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Got mine. . As far as I can tell the barrel is parked and the aluminum receiver is anodized. The shotgun is finished nicely and i love the sites. I can't wait to get it it the range and give it a good workout.
My only complaint is the lack of flexible sling mounting options but I think that can be remedied with time. |
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I finaly dug out my old three point Giles Sling Now i am in bussness.
Wilderness Giles Slings I would still call and talk to them for the 930 though. |
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I needed more cheek weld height so I added a Blackhawk stock pad with the shotshell holder and pouch it was then good to go with the ghost rings. But after adding a Aimpoint ML2 I had lying around, I really liked it! Have 600 rounds through it so far. Well worth the money. Need to figure out a single point sling mount though for between the receiver and stock.
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Well, I just picked up mine last night. I bought it from my favorite local dealer for $485, so I think I got a pretty good deal on it. When I got home, I disassembled and cleaned it as I always do with new gun purchases and am ready to head out to the range with it this morning.
I have one question. When I disassembled the gas system I found that the gas piston and seal ring which are depicted apart and as two parts in the owner's manual seem to be one piece on this shotgun. I mean I believe what is the seal ring is there at the front of the gas piston, but it appears to be a "captured" part. It is sitting just inside the front of the gas piston and I can see that it is a split ring with a beveled/angled surface facing outward and I can spin it, but I can't pull it out. In fact, I think I would have to pry it out to remove it. Is this the seal ring or is mine missing? Thanks! |
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Never mind. I figured out that the exploded drawing in the manual reference the positioning of the seal ring has absolutely nothing to do with reality because the seal ring is actually inside the barrel guide tube. I unscrewed the hollow cap on the forward end of the guide tube and found the seal ring located under the heavy spring which you can partially see through the cuts in the guide tube. I would NOT recommend doing this as I had one HELL of a time getting this assembly back together. It takes a LOT of "umph" to compress that heavy spring. Anyway, I finally got everything back together and got to the range. The good news is that the shotgun performed flawlessly with both standard and low recoil "tactical" 00 buckshot shells.
I believe this Mossberg 930 SPX is a keeper! |
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Nice review of the 930 SPX in the January 2008 Shooting Times by Greg Rodriguez while attending a Blackwater shotgun course.
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That makes perfect sense. |
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what was the overall verdict on the SPX? ar-jedi |
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Rodriguez stated in his closing comments that, among other things, "The new Mossberg 930 SPX passed with flying colors" and also "The SPX ran like a top with everything from slugs to light field loads, despite the fact that I didn't clean it once during the two-day course." Overall his comments regarding the SPX were very positive. His only negative comments were that he would prefer a slimmer forearm and a shorter buttstock (to better accommodate body armor). |
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I looked at the review yesterday.
It is humorous that they didn't have the same problem Farnam did when he tried to run the 930 SPX through his course. As for slimming the forearm down, I don't how that could happen. The thing is already pretty thin as it is. It stays pretty close to the insides as it is. |
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Interesting - that's the second article that mentions a Mossberg 930 SPX and a Blackwater course...this one does the same, though it is more on shotgun tactics than the 930...still, a good sign that the 930 is standing up to hard usage. Anyone know of any LEO or military use, or is the system too new?
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Yeah they all seem to be from a new Mossberg/Blackwater "partnership". They both refer to a: Mossberg/Blackwater “Fear No Evil” tactical shotgun course or First Annual something.
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I wish it had choke tubes. I use my benelli M1 for everthing from shooting steel to turky and deer hunting.
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With or without choke tubes, an 18.5"-barreled scattergun will never be the best choice for use as an "all-around" shotgun.
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And it is easy enough to buy one of the other 930 barrels that is what you want. They have the HD/deer or waterfowl combos.
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Last email I got from Choate was that the PG stock and the enlarged bolt handle were both expected by late February.
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Got mine last week at Dick's...Didn't notice until I went to zero it with slugs and found my front sight is canted to the right. It is canted so much that I had to adjust my rear peep all the way to the right just to get it on paper at 50 yards. That SOB that was building AK's in Romania must have immigrated to the U.S. and is now working at Mossberg. I am going to call Mossberg tomarrow.
Other than that...I like it. |
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Also....Mine didn't work all that well with light 3 dram loads. Wouldn't cycle.
