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Posted: 11/13/2021 11:45:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are plenty of qd scout light mounts on the market. Just one more reason this is awesome. Ah, didn't think of that - thanks homey! |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 11:56:21 AM EDT
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Are both models the same size/weight/footprint?
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Posted: 11/13/2021 5:24:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2021 5:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a couple of switch systems that will let you activate this IR illuminator and a laser simultaneously. So $1300 vs $2300 MAWL or $1500 D2. KIJI $650 Steiner OTAL C IR- $500 TAPS SYNC- $150 KIJI $650 Otal - $380 (eurooptics) Mod button lite dual lead -$150 $1,180 honestly this looks like the best option as a civilian when you consider the cost and performance. I’ll take no slaved vis laser for all the upsides. |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 7:16:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: KIJI $650 Otal - $380 (eurooptics) Mod button lite dual lead -$150 $1,180 honestly this looks like the best option as a civilian when you consider the cost and performance. I'll take no slaved vis laser for all the upsides. Only downside is extra weight once you add a white light |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 8:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or upgrade the OTAL for cqbl to get vis laser. Only downside is extra weight once you add a white light Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: KIJI $650 Otal - $380 (eurooptics) Mod button lite dual lead -$150 $1,180 honestly this looks like the best option as a civilian when you consider the cost and performance. I'll take no slaved vis laser for all the upsides. Only downside is extra weight once you add a white light Once you upgrade to the CQBL, how close are you to the expected cost of the Z-Bolt ACAL VCSEL C1+ ? |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 11:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once you upgrade to the CQBL, how close are you to the expected cost of the Z-Bolt ACAL VCSEL C1+ ? |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 12:21:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once you upgrade to the CQBL, how close are you to the expected cost of the Z-Bolt ACAL VCSEL C1+ ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: KIJI $650 Otal - $380 (eurooptics) Mod button lite dual lead -$150 $1,180 honestly this looks like the best option as a civilian when you consider the cost and performance. I'll take no slaved vis laser for all the upsides. Only downside is extra weight once you add a white light Once you upgrade to the CQBL, how close are you to the expected cost of the Z-Bolt ACAL VCSEL C1+ ? What is that expected cost? |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 3:01:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is that expected cost? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: KIJI $650 Otal - $380 (eurooptics) Mod button lite dual lead -$150 $1,180 honestly this looks like the best option as a civilian when you consider the cost and performance. I'll take no slaved vis laser for all the upsides. Only downside is extra weight once you add a white light Once you upgrade to the CQBL, how close are you to the expected cost of the Z-Bolt ACAL VCSEL C1+ ? What is that expected cost? People have hinted that they know what the cost will be. I am not one of those bros :) |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 7:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or upgrade the OTAL for cqbl to get vis laser. Only downside is extra weight once you add a white light Are they even in stock anywhere? Trying to figure out how much it'd cost. Seems like one of these KIJIs would pair well with something like a PERST4, no? I just don't know if it's possible to have both attached to the same switch. |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 12:32:24 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they even in stock anywhere? Trying to figure out how much it'd cost. Seems like one of these KIJIs would pair well with something like a PERST4, no? I just don't know if it's possible to have both attached to the same switch. |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 3:25:32 PM EDT
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Alright, I bit the bullet and ordered a CQBL and a 3 degree KIJI.
I also ordered a dual lead modbutton, and will stack the KIJI with a DS00, giving me the option to run everything at the same time through the switch, or independently through the buttons. Any ideas what the best way to mount my modlite weapon light and this on the same rail and keep them all as tight to the laser and each other? Im not opposed to running one left or one right, but thinking about mounting them both on the right side and tuck them as close in as possible. @everyindustrypartner |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 3:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alright, I bit the bullet and ordered a CQBL and a 3 degree KIJI. I also ordered a dual lead modbutton, and will stack the KIJI with a DS00, giving me the option to run everything at the same time through the switch, or independently through the buttons. Any ideas what the best way to mount my modlite weapon light and this on the same rail and keep them all as tight to the laser and each other? Im not opposed to running one left or one right, but thinking about mounting them both on the right side and tuck them as close in as possible. @everyindustrypartner I was thinking the new swivel style pro bodies on the surefires would work great for that. If not, the arisaka side scout mount and combination of another, possibly inline, mount |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 4:10:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking the new swivel style pro bodies on the surefires would work great for that. If not, the arisaka side scout mount and combination of another, possibly inline, mount Yeah, I guess my issue is without having run a CQBL before, I'm not sure what 1-2 o clock mount I can get away with to get it as close to the laser as possible. The swivel mount would be great, but the issue I have with that is simply cost. Ideally.....the echo arms ILM would be perfect- mount the illuminator head to that....then tuck my modlight right in underneath that. But thats never in stock and who knows when they'll be back so yeah.... |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 4:34:55 PM EDT
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TNVC needs to work to get the Unity mount setup back in production.
