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Posted: 9/18/2019 5:15:53 PM EDT
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The DHS contract overrun "Purple" ammo is back at a good price. A bunch of this hit the market back in 2016.... but at a much higher price back then....
Some have stated this is lead free primer stuff, and might not have as long of a shelf life. https://www.luckygunner.com/223-rem-62-grain-ot-winchester-dhs-purple-casing-1000-rounds  Appears to be a bit slower....  .223 Remington, 62gr OTM (Q3340) Winchester LE, Traning Only, Gel Test  .223 Remington, 62gr OTM (Q3340) Winchester LE, Traning Only, Velocity Test |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 5:42:48 PM EDT
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The DHS contract overrun "Purple" ammo is back at a good price. A bunch of this hit the market back in 2016.... but at a much higher price back then.... Some have stated this is lead free primer stuff, and might not have as long of a shelf life. https://www.luckygunner.com/223-rem-62-grain-ot-winchester-dhs-purple-casing-1000-rounds https://i.postimg.cc/KjSNcyJv/screenshot-91.png Appears to be a bit slower....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzTJJIFv5eI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv9aXTshENA |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:17:08 PM EDT
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Any idea how accurate the purple stuff is?
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:20:36 PM EDT
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Bummer, sold out today right as I was finally going to grab a couple of cases. Guess we will see if he actually gets some more in at all, and at what selling price. Yes, I waited 11 years to make my first post, bitching about ammo being out of stock... Keep checking back,i bet he gets more in.It sold too well in a slow market not to. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:31:46 PM EDT
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Wow - I'm actually more impressed with what this stuff did in gel than what the regular 5.56 otm did....albeit only 11" penetration with the 16" AR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The DHS contract overrun "Purple" ammo is back at a good price. A bunch of this hit the market back in 2016.... but at a much higher price back then.... Some have stated this is lead free primer stuff, and might not have as long of a shelf life. https://www.luckygunner.com/223-rem-62-grain-ot-winchester-dhs-purple-casing-1000-rounds https://i.postimg.cc/KjSNcyJv/screenshot-91.png Appears to be a bit slower.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzTJJIFv5eI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv9aXTshENABet the slower velocity is due to it being a 223 load and not 5.56 Very tempting for sure.Lucky gunner is too pricey at $337 with shipping and tax Wonder if Sam at SGammo will get any of this. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:52:16 PM EDT
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Anyone else have it at same price?
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow - I'm actually more impressed with what this stuff did in gel than what the regular 5.56 otm did....albeit only 11" penetration with the 16" AR. all outings, and the Swedish OT is perfect for me and my friends. I kind of think that even if it does come back at a higher price, it still won't be around much longer, as it still is a surplus overrun. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:57:01 PM EDT
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I bet he gets more in. It sold too well in a slow market not to. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:14:11 PM EDT
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Averages out to 100+ cases a day sold over the past two weeks if you believe the numbers from his emails.
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was going to ask this question. Are you guys saving this ammo for rainy day stash or are you just shooting it? I have 2 sealed cases and want to buy 2-4 more for defensive type stash to go along with my Fusion and Speer GD 62 grain Probably shoot a 180 round box for zeroing,etc and hold onto the rest. We have never started a fire, but now that ALL the blame is being directed towards shooters for ALL fires caused by lightening etc., I don't care to shoot it. So, the moral of the story is that I should have shot most of that up when I could and enjoyed it without being concerned about fire, or worse, someone blaming us for starting one. With all that I said, I still tend to set aside a case, just in case. 
