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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:38:31 AM EDT
[#1]
First focal plane and not red dot bright is a terrible combination.
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Posted: 5/7/2021 10:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First focal plane and not red dot bright is a terrible combination. Thought the 1-8x28 is daylight bright, it's the 1-6x24 that's not. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 10:47:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought the 1-8x28 is daylight bright, it's the 1-6x24 that's not. I've never seen a Trijicon that had a daylight bright reticle...even when some faceless person who owns one , says it is. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 12:19:13 PM EDT
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The 1-6 hx led are. The segmented reticle 1-6 is not. The 1-8 is supposedly brighter than the segment 1-6 but still not daylight bright. I've considered picking up the 1-8 but the illumination and the weight has held me back.
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Posted: 5/8/2021 12:21:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Aren’t they bricks for weight?
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Posted: 5/8/2021 12:59:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren’t they bricks for weight? This was the reason I assumed most wouldn’t be attracted to it that aren’t attracted to it. Isn’t this the one that’s mostly a revamped 1-8 Accupower? I like my 1-8 Accupower but it’s a chubster. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 1:10:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: I see the 1-6 is popular. It gets mentioned all the time. Why not the 1-8? Because Of weight and cost. I have the 1-8 Accupower and Harv24 can shut up but to my eyes the 1-8 in red is bright enough. It’s not nuclear blooming everywhere but on a circle dot reticle you don’t want that. I’ve shot against a guy who runs a shop and he had the credo. It’s the same optic minus the low red settings are replaced by green. It is red and bright enough to see against reddish brown berms with no clouds. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 1:23:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Because Of weight and cost. I have the 1-8 Accupower and Harv24 can shut up but to my eyes the 1-8 in red is bright enough. It’s not nuclear blooming everywhere but on a circle dot reticle you don’t want that. I’ve shot against a guy who runs a shop and he had the credo. It’s the same optic minus the low red settings are replaced by green. It is red and bright enough to see against reddish brown berms with no clouds. Which does not make it daylight bright... Which is why the internet can be useless...Very few who own them will speak ill of them. You can have you're opinion, not your own facts...I've looked thru enough of them to know that they are not daylight bright. Just because it's "bright enough" for you, does not change that fact. The whole point of a LVPO is to perform like a daylight bright 1x red dot....otherwise its just another low powered scope. I don't know why so many have such a hard time grasping that concept. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 1:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Of weight and cost. I have the 1-8 Accupower and Harv24 can shut up but to my eyes the 1-8 in red is bright enough. It’s not nuclear blooming everywhere but on a circle dot reticle you don’t want that. I’ve shot against a guy who runs a shop and he had the credo. It’s the same optic minus the low red settings are replaced by green. It is red and bright enough to see against reddish brown berms with no clouds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I see the 1-6 is popular. It gets mentioned all the time. Why not the 1-8? Because Of weight and cost. I have the 1-8 Accupower and Harv24 can shut up but to my eyes the 1-8 in red is bright enough. It’s not nuclear blooming everywhere but on a circle dot reticle you don’t want that. I’ve shot against a guy who runs a shop and he had the credo. It’s the same optic minus the low red settings are replaced by green. It is red and bright enough to see against reddish brown berms with no clouds. I have owned a 1-8x Accupower, they are not “daylight bright,” at least in the context that most use that term. Their illumination is in no way comparable to an RDS. It’s still not a bad scope, but something I would say is more geared toward use at the upper mag ranges (decent reticle, exposed locking turrets, etc) as opposed to something like a Razor that excels at 1x. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 3:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought the 1-8x28 is daylight bright, it's the 1-6x24 that's not. Nope. The 1-6 HX with the “Hunter holds” reticle is the only daylight bright model, with some saying even that model is not Vortex/Leupold bright. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 3:19:16 PM EDT
[#11]
Heavy, stupid exposed knobs, crappy illumination.