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Posted: 11/15/2021 6:10:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TNVC needs to work to get the Unity mount setup back in production. The Echo Arms light body works very nicely. |
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Posted: 11/15/2021 6:30:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I guess my issue is without having run a CQBL before, I'm not sure what 1-2 o clock mount I can get away with to get it as close to the laser as possible. The swivel mount would be great, but the issue I have with that is simply cost. Ideally.....the echo arms ILM would be perfect- mount the illuminator head to that....then tuck my modlight right in underneath that. But thats never in stock and who knows when they'll be back so yeah.... Depending on which rail you have you can get a scout light body ungodly close to a CQBL. On a Geissele MK8 and an Arisaka inline MLOK mount the flare on the tailcap mates up perfectlyl with the CQBL body. The Echo Arms mount is actually further outboard. I need to get a KIJI and play with all the different options. |
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Posted: 11/16/2021 10:24:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I guess my issue is without having run a CQBL before, I'm not sure what 1-2 o clock mount I can get away with to get it as close to the laser as possible. The swivel mount would be great, but the issue I have with that is simply cost. Ideally.....the echo arms ILM would be perfect- mount the illuminator head to that....then tuck my modlight right in underneath that. But thats never in stock and who knows when they'll be back so yeah.... I was thinking the same. I have a CQBL/KM1 head/DS00 tailcap for a PCC, but if you could swap in the KIJI head it would seem to be a legit rifle distance setup. @TNVC_Augee or any other TNVC folks, is there an option to just purchase the KIJI head and filter, sans body and tailcap? |
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Posted: 11/16/2021 2:57:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Indeed. I'm rather fond of the centerline pointers on the CQBL, very little impact from laser offset.
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Posted: 11/16/2021 6:02:44 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking the same. I have a CQBL/KM1 head/DS00 tailcap for a PCC, but if you could swap in the KIJI head it would seem to be a legit rifle distance setup. @TNVC_Augee or any other TNVC folks, is there an option to just purchase the KIJI head and filter, sans body and tailcap? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, I guess my issue is without having run a CQBL before, I'm not sure what 1-2 o clock mount I can get away with to get it as close to the laser as possible. The swivel mount would be great, but the issue I have with that is simply cost. Ideally.....the echo arms ILM would be perfect- mount the illuminator head to that....then tuck my modlight right in underneath that. But thats never in stock and who knows when they'll be back so yeah.... I was thinking the same. I have a CQBL/KM1 head/DS00 tailcap for a PCC, but if you could swap in the KIJI head it would seem to be a legit rifle distance setup. @TNVC_Augee or any other TNVC folks, is there an option to just purchase the KIJI head and filter, sans body and tailcap? I believe I saw that eventually that will be an option. I’m considering buying one as it’s currently configured and just putting the head on my rifle with CQBL and moving that head to another rifle. Besides, how cool to get a BE Meyers 3V flashlight body? |
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Posted: 11/16/2021 10:07:23 PM EDT
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Anyone's KIJI shipped yet?