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:29:42 PM EDT
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I am just going to shoot most all of mine. I have some MK318 and some Gold Dot for serious social interactions. (God help us if that ever happens). I may sell some to close friends if the .gov decides to tax ammo etc. or whatever, but unless that happens, I intend to shoot it up and enjoy it's fine accuracy, and enjoy my rifles. A while ago I bought some cases of the Swiss Ruag 62 grain ammo, and it still sets a record in my mind for accuracy. Now I wont shoot it out here in the desert during the summer because of the fire danger, as it's M855 steel core. We have never started a fire, but now that ALL the blame is being directed towards shooters for ALL fires caused by lightening etc., I don't care to shoot it. So, the moral of the story is that I should have shot most of that up when I could and enjoyed it without being concerned about fire, or worse, someone blaming us for starting one. With all that I said, I still tend to set aside a case, just in case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Was going to ask this question. Are you guys saving this ammo for rainy day stash or are you just shooting it? I have 2 sealed cases and want to buy 2-4 more for defensive type stash to go along with my Fusion and Speer GD 62 grain Probably shoot a 180 round box for zeroing,etc and hold onto the rest. We have never started a fire, but now that ALL the blame is being directed towards shooters for ALL fires caused by lightening etc., I don't care to shoot it. So, the moral of the story is that I should have shot most of that up when I could and enjoyed it without being concerned about fire, or worse, someone blaming us for starting one. With all that I said, I still tend to set aside a case, just in case. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:32:46 PM EDT
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Averages out to 100+ cases a day sold over the past two weeks if you believe the numbers from his emails. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 11:18:53 PM EDT
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Averages out to 100+ cases a day sold over the past two weeks if you believe the numbers from his emails. |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 10:52:54 AM EDT
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Loose lips in a GD thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Averages out to 100+ cases a day sold over the past two weeks if you believe the numbers from his emails. |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 11:52:45 AM EDT
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All gone. Sorry for those of you that didn't get any, but people need to jump on good ammo deals. Read the reviews, buy ASAP however you can.
I still shoot Port. .308 surplus that I bought for 13 cents a round because I bought all I could afford when it was available. In between house payments and all the other bills, I still managed to stack a pretty reasonable amount. Then, one day I looked, and it was gone. Never to return. |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 6:25:02 PM EDT
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All gone. Sorry for those of you that didn't get any, but people need to jump on good ammo deals. Read the reviews, buy ASAP however you can. I still shoot Port. .308 surplus that I bought for 13 cents a round because I bought all I could afford when it was available. In between house payments and all the other bills, I still managed to stack a pretty reasonable amount. Then, one day I looked, and it was gone. Never to return. If not then no regrets.Bought as much as my budget allowed |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 8:05:16 PM EDT
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Hope it does, but it was "government contract leftovers available at a huge discount". I suspect that it may never come back.
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Posted: 9/19/2019 8:10:20 PM EDT
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Hope it does, but it was "government contract leftovers available at a huge discount". I suspect that it may never come back. Its not depleted,the price hasnt been agreed upon is all. Thats how i read it anyways |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 10:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last email SGammo sent out said that the distributor wanted to raise the price.They had shipments left to sell,just at a higher price than it was and Sam said no Its not depleted,the price hasnt been agreed upon is all. Thats how i read it anyways |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 10:34:00 PM EDT
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This was essentially the same thing I got from Sam today. Might come back, will be $309 if it does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The last email SGammo sent out said that the distributor wanted to raise the price.They had shipments left to sell,just at a higher price than it was and Sam said no Its not depleted,the price hasnt been agreed upon is all. Thats how i read it anyways |
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Posted: 9/19/2019 10:35:07 PM EDT
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This was essentially the same thing I got from Sam today. Might come back, will be $309 if it does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The last email SGammo sent out said that the distributor wanted to raise the price.They had shipments left to sell,just at a higher price than it was and Sam said no Its not depleted,the price hasnt been agreed upon is all. Thats how i read it anyways |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:33:56 PM EDT
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Just received the back in stock notification at the SAME price! 14 cases as of this post
I bet this is inventory they “found” laying around in the wrong part of their warehouse. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 6:13:42 PM EDT
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Got my two cases. His inventory system is all over the place. Said 16, then 8, then I bought 2, now it says 14...
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Posted: 9/20/2019 7:02:55 PM EDT
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Got my two cases. His inventory system is all over the place. Said 16, then 8, then I bought 2, now it says 14... 
I just got back from another outing today. AR with a 16" FN hammer forged barrel, Geissele trigger 5 shot one inch group with this Swedish Winchester OT, and a five shot one inch group with the Magtech 77g OTM 5.56. This is a barrel that I got from PSA and it has the skinny profile under the hand guard, so for this barrel to shoot this well with this Winchester OT, it really is match grade ammo, so far as I am concerned. I was so happy when I got back, I couldn't stop myself from buying more. If the price does indeed get raised to 309.00 per 900, it would still be well worth it!
