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Posted: 9/16/2018 9:15:24 AM EDT
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Some subsonic ammo testing with the Rattler and the SRD762QD-Ti https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/15/300blk-shootout/ |
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Posted: 9/16/2018 2:38:59 PM EDT
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So is the Ti sig762QD ok to use on the rattler? I was told even with subs it wasn’t ideal and to get a steel can due to excessive wear. Anybody have input?
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Posted: 9/16/2018 2:52:12 PM EDT
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So is the Ti sig762QD ok to use on the rattler? I was told even with subs it wasn’t ideal and to get a steel can due to excessive wear. Anybody have input? |
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Posted: 9/16/2018 7:46:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s ok to use - will the steel cans hold up longer than the Ti on a Rattler, absolutely. I use a SRD762-QD on mine |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 12:15:21 PM EDT
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I have a Full Nelson, an Omega 9k and A SDN6
Sico said no joy with 9k on Rattler, AAC said same for SDN6 Q said they have no barrel length restrictions and to shoot the hell out of it. So I have been. Holy #$%, it's quiet. So quiet, I can live with the added length 
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Posted: 9/17/2018 12:33:06 PM EDT
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I have a Full Nelson, an Omega 9k and A SDN6 Sico said no joy with 9k on Rattler, AAC said same for SDN6 Q said they have no barrel length restrictions and to shoot the hell out of it. So I have been. Holy #$%, it's quiet. So quiet, I can live with the added length I’ve shot all 3 on my Rattler 
The Q stuff is very quiet. |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 3:11:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have all 3 of those, as well (Pre-Remington SDN6). I've shot all 3 on my Rattler
The Q stuff is very quiet. I've got one of those. The Saker 762 was okay. |
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Posted: 9/17/2018 4:35:40 PM EDT
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Sico told me no problem using the 9K or Octane .45 with subs. It works quite well actually. I'm waiting on my Sandman K.
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I have a Full Nelson, an Omega 9k and A SDN6 Sico said no joy with 9k on Rattler, AAC said same for SDN6 Q said they have no barrel length restrictions and to shoot the hell out of it. So I have been. Holy #$%, it's quiet. So quiet, I can live with the added length |
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Posted: 9/18/2018 2:24:07 PM EDT
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How well did the SDN6 do? I've got one of those. The Saker 762 was okay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I have all 3 of those, as well (Pre-Remington SDN6). I've shot all 3 on my Rattler
The Q stuff is very quiet. I've got one of those. The Saker 762 was okay. |
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Posted: 9/18/2018 2:41:24 PM EDT
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Mine's circa 2010, I think.
It has less POI shift than my Sakers, but more blowback than my 556k on my MCX. Go figure. |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 2:07:19 PM EDT
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@coregon Do you have a part number for the complete Rattler kit? Sig CS seems to be a little clueless. UAMCX-5B-300-BLK-TAP |
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Posted: 9/24/2018 7:46:31 PM EDT
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Is MI the only option for extended handguards? Does SIG plan to make one as well?
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Posted: 10/7/2018 1:56:53 PM EDT
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Quick question for the Form 1 SBR crowd: The Model is ‘Sig MCX’ or ‘MCX’?
Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:25:00 PM EDT
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Form 1 filed via Eforms.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 7:13:10 PM EDT
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Quick question for the Form 1 SBR crowd: The Model is ‘Sig MCX’ or ‘MCX’? Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/10/2018 7:58:29 PM EDT
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I own a Rattler and have been generally impressed with its performance, but the trigger is pretty average. Mine was the version that came with the Magpul grip. I was at a local shop Saturday and handled one with the “Prototype” style grip and noticed the weight of the gun was different, the finish blacker and the trigger was outstanding, nearly as good as my Geissle SG2 in my Daniel Defense. Has anyone noticed an incremental change in the Rattler? Thinking of trading mine for the new one.
