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Posted: 7/17/2021 1:06:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a ton of US Made Handguard Options out there. Another one I was looking at were handguards from Grendel Hunter. U.S. Made, Anti Rotation/Anti Slip Design, Maybe about $100 shipped for a 13" Rail. I was going to grab one of those before Primary Arms marked down the DB Rail at 50% off. I figure I'll give the DB a look over in person, and if I don't care for it Ill send it back. I did speak with the owner on the phone he seemed pretty knowledgeable and helpful. I sorta feel bad I didn't pull the trigger on it. https://www.grendelhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/12-inch-Black-1.jpg https://www.grendelhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_0243.jpg The anti slip is built into the lock nut and interfaces with grooves on the barrel nut. Cerakote is also avail for $10-15 more. If the DB doesn't work out, I'll be getting one of these. I'm for sure grabbing one for my next build. https://www.byoar.com, made those hand guards for them I think. They also made the ones I posted in this thread. |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 11:13:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Unknown no-name from someone in the EE for super cheap. Works fine for a handguard substitute and to hold a weapon light.
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Posted: 7/18/2021 11:33:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unknown no-name from someone in the EE for super cheap. Works fine for a handguard substitute and to hold a weapon light. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2980/817B2B08-9955-4DDF-B54D-9887027CF73A_jpe-2018979.JPG Noveske NSR style handguards are honestly fine. Installing with shims is a PITA for some is all. |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 11:46:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LaRue Tactical Lok Picatinny (LAT) Handguards or LaRue Tactical Slick Picatinny (SAT) Handguards $10/inch are a good deal. https://www.larue.com/category/parts-accessories/handguards/handguards-ar15/ Damn...that is a deal.......and those are rock solid..... |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 11:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn...that is a deal.......and those are rock solid..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LaRue Tactical Lok Picatinny (LAT) Handguards or LaRue Tactical Slick Picatinny (SAT) Handguards $10/inch are a good deal. https://www.larue.com/category/parts-accessories/handguards/handguards-ar15/ Damn...that is a deal.......and those are rock solid..... My only complaint is some arent actually in stock. Great option if you dont mind waiting for them. Made to order, etc |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 12:19:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My only complaint is some arent actually in stock. Great option if you dont mind waiting for them. Made to order, etc I just ordered the SAT. For a GWOT inspired build. Hopefully I can get a shop to mill out a couple of Mlok slots on the bottom and sides. I won't mind the wait, I have other rifles as is. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 4:02:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If free float is not a requirement my cheapest is Magpul. I don't care for clam shells but they work. This, particularly since OP states his is a 9mm. Why bother with a $450 free float hand guard on a short range weapon? I suppose some folks out there chase group size with their 9mm AR's, but I'm not one of them. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 4:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This, particularly since OP states his is a 9mm. Why bother with a $450 free float hand guard on a short range weapon? I suppose some folks out there chase group size with their 9mm AR's, but I'm not one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If free float is not a requirement my cheapest is Magpul. I don't care for clam shells but they work. This, particularly since OP states his is a 9mm. Why bother with a $450 free float hand guard on a short range weapon? I suppose some folks out there chase group size with their 9mm AR's, but I'm not one of them. It depends if his barrel is already set up with a delta ring/etc. Otherwise it's quicker just to torque on a barrel nut and slide on a free float. Magpul is an awesome choice for the money. Realistically it's the best bag for your buck if you want to add a VFG/Light/QD Sling Mount |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 5:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It depends if his barrel is already set up with a delta ring/etc. Otherwise it's quicker just to torque on a barrel nut and slide on a free float. Magpul is an awesome choice for the money. Realistically it's the best bag for your buck if you want to add a VFG/Light/QD Sling Mount Good point about the Delta ring. Hadn't thought of that. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 5:28:13 PM EDT
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I got ~100 ARs, with everything from exotic monolithics to cheap .mil handguards.
I always want free floats for my rifle caliber ARs for improved accuracy, but on a 9mm it does nothing for you. Clamp on FFs HGs only contribute as a failure point here. Honestly, a cheap Chinese 2 piece quad rail HG would be perfectly fine here. They are dirt cheap and more durable than any $$$$ FF HG. The Gucci brigade will shit on this comment but they are overcompensators with no engineering knowledge. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 5:40:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ohhunt $40 mlok handguards have been great on several budget builds. Buddy got these they are Rock solid and came with barrel nut. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 5:59:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buddy got these they are Rock solid and came with barrel nut. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Ohhunt $40 mlok handguards have been great on several budget builds. Buddy got these they are Rock solid and came with barrel nut. Crazy, anti rotation and anti slip for $40. Looks just like the Aim Sports. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 7:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got ~100 ARs, with everything from exotic monolithics to cheap .mil handguards. I always want free floats for my rifle caliber ARs for improved accuracy, but on a 9mm it does nothing for you. Clamp on FFs HGs only contribute as a failure point here. Honestly, a cheap Chinese 2 piece quad rail HG would be perfectly fine here. They are dirt cheap and more durable than any $$$$ FF HG. The Gucci brigade will shit on this comment but they are overcompensators with no engineering knowledge. How are Daniel Defense Omega two piece free floats, made by people that know more about engineering than you, are a failure point? Of all the things that have failed on my rifles, that was never one of them. You can have all of the Chinese garbage, which is fine for you you but not for me. If paying a few extra dollars that I already have keeps an American employed, I'm going to do it. There's nothing overcompensating about it either. That's just a false dichotomy, which is a fact. You do you. My guns are for me, therefore they will be kitted out how I want them to satisfy me and not you. The OP asked, so we answered. If you're not okay with the answers, then the problem is not us or about handguards anymore. Kapeesh? |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 8:12:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are Daniel Defense Omega two piece free floats, made by people that know more about engineering than you, are a failure point? Of all the things that have failed on my rifles, that was never one of them. You can have all of the Chinese garbage, which is fine for you you but not for me. If paying a few extra dollars that I already have keeps an American employed, I'm going to do it. There's nothing overcompensating about it either. That's just a false dichotomy, which is a fact. You do you. My guns are for me, therefore they will be kitted out how I want them to satisfy me and not you. The OP asked, so we answered. If you're not okay with the answers, then the problem is not us or about handguards anymore. Kapeesh? LOL, the only person not okay with answers are you. Sorry if you are butthurt. As I said, I want only FF rails for my rifles. The pros from improved accuracy outweigh the con of lower durability. With PCCs only effective out to a limited distance, there is no point. FF rails create a large amount of torque and stress at the barrel nut. That can cause breakage or shifting if you fall on your rifle or apply a lot of force on the HG. The military has documented this fairly well. Like I said, the ignorant will  And who says kapeesh on forums? Reads like some loser who watches too many movies and tries too hard to act tough. 