For you folks looking for it, it's on the second page at SG. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 8:12:13 PM EDT
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Got my two cases. His inventory system is all over the place. Said 16, then 8, then I bought 2, now it says 14... Sam always does his inventory this way. 16 cases,4 get sold,18 cases,down to 2 cases,back to 12 cases |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 8:13:31 PM EDT
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I am sure glad to see you got your ammo. I am tickled that I was wrong about it not coming back! I just ordered some more myself
I just got back from another outing today. AR with a 16" FN hammer forged barrel, Geissele trigger 5 shot one inch group with this Swedish Winchester OT, and a five shot one inch group with the Magtech 77g OTM 5.56. This is a barrel that I got from PSA and it has the skinny profile under the hand guard, so for this barrel to shoot this well with this Winchester OT, it really is match grade ammo, so far as I am concerned. I was so happy when I got back, I couldn't stop myself from buying more. If the price does indeed get raised to 309.00 per 900, it would still be well worth it!
For you folks looking for it, it's on the second page at SG. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got my two cases. His inventory system is all over the place. Said 16, then 8, then I bought 2, now it says 14...
I just got back from another outing today. AR with a 16" FN hammer forged barrel, Geissele trigger 5 shot one inch group with this Swedish Winchester OT, and a five shot one inch group with the Magtech 77g OTM 5.56. This is a barrel that I got from PSA and it has the skinny profile under the hand guard, so for this barrel to shoot this well with this Winchester OT, it really is match grade ammo, so far as I am concerned. I was so happy when I got back, I couldn't stop myself from buying more. If the price does indeed get raised to 309.00 per 900, it would still be well worth it!
For you folks looking for it, it's on the second page at SG. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 10:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably a pallet he was holding back.I doubt the new shipment already made it in if he went ahead and bought more at a higher price Sam always does his inventory this way. 16 cases,4 get sold,18 cases,down to 2 cases,back to 12 cases Also it's in stock here for $273 with shipping included.. 62gr OTM |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 11:05:13 PM EDT
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He's stated a few times that the inventory tracker on the website is completely random as he doesn't want people to know his true stock count of items. Also it's in stock here for $273 with shipping included.. 62gr OTM Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Probably a pallet he was holding back.I doubt the new shipment already made it in if he went ahead and bought more at a higher price Sam always does his inventory this way. 16 cases,4 get sold,18 cases,down to 2 cases,back to 12 cases Also it's in stock here for $273 with shipping included.. 62gr OTM Pretty sure ammoempire is Sam's sister site for bulk ammo sales.It comes out cheaper there (sister site)which is a plus |
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Posted: 9/22/2019 11:36:37 AM EDT
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All gone. Sorry for those of you that didn't get any, but people need to jump on good ammo deals. Read the reviews, buy ASAP however you can. I still shoot Port. .308 surplus that I bought for 13 cents a round because I bought all I could afford when it was available. In between house payments and all the other bills, I still managed to stack a pretty reasonable amount. Then, one day I looked, and it was gone. Never to return. My shipment should arrive tomorrow. Grabbed 9 boxes (1620 rounds). |
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Posted: 9/22/2019 2:20:39 PM EDT
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Would you guys say the win 62 ot is still a good value at 38 cents a round?
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Posted: 9/22/2019 3:38:30 PM EDT
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Would you guys say the win 62 ot is still a good value at 38 cents a round? I'm certainly not a buyer at that price, when M193 is 28 cents delivered. I'd rather spend a little more and buy Magtech CBC 77gr SMK for 55 cents. |
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Posted: 9/22/2019 3:41:48 PM EDT
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At .38 cents per round it is starting to compete with some of the heavier bullets such as the Hornady Frontier 68 grain match. No matter that this round is super accurate in barrels that like it, it is still only 62 grains, and lighter bullets don't do well at the longer ranges.