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Posted: 10/16/2018 10:26:49 PM EDT
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Since from the beginning, this Rattler has been a gun I didn't really need, but looked interesting, I decided to try something new for optics. I went with a dual illuminated RMR, with the green triangle reticle, in this mount I stumbled across. The mount is the ANVL UKON by ANR designs. It incorporates a set of sights. The front is a standard AR post, with a pistol style rear. This should go well with the PDW theme of the Rattler, and I pretty much see it as a 50 meter and in gun. If nothing else, I can use the RMR on another gun, if it doesn't work out here. https://i.imgur.com/AuNLpzX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PLB6Q9B.jpg And.. My trigger is very good. It has the super small grip. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 8:36:29 AM EDT
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I own a Rattler and have been generally impressed with its performance, but the trigger is pretty average. Mine was the version that came with the Magpul grip. I was at a local shop Saturday and handled one with the “Prototype” style grip and noticed the weight of the gun was different, the finish blacker and the trigger was outstanding, nearly as good as my Geissle SG2 in my Daniel Defense. Has anyone noticed an incremental change in the Rattler? Thinking of trading mine for the new one. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 9:03:55 AM EDT
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Anyone running the Geissele trigger in their Rattler? Worth the upgrade?
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Posted: 10/18/2018 12:57:40 PM EDT
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My Magpul grip has a pretty meh GI feel. It is heavy, with a bit of grit. I know it’s not the point of the gun, but it is a very mechanically accurate firearm, I’d appreciate if my trigger accentuated that strength rather than hindering it, especially at their price point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I own a Rattler and have been generally impressed with its performance, but the trigger is pretty average. Mine was the version that came with the Magpul grip. I was at a local shop Saturday and handled one with the “Prototype” style grip and noticed the weight of the gun was different, the finish blacker and the trigger was outstanding, nearly as good as my Geissle SG2 in my Daniel Defense. Has anyone noticed an incremental change in the Rattler? Thinking of trading mine for the new one. |
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Posted: 10/18/2018 1:33:14 PM EDT
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Anyone running the Geissele trigger in their Rattler? Worth the upgrade? |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 12:33:00 AM EDT
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Well, I ended up selling my early Rattler and getting the newer one. After dry-firing, I can say the trigger is much better, no creep and a clean 4-5 lb. break. It is very 2-stage like. I am going to break it down and have a look see at what's going on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I own a Rattler and have been generally impressed with its performance, but the trigger is pretty average. Mine was the version that came with the Magpul grip. I was at a local shop Saturday and handled one with the “Prototype” style grip and noticed the weight of the gun was different, the finish blacker and the trigger was outstanding, nearly as good as my Geissle SG2 in my Daniel Defense. Has anyone noticed an incremental change in the Rattler? Thinking of trading mine for the new one.
Not a big deal but it’d be nice to not be left wanting aftermarket stuff on such an expensive rifle. |
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Posted: 10/19/2018 5:22:03 PM EDT
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Sounds like I may have fell victim for one of Sigs notorious rolling revisions
Not a big deal but it’s be nice to not be left wanting aftermarket stuff on such an expensive rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I own a Rattler and have been generally impressed with its performance, but the trigger is pretty average. Mine was the version that came with the Magpul grip. I was at a local shop Saturday and handled one with the “Prototype” style grip and noticed the weight of the gun was different, the finish blacker and the trigger was outstanding, nearly as good as my Geissle SG2 in my Daniel Defense. Has anyone noticed an incremental change in the Rattler? Thinking of trading mine for the new one.
Not a big deal but it’s be nice to not be left wanting aftermarket stuff on such an expensive rifle. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 2:06:54 PM EDT
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The brace is solid but defeats the small footprint. ANVL is on point. Need to make a choice on the muzzle. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 6:35:07 PM EDT
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I am interested in buying a Rattler and have seen a few posts of different grips, trigger groups and finishes. Is there any way to tell if you are getting a newer gun ? I will likely be buying from a out of state dealer, looking for what I should ask about the Rattler they have in stock.
Thanks ! |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 11:20:22 PM EDT
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I am interested in buying a Rattler and have seen a few posts of different grips, trigger groups and finishes. Is there any way to tell if you are getting a newer gun ? I will likely be buying from a out of state dealer, looking for what I should ask about the Rattler they have in stock. Thanks ! |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 11:54:34 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info, I plan on calling to see what they actually have. A few of the pics online were of the newer style grip and flip up sights.
