sights. "In military testing, it was found capable of putting 20 rounds into an 8.66 inch circle at 100 meters." (source) Also, good to know about the ability to swap uppers, wouldn't mind have one of each of them and it is only money right
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:09:03 PM EDT
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Who sells the .22 conversions? I'd like to get one.... Thanks in advance Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The threaded uppers are supposed to be released within a week or so. I'm just hoping they aren't big money. My total guess...they are probably going to be around $275 for just the threaded barrel and upper receiver, no bolt. Also, anyone tig welded mags to make a 30rdr?? |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:49:20 PM EDT
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Do you guys think it would be possible to make a top charging handle that would screw into the bolt and have a hole in it for seeing sights through like the mac10? Would require milling top of upper and maybe timing so the hole lined up.
Then the side cocking nubs could be removed? Or are they necessary? How is port noise and gas blowback?? |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 3:43:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2019 6:14:06 PM EDT
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I need to finally attach a stock to my Vz61 as I've had form 1 approved for nearly a year! Is there someone who performs this service that can attach the stock to the receiver more like the original instead of using the attachment plate? I guess they'd need to dovetail the rear?
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Posted: 4/18/2019 11:42:42 AM EDT
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If you get the stock adapter and put the Kak shockwave tube on could you just put a regular m4 buttstock on that. Or even better would an ar buffer tube fit the adapter then just put on an adjustable stock. I’m thinking of getting one of these and wonder why nobody is doing this. It’s probably the wrong size. If you search “vz61 modern stock” on you tube there’s a guy with a sweet side folding setup but it’s not in English and who knows what parts he’s using. I just don’t dig the wire or the armbrace I need a cool looking solid stock.
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Posted: 4/19/2019 10:54:02 AM EDT
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If you get the stock adapter and put the Kak shockwave tube on could you just put a regular m4 buttstock on that. Or even better would an ar buffer tube fit the adapter then just put on an adjustable stock. I’m thinking of getting one of these and wonder why nobody is doing this. It’s probably the wrong size. If you search “vz61 modern stock” on you tube there’s a guy with a sweet side folding setup but it’s not in English and who knows what parts he’s using. I just don’t dig the wire or the armbrace I need a cool looking solid stock. ETA: an AR buffer tube really isn't all that great on these IMO. It works great for shooting but it's just so bulky |
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Posted: 4/20/2019 4:58:22 PM EDT
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Got my first ever form 1 back on Thursday and assembled it on Friday. I like the extended charging handle, but I'll need to be careful with my support hand's thumb!
Edit - ok, weird, if I edit the post and preview, I see the image just fine. But it's just a link when I look at the thread. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 3:15:42 PM EDT
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Got my first ever form 1 back on Thursday and assembled it on Friday. I like the extended charging handle, but I'll need to be careful with my support hand's thumb! https://i.imgur.com/5MZvg5wh.jpg Edit - ok, weird, if I edit the post and preview, I see the image just fine. But it's just a link when I look at the thread. 
How long did the efile Form 1 take? I just submitted two eform Form 1's last week - one is for a Vz61 SBR. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 4:05:57 PM EDT
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I found this while looking at other items:
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1291430 Never done any business with them, just noticed the mags... Steve |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 11:39:01 AM EDT
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I found this while looking at other items: https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1291430 Never done any business with them, just noticed the mags... Steve |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 12:12:58 PM EDT
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I need to finally attach a stock to my Vz61 as I've had form 1 approved for nearly a year! Is there someone who performs this service that can attach the stock to the receiver more like the original instead of using the attachment plate? I guess they'd need to dovetail the rear? There was a run of "correct" receivers done by a company called RT Mfg, but they are near impossible to find. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 9:08:34 PM EDT
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midwayusa has Geco 32 acp on sale for .15/rd shipped right now.
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Posted: 4/26/2019 12:21:45 AM EDT
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How long did the efile Form 1 take? I just submitted two eform Form 1's last week - one is for a Vz61 SBR. |
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Posted: 4/26/2019 4:57:14 AM EDT
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midwayusa has Geco 32 acp on sale for .15/rd shipped right now. |
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Posted: 4/26/2019 10:03:03 PM EDT
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midwayusa has Geco 32 acp on sale for .15/rd shipped right now. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 6:29:03 AM EDT
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midwayusa has Geco 32 acp on sale for .15/rd shipped right now. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 8:18:44 AM EDT
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Link? I can't seem to find it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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midwayusa has Geco 32 acp on sale for .15/rd shipped right now. Looks like it might be sold out now. I ordered a case last night. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 9:35:41 AM EDT
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Thanks.
Wow! $7/box I would have ordered 87 cases. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs this brace literally just a original wire stock with a tail hook attached?
I tried looking on the Tech Smith MFG site and cannot find it listed. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 11:48:45 PM EDT
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midwayusa has Geco 32 acp on sale for .15/rd shipped right now. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 8:37:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you but now I hate you, I ordered 100 boxes, that is 5 cases for the mathematically challenged. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 10:46:09 PM EDT
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I never really considered buying a Vz 61 until I saw this thread, but I have to say this is my new favorite range gun. Doubt I would ever use it for anything serious due to the effectiveness of .32 but it suppresses so well with no recoil whatsoever and is the perfect gun for new shooters. Highly recommend the brace and enhanced charging handle from Custom Smith. I only wish there were mags bigger than 20 rounds available! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/342261/20190317_181441_jpg-881549.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/342261/20190317_181416_jpg-881550.JPG |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 12:38:56 AM EDT
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When did you place the order? I looked for a while yesterday and it was OOS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Thank you but now I hate you, I ordered 100 boxes, that is 5 cases for the mathematically challenged. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 8:02:25 AM EDT
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Honestly this stock is awesome to see as it is very close to my design. How does it feel when you use it. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 8:36:48 AM EDT
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Honestly this stock is awesome to see as it is very close to my design. How does it feel when you use it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never really considered buying a Vz 61 until I saw this thread, but I have to say this is my new favorite range gun. Doubt I would ever use it for anything serious due to the effectiveness of .32 but it suppresses so well with no recoil whatsoever and is the perfect gun for new shooters. Highly recommend the brace and enhanced charging handle from Custom Smith. I only wish there were mags bigger than 20 rounds available! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/342261/20190317_181441_jpg-881549.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/342261/20190317_181416_jpg-881550.JPG ). Mine has a flex issue when you put pressure on the brace that causes the POI to drop my several inches. When I emailed techsmith about it the owner told me he'd never had that complaint/issue but custom printed me a new mount with a third bolt hole free of charge so no complaints there. This was back in like January and I just dropped it off at the Smith for a drill and tap Saturday
Other than that it's pretty awesome, especially how you can still stuff it in its original holster ETA: didn't see his update on the sight picture
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Posted: 4/30/2019 5:08:08 PM EDT
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Got my first ever form 1 back on Thursday and assembled it on Friday. I like the extended charging handle, but I'll need to be careful with my support hand's thumb! https://i.imgur.com/5MZvg5wh.jpg Edit - ok, weird, if I edit the post and preview, I see the image just fine. But it's just a link when I look at the thread. Could you just not install the other side charging handle button? Please let me know |
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Posted: 4/30/2019 9:55:00 PM EDT
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Guess it’s time to subscribe to this thread.
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