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Posted: 5/8/2021 3:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never seen a Trijicon that had a daylight bright reticle...even when some faceless person who owns one , says it is. I have a 1-6x24 Credo HX with the Hunter Hold BDC. Standing in the Arizona sun, with a cloudless sky, at high noon, I can most assuredly guarantee you the center dot illumination is RDS bright. It cannot be captured well on my cell phone camera, it literally halves the brightness in the image. This level of brightness is not present in the "Segmented Circle" reticles I've seen on various Credo models. You can take my word on it, or not. I have no emotional investment in the purchase, for the brand or the specific product.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 6:30:30 PM EDT
[#13]
I just hate Harv24
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Posted: 5/8/2021 6:42:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: I just hate Harv24 All that Hate's gonna burn you up kid.... |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 6:42:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a 1-6x24 Credo HX with the Hunter Hold BDC. Standing in the Arizona sun, with a cloudless sky, at high noon, I can most assuredly guarantee you the center dot illumination is RDS bright. It cannot be captured well on my cell phone camera, it literally halves the brightness in the image. This level of brightness is not present in the "Segmented Circle" reticles I've seen on various Credo models. You can take my word on it, or not. I have no emotional investment in the purchase, for the brand or the specific product. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24926/20210508_124247_jpg-1934700.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a 1-6x24 Credo HX with the Hunter Hold BDC. Standing in the Arizona sun, with a cloudless sky, at high noon, I can most assuredly guarantee you the center dot illumination is RDS bright. It cannot be captured well on my cell phone camera, it literally halves the brightness in the image. This level of brightness is not present in the "Segmented Circle" reticles I've seen on various Credo models. You can take my word on it, or not. I have no emotional investment in the purchase, for the brand or the specific product. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24926/20210508_124247_jpg-1934700.JPG Quoted: I have a 1-6x24 Credo HX with the Hunter Hold BDC. Standing in the Arizona sun, with a cloudless sky, at high noon, I can most assuredly guarantee you the center dot illumination is RDS bright. It cannot be captured well on my cell phone camera, it literally halves the brightness in the image. This level of brightness is not present in the "Segmented Circle" reticles I've seen on various Credo models. You can take my word on it, or not. I have no emotional investment in the purchase, for the brand or the specific product. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24926/20210508_124247_jpg-1934700.JPG You...I trust...if you tell me it's Daylight bright then I believe you. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 8:05:46 PM EDT
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There's been a bunch of pics of the led version being red dot bright and there's a long thread here on them. Trijicon gets everyone confused with their 20 different models of every scope. I don't know why they never did a red dot scope before. A lot of their scopes are made by LOW who has been making red dot bright scopes for years so its not like the technology is unavailable.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 8:15:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a 1-6x24 Credo HX with the Hunter Hold BDC. Standing in the Arizona sun, with a cloudless sky, at high noon, I can most assuredly guarantee you the center dot illumination is RDS bright. It cannot be captured well on my cell phone camera, it literally halves the brightness in the image. This level of brightness is not present in the "Segmented Circle" reticles I've seen on various Credo models. You can take my word on it, or not. I have no emotional investment in the purchase, for the brand or the specific product. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24926/20210508_124247_jpg-1934700.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never seen a Trijicon that had a daylight bright reticle...even when some faceless person who owns one , says it is. I have a 1-6x24 Credo HX with the Hunter Hold BDC. Standing in the Arizona sun, with a cloudless sky, at high noon, I can most assuredly guarantee you the center dot illumination is RDS bright. It cannot be captured well on my cell phone camera, it literally halves the brightness in the image. This level of brightness is not present in the "Segmented Circle" reticles I've seen on various Credo models. You can take my word on it, or not. I have no emotional investment in the purchase, for the brand or the specific product. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24926/20210508_124247_jpg-1934700.JPG Isn't the HX touted as a brighter reticle? |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 10:08:07 PM EDT
[#18]
Yes. It is an led dot and I would assume a wire reticle. The segment one is an etched reticle which is harder to make red dot bright. The led version probably uses the same set up as on a delta Stryker or razor or other scopes made by that company.
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