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Posted: 10/30/2018 8:24:41 PM EDT
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So when is the 5.56 version going to be available?
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Posted: 10/31/2018 1:10:30 PM EDT
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Form 4 for my can finally cleared today:
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Posted: 10/31/2018 1:16:38 PM EDT
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Form 4 for my can finally cleared today: https://i.imgur.com/p1blY2Z.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PI4sfsP.jpg
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Posted: 10/31/2018 1:41:54 PM EDT
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Form 1 cleared. Awaiting stock arrival.
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Posted: 10/31/2018 1:46:40 PM EDT
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Needs an integral suppressor...also what's the ballistics like shooting say M193 from a 5.5" barrel?
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Posted: 10/31/2018 1:50:41 PM EDT
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Needs an integral suppressor...also what's the ballistics like shooting say M193 from a 5.5" barrel? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 1:50:53 PM EDT
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So when is the 5.56 version going to be available?
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:02:30 PM EDT
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So when is the 5.56 version going to be available? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 10:25:46 PM EDT
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That’s what ear pro is for.
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Posted: 11/6/2018 3:34:57 PM EDT
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Part 1 of the SRD762QD-Ti review: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/03/suppressors-allowed/ |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 10:55:02 AM EDT
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What is the difference between the Sig Minimalist stock and the Minimalist Plus stock? In photos they look identical. Are the LOPs different?
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Posted: 11/21/2018 2:06:43 AM EDT
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What is the difference between the Sig Minimalist stock and the Minimalist Plus stock? In photos they look identical. Are the LOPs different? |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 2:04:34 PM EDT
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Height of buttpad on the + is taller. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is the difference between the Sig Minimalist stock and the Minimalist Plus stock? In photos they look identical. Are the LOPs different? Regular Rattler Minimalist stock 
Minimalist Plus stock 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:09:35 PM EDT
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Thanks for the response. I am not sure what you mean, though. From photos it looks like the regular one has a higher buttpad. In fact, the only actual difference I can see in photos is that the + has the top corner rounded off. Regular Rattler Minimalist stock https://media.mwstatic.com/product-images/880x660/Primary/225/225139.jpg Minimalist Plus stock https://www.sigsauer.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/s/t/stock-x-fold-plus-blk-left.jpg |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 6:28:19 AM EDT
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Thanks for the response. I am not sure what you mean, though. From photos it looks like the regular one has a higher buttpad. In fact, the only actual difference I can see in photos is that the + has the top corner rounded off. Regular Rattler Minimalist stock https://media.mwstatic.com/product-images/880x660/Primary/225/225139.jpg Minimalist Plus stock https://www.sigsauer.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/s/t/stock-x-fold-plus-blk-left.jpg |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 6:29:36 AM EDT
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Anyone know where these are in stock at? |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 2:53:16 PM EDT
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Those of you that have had them awhile and running with a can.. I'd like your thoughts.
Ive got a gen 1 MCX that I did a form 1 and chopped the 556 barrel. I'm debating on doing the same to a 300 barrel or getting a Rattler upper. My questions are: I'm primarily interested in using it for hog hunting, how's the ballistics? And anyone notice increased wear on your can? i'm a little unsure about a barrel that short for hunting purposes, especially with subs. Any feedback is appreciated @coregon |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 3:02:02 PM EDT
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Those of you that have had them awhile and running with a can.. I'd like your thoughts. Ive got a gen 1 MCX that I did a form 1 and chopped the 556 barrel. I'm debating on doing the same to a 300 barrel or getting a Rattler upper. My questions are: I'm primarily interested in using it for hog hunting, how's the ballistics? And anyone notice increased wear on your can? i'm a little unsure about a barrel that short for hunting purposes, especially with subs. Any feedback is appreciated @coregon Supers are going to increase wear on cans and sound louder than the same can on a longer barrel, but those are properties that apply across the spectrum to every caliber, can, and barrel combo. A 5.5" 300blk shooting supers will have plenty of energy to kill a hog within reasonable ranges. Subs might be effective depending on bullet, range, and placement, but that's just subs, not anything to do with the Rattler. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 3:14:31 PM EDT