So, no, at least for me, that's too expensive. |
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Posted: 9/22/2019 4:10:19 PM EDT
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Value? Only if you are looking for something that has a little better accuracy potential than M193, and you need a hollow point/soft point bullet due to range requirements (like they require in DFW area), or you want a higher velocity bullet with decent terminal ballistics for low cost hunting and hunting practice ammo. I'm certainly not a buyer at that price, when M193 is 28 cents delivered. I'd rather spend a little more and buy Magtech CBC 77gr SMK for 55 cents. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you guys say the win 62 ot is still a good value at 38 cents a round? I'm certainly not a buyer at that price, when M193 is 28 cents delivered. I'd rather spend a little more and buy Magtech CBC 77gr SMK for 55 cents. My cut off price point would be @$290-305 per 900 round case |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 6:00:29 PM EDT
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Looks like new inventory is on its way. The new, higher price is already showing
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Posted: 9/26/2019 6:22:09 PM EDT
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Looks like new inventory is on its way. The new, higher price is already showing The new price is right at the limit,probably wont sell as well but will stick around much longer $309.50 - 34cpr on the 900 round case before shipping |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 9:16:03 PM EDT
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Glad I bought 4 cases several months back then. But still shows OOS though.
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Posted: 9/27/2019 9:43:18 PM EDT
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Glad I bought 4 cases several months back then. But still shows OOS though. Think of it as a saved space on the website so when it comes back in it gets listed quickly |
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Posted: 9/28/2019 5:48:59 PM EDT
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Glad it's back, also glad I got all I ever am going to need for the rest of my life. Still a decent price considering how good the ammo is.
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Posted: 9/28/2019 6:14:11 PM EDT
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Glad it's back, also glad I got all I ever am going to need for the rest of my life. Still a decent price considering how good the ammo is. Stacking the Magtech 77 smk right now |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 12:52:17 PM EDT
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I think i am good as well for my use. Stacking the Magtech 77 smk right now Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad it's back, also glad I got all I ever am going to need for the rest of my life. Still a decent price considering how good the ammo is. Stacking the Magtech 77 smk right now |
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Posted: 9/29/2019 12:59:02 PM EDT
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Who has the best price? SGAmmo? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad it's back, also glad I got all I ever am going to need for the rest of my life. Still a decent price considering how good the ammo is. Stacking the Magtech 77 smk right now |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 3:14:13 AM EDT
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LMT 16" MRP Piston upper.
Primary Arms red dot MD-RB-AD Aimpoint 3X magnifier 200 yards, left with Federal XM855, right with Winchester 62 gr OT Steel plates are IPSC-D size  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 7:41:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: left with Federal XM855, right with Winchester 62 gr OT |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:22:08 PM EDT
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It's back. $279 isn't bad.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:30:11 PM EDT
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It's back. $279 isn't bad. Sam's email said he bought what was left from the distributor. So once its gone this time,its gone for good |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:32:17 PM EDT
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I saw the email about this. I read some of the thread but is the consensus that it’s good? Will it work well in a 1/7 BCM ELW?
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Posted: 11/7/2019 4:26:51 PM EDT
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Shot some yesterday from Dads stash. Shot okay, very fast. About as fast as the 55s we had on hand. Didnt impress with groups from his barrel. Will try this Geisselle barrel maybe this afternoon.
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Posted: 11/12/2019 5:38:30 AM EDT
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Shot some yesterday from Dads stash. Shot okay, very fast. About as fast as the 55s we had on hand. Didnt impress with groups from his barrel. Will try this Geisselle barrel maybe this afternoon. If I had more disposable income, I'd buy lots of Magtech 77 gr OTM. The groups are even better than the Swedish stuff. |
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Posted: 11/12/2019 6:51:36 PM EDT
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I have a healthy amount of 1x7 barreled uppers and experimented with different optics. Most saw improvement in group sizes with this 62 gr OT compared to XM855. Two saw little improvement. For these, I relegate them with un-magnified RDS. As long as they consistently ring the IPSC-D steel plate at 200 yards I'm okay feeding them with XM855. If I had more disposable income, I'd buy lots of Magtech 77 gr OTM. The groups are even better than the Swedish stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shot some yesterday from Dads stash. Shot okay, very fast. About as fast as the 55s we had on hand. Didnt impress with groups from his barrel. Will try this Geisselle barrel maybe this afternoon. If I had more disposable income, I'd buy lots of Magtech 77 gr OTM. The groups are even better than the Swedish stuff. Once the old stuff is gone everything changes with the Magtech round in 77gr |
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Posted: 11/12/2019 9:44:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Word from Sam at SGammo is that Magtech is going to be using a different bullet as expenses have went up. Once the old stuff is gone everything changes with the Magtech round in 77gr |
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