I ordered from Steele the day they were available. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 12:24:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone's KIJI shipped yet? I ordered from Steele the day they were available. I don't believe they will hit dealers until after the holiday. I think almost every dealer page that I looked at had noted they were expected to arrive on dealer shelves in 2 weeks. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 12:37:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe they will hit dealers until after the holiday. I think almost every dealer page that I looked at had noted they were expected to arrive on dealer shelves in 2 weeks. Oof. Having flashbacks of packages taking 2 weeks to get to me when they'd have only took 3 days if not after black Friday. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 12:42:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oof. Having flashbacks of packages taking 2 weeks to get to me when they'd have only took 3 days if not after black Friday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't believe they will hit dealers until after the holiday. I think almost every dealer page that I looked at had noted they were expected to arrive on dealer shelves in 2 weeks. Oof. Having flashbacks of packages taking 2 weeks to get to me when they'd have only took 3 days if not after black Friday. Can’t remember where I saw it, but steele mentioned shipping soon. If I find the post, I’ll screenshot it. @Airborne_Infantryman Was posted a couple days ago, so they probably mean this week.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 9:26:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe I saw that eventually that will be an option. I’m considering buying one as it’s currently configured and just putting the head on my rifle with CQBL and moving that head to another rifle. Besides, how cool to get a BE Meyers 3V flashlight body? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, I guess my issue is without having run a CQBL before, I'm not sure what 1-2 o clock mount I can get away with to get it as close to the laser as possible. The swivel mount would be great, but the issue I have with that is simply cost. Ideally.....the echo arms ILM would be perfect- mount the illuminator head to that....then tuck my modlight right in underneath that. But thats never in stock and who knows when they'll be back so yeah.... I was thinking the same. I have a CQBL/KM1 head/DS00 tailcap for a PCC, but if you could swap in the KIJI head it would seem to be a legit rifle distance setup. @TNVC_Augee or any other TNVC folks, is there an option to just purchase the KIJI head and filter, sans body and tailcap? I believe I saw that eventually that will be an option. I’m considering buying one as it’s currently configured and just putting the head on my rifle with CQBL and moving that head to another rifle. Besides, how cool to get a BE Meyers 3V flashlight body? Meh, already have a couple flashlight bodies hanging around so if it could shed some bucks and avoid some clutter I'd prefer it, haha. |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 9:50:03 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, already have a couple flashlight bodies hanging around so if it could shed some bucks and avoid some clutter I'd prefer it, haha. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, I guess my issue is without having run a CQBL before, I'm not sure what 1-2 o clock mount I can get away with to get it as close to the laser as possible. The swivel mount would be great, but the issue I have with that is simply cost. Ideally.....the echo arms ILM would be perfect- mount the illuminator head to that....then tuck my modlight right in underneath that. But thats never in stock and who knows when they'll be back so yeah.... I was thinking the same. I have a CQBL/KM1 head/DS00 tailcap for a PCC, but if you could swap in the KIJI head it would seem to be a legit rifle distance setup. @TNVC_Augee or any other TNVC folks, is there an option to just purchase the KIJI head and filter, sans body and tailcap? I believe I saw that eventually that will be an option. I’m considering buying one as it’s currently configured and just putting the head on my rifle with CQBL and moving that head to another rifle. Besides, how cool to get a BE Meyers 3V flashlight body? Meh, already have a couple flashlight bodies hanging around so if it could shed some bucks and avoid some clutter I'd prefer it, haha. Sell em on the EE. I do understand though. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 12:38:48 PM EDT
[#27]
My KIJI from Steele Industries just shipped. So they are at dealers now and shipping out.
They posted a story on their IG, and they have a TON of them. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 12:51:16 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe they will hit dealers until after the holiday. I think almost every dealer page that I looked at had noted they were expected to arrive on dealer shelves in 2 weeks. Weaponoutfitters has had them since last week |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 1:01:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Weaponoutfitters has had them since last week They said in stock, but hadn't gotten them from BE Meyers till Wednesday. |
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Posted: 11/20/2021 8:39:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Weaponoutfitters has had them since last week Mine shipped yesterday from weapon outfitters Had to call and get it switched from the 10 deg to 3 deg model before it shipped (thought I wanted the 10 degree but after the videos posted I went with 3 degree instead).. with my luck I bet I get the 10 degree model 
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Posted: 11/22/2021 2:02:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Our units (a very large qty of them) are shipping out today and tomorrow! Folks are REALLY gonna like this pocket rocket. I was out with Matt Meyers several months ago at Pro Gun Club here in Nevada with Greenline Tactical when I first got to work the KIJI. I was immediately impressed with the performance in such a little light and wish I could have talked about it WAY early on but we were under NDA for our testing with the unit.
  
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Posted: 11/22/2021 3:16:12 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our units (a very large qty of them) are shipping out today and tomorrow! Folks are REALLY gonna like this pocket rocket. I was out with Matt Meyers several months ago at Pro Gun Club here in Nevada with Greenline Tactical when I first got to work the KIJI. I was immediately impressed with the performance in such a little light and wish I could have talked about it WAY early on but we were under NDA for our testing with the unit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19096/Photo-Nov-11-23-18-49-2177032.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19096/Photo-Nov-11-23-20-05-2177031.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19096/KIJI3_01-2177033.jpg It would be nice to be able to purchase it directly in one of the configurations from your second pic.  |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 4:17:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be nice to be able to purchase it directly in one of the configurations from your second pic. We are working on several package options. ~Augee |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 7:00:33 PM EDT
[#34]
I received mine, going to be comparing to a Raid X tonight, maybe a couple others.