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None of your questions are really unique to the Rattler. There are plenty of people that have killed deer or hogs, etc with 6" 300blk barrels. Your effective range is limited, but within that range you'll be fine. Barrel length won't make much difference for subs, because velocity is limited to remain subsonic, so no matter your barrel length, your velocity is basically the same. This also means that lethality is limited across the board for subs. Doable, but not as good as supers. Supers are going to increase wear on cans and sound louder than the same can on a longer barrel, but those are properties that apply across the spectrum to every caliber, can, and barrel combo. A 5.5" 300blk shooting supers will have plenty of energy to kill a hog within reasonable ranges. Subs might be effective depending on bullet, range, and placement, but that's just subs, not anything to do with the Rattler. That was actually part of my question that I forgot to add, what kind of usable range would the 5.5" barrel have Vs say, a 8"? I really like the idea of the rattler guess I'm worried 5.5" may be too short for what I wanna do with it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 6:49:19 PM EDT
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Thanks. That was actually part of my question that I forgot to add, what kind of usable range would the 5.5" barrel have Vs say, a 8"? I really like the idea of the rattler guess I'm worried 5.5" may be too short for what I wanna do with it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 10:58:27 PM EDT
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Thanks. That was actually part of my question that I forgot to add, what kind of usable range would the 5.5" barrel have Vs say, a 8"? I really like the idea of the rattler guess I'm worried 5.5" may be too short for what I wanna do with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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None of your questions are really unique to the Rattler. There are plenty of people that have killed deer or hogs, etc with 6" 300blk barrels. Your effective range is limited, but within that range you'll be fine. Barrel length won't make much difference for subs, because velocity is limited to remain subsonic, so no matter your barrel length, your velocity is basically the same. This also means that lethality is limited across the board for subs. Doable, but not as good as supers. Supers are going to increase wear on cans and sound louder than the same can on a longer barrel, but those are properties that apply across the spectrum to every caliber, can, and barrel combo. A 5.5" 300blk shooting supers will have plenty of energy to kill a hog within reasonable ranges. Subs might be effective depending on bullet, range, and placement, but that's just subs, not anything to do with the Rattler. That was actually part of my question that I forgot to add, what kind of usable range would the 5.5" barrel have Vs say, a 8"? I really like the idea of the rattler guess I'm worried 5.5" may be too short for what I wanna do with it. Rattler will be a little limited when it comes to distances, but anything in the 100-150yd range, you should be fine (ammo dependent, of course). If you already own an MCX, you could always go 6.75" barrel and get nearly there, without having to purchase an entirely new rifle/pistol/upper. |
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Posted: 11/28/2018 11:12:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Daggertt pretty much sums it up. Rattler will be a little limited when it comes to distances, but anything in the 100-150yd range, you should be fine (ammo dependent, of course). If you already own an MCX, you could always go 6.75" barrel and get nearly there, without having to purchase an entirely new rifle/pistol/upper. the 6.75 barrel is something I've considered, what length handguard would I need with that? and something else (and I think I knew the answer but forgot) the bolts that come with the Virtus barrels, is it the same bolt I already have from the recall? I'd prefer not to have to change bolts back and forth. |
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Posted: 11/28/2018 11:39:01 PM EDT
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@coregon the 6.75 barrel is something I've considered, what length handguard would I need with that? and something else (and I think I knew the answer but forgot) the bolts that come with the Virtus barrels, is it the same bolt I already have from the recall? I'd prefer not to have to change bolts back and forth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: @Daggertt pretty much sums it up. Rattler will be a little limited when it comes to distances, but anything in the 100-150yd range, you should be fine (ammo dependent, of course). If you already own an MCX, you could always go 6.75" barrel and get nearly there, without having to purchase an entirely new rifle/pistol/upper. the 6.75 barrel is something I've considered, what length handguard would I need with that? and something else (and I think I knew the answer but forgot) the bolts that come with the Virtus barrels, is it the same bolt I already have from the recall? I'd prefer not to have to change bolts back and forth. No on the bolts. Virtus uses tapered bolt lugs, Legacy uses M16-style bolt lugs. Virtus on left, M16-style on right:  Attached File |
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