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I'm glad you posted this. I went to Dick's today and noticed the one model they had on hand had the exact same problem as yours. It was off by several degrees and was very noticeable. |
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When I called their Customer Service #, the guy didn't seemed surprised when I told him the problem.
I shipped the barrel on Tuesday to have it fixed . I'll post again as soon as I get it back. |
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Nice , mine is getting DesertTan , as we speak. Does your red dot clear the front sight??? Thanks |
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Very nice. Please describe your light and sling set-up. Thanks in advance. |
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I was considering a similar set-up on a 500 Cruiser, but AR15-instinctively thought of putting the Docter in front of the LPA on the rail, even though it doesn't look like it'd co-witness anyway?... |
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It kinda co-witness. There is a notch in my JPoint that lines up perfectly with the sights and the red dot at the bottom of the window. The light is attached to a tri-rail that mounts on the magazine tube which I have a 660 Surefire with tape switch. CSF |
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How difficult do you think it would be to install tritium sights?
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They are user level swaps: M1 Adjustable front sights to be used together with SG ramps. Its height adjustment is approximately 4mm (.157"). Available in 3 styles: M1B- White Dot M1T- Tritium Dot M1F- Red Fiber Optic GHOST RINGS Optional ghost rings. These are inter-changeable with BAR11R and BAR11W. D4- Standard D2- Twin Dot D5- Green Fiber Optic D3- Tritium Presision Sales I believe Brownells has them also. I have a tritium front on one of the 500's barrels. The more I shoot the SPX, however, I find the Red Fiber Optic meets my needs better. I also prefer the plain ghost ring rear. |
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Thanks DMR!
The SPX is becoming more and more appealing. I would keep the fiber optic, but I have used them in low light and they tend to become as dark as normal sights. |
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That's what I don't like about them. I'm probably going to switch them out for tritiums. I tried them with my TLR light and it will make the front glow under very limited situations, but I don't like the dark front.
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3Gun Gear Side Saddle. I should keep me from worring about pinching the reciever. Something I have done on my 11-87. I think Remington is using something like this on the 870 MCS.
You Tube Vid of the AMU using a 3 Gun Gear Side Saddle: Army Pro Tips: SSG Johnson, PFC Horner Shotgun/Rifle Setup |
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'Crusier Ready' does not include a safety that is 'on' but rather one that is 'off'...firing procedure is to rack action and pull trigger. I agree one should know his / her equipment but what John speaks of is a drill developed for pump shotguns that are carried in vehicles and / or used by several different shooters, and not autos...every auto design is slightly different. For HD use it is probably a better bet to simply chamber a round, load up the magazine and be very careful with the gun, IMO.
I have never been a Mossberg fan and have never owned one...nor frankly do I want to...but I do not see this as a big problem with the M930...like all 'quirks' it can be gotten around with some training as DMR has said. If ths shotgun holds up under heavy use I think it will be a winner. |
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Small point but from Stress FireII, Massad Ayoob:
Both descriptions are based on a pump action shotgun and have some quirks when translated to a semi shotgun. Safety on vs. off is also a carry over from the Remingtons. They can only be on safe if cocked. The Mossberg can be on safe with the hammer down. That said disqualifying a shotgun for how you go to from a round in the chamber to, cruiser ready is interesting. To me it is largely a rangism. Once your shotgun is loaded in a actually defensive situation I believe that you will be more likely to un-load then put your shotgun back in cruiser ready once the situation is over. If you did not fire the shotgun then perhaps you would swap it back to cruiser ready. Still not a drill that holds great importance to me. |
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Thanks DMR for getting Choate to make the +1 tube.