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Posted: 11/22/2021 7:09:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I received mine, going to be comparing to a Raid X tonight, maybe a couple others. Sweet. Looking forward to some more feedback from users. Photos would be appreciated if you have the opportunity. If the feedback is positive, I plan on pairing it with a Perst 4 & modified dual lead switch |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 9:01:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Very impressed with the Kiji. Will post pictures when I go inside for the night. Compared it to the Raid, would’ve brought the Mawl but I didn’t want it banging around the dump pouch with the Kiji for a few hours.
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Posted: 11/23/2021 12:45:37 AM EDT
[#37]
No pics, but I got two of the 3 degree KIJI and I'm very happy with them.
It's pretty much the illuminator of my MAWL in long range mode, with a slightly wider beam. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 12:50:30 AM EDT
[#38]
I felt nostalgic for green, so the images are through my Unfilmed green RNVGs. I did the best I could, I was taking pictures through the goggles on the helmet on my head. The distances are roughly 150/200 yards - to about 700-800 yards. The first picture is no illumination, then the next are the Raid X at full power with the illuminator all the way open, at various distances. Then the Kiji at full power(I think) at various distances. Then the Raid X at full power with the illum tightened down as far as it goes. The last ones are the Kiji after the moon came out.
Can’t get Imgur to work 
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Posted: 11/23/2021 3:58:47 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I felt nostalgic for green, so the images are through my Unfilmed green RNVGs. I did the best I could, I was taking pictures through the goggles on the helmet on my head. The distances are roughly 150/200 yards - to about 700-800 yards. The first picture is no illumination, then the next are the Raid X at full power with the illuminator all the way open, at various distances. Then the Kiji at full power(I think) at various distances. Then the Raid X at full power with the illum tightened down as far as it goes. The last ones are the Kiji after the moon came out. Can’t get Imgur to work Posting the following photos on behalf of @shreddingaxes , thanks for making these photos available to us Sample of area non illuminated:  Attached File“The first four illum pictures were the raid at widest divergence”  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileContinued… |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 4:00:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2021 4:04:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2021 4:07:15 AM EDT
[#42]
then Kiji once the moon came out
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileAll at highest power settings on both lasers(I think the Kiji was on high). It’s a nice little unit. The pictures make it seem like it’s all bloomed out and too much divergence, but in real time it works great |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 4:14:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Thanks for doing that, I’m having technical difficulties with my phone.
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Posted: 11/23/2021 9:03:01 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are working on several package options. ~Augee Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It would be nice to be able to purchase it directly in one of the configurations from your second pic. We are working on several package options. ~Augee @TNVC_Augee @TNVC Any plans to sell just the illuminator heads at some point? Would seem to pair nicely with the CQBL/light mount combo I already have... |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 10:58:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @TNVC_Augee @TNVC Any plans to sell just the illuminator heads at some point? Would seem to pair nicely with the CQBL/light mount combo I already have... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It would be nice to be able to purchase it directly in one of the configurations from your second pic. We are working on several package options. ~Augee @TNVC_Augee @TNVC Any plans to sell just the illuminator heads at some point? Would seem to pair nicely with the CQBL/light mount combo I already have... 2022, but firm date we're told. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 6:49:55 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are working on several package options. ~Augee Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It would be nice to be able to purchase it directly in one of the configurations from your second pic. We are working on several package options. ~Augee I am also interested in this! Packages help us idiots know we're not likely making mistakes
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Posted: 11/25/2021 10:27:12 AM EDT
[#47]
How does the KIJI compare to an M300V?
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Posted: 11/25/2021 10:53:54 AM EDT
[#48]
Well to judge from the photos, it flat kills it. I would estimate something on the order of 4x the power.
@TNVC: On the one pic with the IR and WL, and no LAM, I'm only seeing one Modlite button. Is this a dual lead Modlite, that activates either illum, with the one not in use just switched/twisted off? That would seem to be make a lot us sense to me, but Modlite insists on their website that the TAPS is more optimize for this. If you have a decent RDS set up, where you can use the reticle with your NVD, then having dual illum likes this (and maybe no LAM) makes a lot of sense. Is this what you're T&E-ing here? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 11:19:06 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the KIJI compare to an M300V? It's a MAWL/PERST-3 in a handheld, M300V cries in the corner MAWL Left / Kiji 3 Degree 150mW Right  From: TFB-Kiji |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 11:42:03 AM EDT
[#50]
I think one of these, with the echo CQBL body, and a CQBL would be the ultimate setup. basically besting the Mawl for considerably less money in a compact single unit.
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