Picked this gun up at Dick's other night, now I can use it legally in NJ with the +1 tube installed. |
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From John Farnam:
19 Nov 07 Mossberg M930, Autoloading Shotgun: During an Urban Rifle/Shotgun Course in OH last weekend, a student brought a brand-new copy of Mossberg's M930 Shotgun. It is the first one I've had a chance to actually use and observe on a range. Bottom line: The 930 is unusable for our purposes. Problems became apparent immediately as the student attempted to manipulate the gun. Once loaded, the entire magazine tube must be completely voided and then subsequently recharged all over again, in order to return the shotgun to Transport Mode (magazine tube charged, hammer down on an empty chamber, manual safety "off," (Transport Mode is often referred to as "Cruiser-Ready"). In addition, when attempting the load the gun, it continually double-stacked, causing two rounds to be released from the magazine tube into the receiver, simultaneously. After ten, frustrating minutes of attempting to come up with a viable handling procedure, we gave up and issued the student a Remington 870, which, of course, ran fine for the duration. Some years ago, Mossberg produced another autoloading shotgun, dubbed the "Jungle Gun." Now long-since out of production, we had nothing but trouble with it too. Mossberg is surely capable of producing functional shotguns, but this new 930 is utterly unsuitable for our purposes. Again, when making ostensible " police" shotguns, they need to talk with someone other than trap shooters! Say "What??" I don't keep my 9200A1 Jungle Gun at the ready merely due to the fact my M500 has a SureFire Weapon Light mounted on it. I've never felt I had a "safety issue" with my 9200. What DMR posted seems dead on for Cruiser Ready. My 9200a1 is only a little behind my 590a1 for grabbing when the zombies come to eat my flesh. BK If this is built and runs like my Jungle Gun, I gotta get me one of dem! |
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Farnam screwed the pooch on this one. I don't know how he couldn't get the 930SPX into cruiser ready unless he didn't want to.
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There ya go. Mossy aint cool or hip. BK |
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There's a lot of that. I really liked reading how Mossy "hasn't learned the lesson from the Jungle Gun." Of course the person that said that hasn't bothered to say what the problems were. The 930SPX is just a 930 with some added features. The 930 has been in use for quite a while without garnering a bad reputation. It is the same shotgun, with the same operation. It is not a new system. I think this is where Mossberg did a great job of adapting an existing and proven platform. And the other side of this is that it is very hard to find a 930SPX. My dealer was telling me today that he has been trying to find one for his brother and nobody has one in stock. |
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I find it really incredible that someone like this Farnam person would compromise his integrity with such a transparently biased write-up, surely deliberate as you suggested, which makes it even more egregious. The general bad-mouthing of Mossbergs without supportable data persists, kind of like Chevy v. Ford opinions -- seen it here countless times. I challenged that particular poster above to cowboy up some facts for his generalized, un-specific, dismissive comments about 590A1s and the SPX here -- nothing yet... In service, +20 years ago and now, no matter how badly abused, these guns just plain work! Interestingly, I generally don't read unsupported bad-mouthing of Rems, just the same complaints about the safety location and loading operation differences. Rem guns are solid and no one seems to argue otherwise -- although I've never used one, I'm quite happy not to given my Mossies' unblemished performance. Someday, I may buy one just to have one, but for now, I always seem to find better reasons to spend the money. On that note, I'm still waiting on an SPX from my dealer, going on two weeks now. |
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Me, personally, I would not SBS a SemiAuto. There is such a wide variety of shells out here for them. I'd hate to think I could only use Brand X and Size Y to make sure my weapon was functional all of the time.
I'm positive you will have to play with the gas system to make this reliable at any rate. My 9200A1 Jungle Gun eats nearly anything I force into its magazine. BK |
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Currently a factory SBS is not in the cards. Your gas system would need to be tuned to make it work. I doubt if anyone has done the work yet to figure it out. A firm we work with is looking at custom mods for the 930 now. Late this year they may become availible depending on how it goes. The SBS is not in our play book. We have some good comments from some of the 930 power users already. We shall see what develops And to take a pointer from MagPul, when something is ready to release, it will be released. Until, then I don't know a thing. |
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Are you referring to that large east coast PD that was supposed go public last week or before on its selection of Mossberg? |
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Making Mods to the 930 actualy.
Looks like the East Coast PD news release is going to go out at SHOT. |
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As soon as my dealer finds me my 930, I'll allow myself to get REAL interested in those mods real fast... As for SHOT, it seems like the entire shooting-related world revolves around it and nothing at all happens in retail anywhere until its over! Sucks when you need to order stuff and aren't at the SHOW. |
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I think you'll like the SPX. A lot. DMR: I got the light today. |
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Check out GTDIST.COM in Austin,Tx They have them in stock, i bought mine there 1-09-2008.
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