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Posted: 7/19/2021 8:19:20 PM EDT
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Lately I've been liking the Centurion Mlok rails.
Put a 15" on my newest SPR and a 10" on one of my M16 uppers.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 8:36:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, the only person not okay with answers are you. Sorry if you are butthurt. As I said, I want only FF rails for my rifles. The pros from improved accuracy outweigh the con of lower durability. With PCCs only effective out to a limited distance, there is no point. FF rails create a large amount of torque and stress at the barrel nut. That can cause breakage or shifting if you fall on your rifle or apply a lot of force on the HG. The military has documented this fairly well. Like I said, the ignorant will And who says kapeesh on forums? Reads like some loser who watches too many movies and tries too hard to act tough. If you have to attack someone then again, the issue isn't the topic of handguards. The OP asked us a question, we answered, IDGAF what you think we should do, that was never the question which is the whole point here. And if these things are so problematic, then explain the URG and how it's the way forward. Every bit of your counter is a fallacy, the only ignorance here is your projections of it. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 9:38:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, the only person not okay with answers are you. Sorry if you are butthurt. As I said, I want only FF rails for my rifles. The pros from improved accuracy outweigh the con of lower durability. With PCCs only effective out to a limited distance, there is no point. FF rails create a large amount of torque and stress at the barrel nut. That can cause breakage or shifting if you fall on your rifle or apply a lot of force on the HG. The military has documented this fairly well. Like I said, the ignorant will And who says kapeesh on forums? Reads like some loser who watches too many movies and tries too hard to act tough.  |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 9:52:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have to attack someone then again, the issue isn't the topic of handguards. The OP asked us a question, we answered, IDGAF what you think we should do, that was never the question which is the whole point here. And if these things are so problematic, then explain the URG and how it's the way forward. Every bit of your counter is a fallacy, the only ignorance here is your projections of it.  Buddy I think you may be emotionally overinvested into this thread. You lash out like a petulant child with every recommendation you don't agree with and interpret every comment as being an attack on you. Sounds a bit psychotic honestly. Please get help. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 10:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buddy I think you may be emotionally overinvested into this thread. You lash out like a petulant child with every recommendation you don't agree with and interpret every comment as being an attack on you. Sounds a bit psychotic honestly. Please get help. So you can't prove what you said and are projecting again? Cheapest handguard I would use is a Midwest Industries, BCM, maybe even a CMT. They keep Americans employed and have qualities that I like because gosh, I buy my stuff for ME. Anyone that tries to to get triggered and mad because I don't want something else, has serious issues, fact. But you do you, I'll continue doing e and enjoying the things I paid for that won't break. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 10:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPot to kettle, majorly. You were the one that had a meltdown when I recommended an MI tool. Then you did the same thing in another thread where I suggested a Badger Ordinance scope leveling tool. Both threads you were not the OP. In other threads continuing it you've gotten them to be locked for the personal attacks So all of that is all of you projecting it into me. You're welcome for each and every time I've had to remind you of your hypocrisy. The very fact that you came back to this thread just to flame it on is telling. I should have done this way earlier, you have nothing of value that I would ever want to hear and your petulance at others whose only "crimes" are suggesting things that pains you for no other reason, other than being an insufferable miser and vindictive post stalking's I shall suffer no more. Blocked both of you actually. And from this thread, because people are still going to buy what they want no matter how many times a few miserable persons act. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 7:57:38 AM EDT
[#21]
I have a UTG PRO (made in Michigan) that was about $100 and it's served me well on a range toy/3-gun rifle. Absolute cheapest? Plastic clamshells.
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:52:41 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a ton of US Made Handguard Options out there. Another one I was looking at were handguards from Grendel Hunter. U.S. Made, Anti Rotation/Anti Slip Design, Maybe about $100 shipped for a 13" Rail. I was going to grab one of those before Primary Arms marked down the DB Rail at 50% off. I figure I'll give the DB a look over in person, and if I don't care for it Ill send it back. I did speak with the owner on the phone he seemed pretty knowledgeable and helpful. I sorta feel bad I didn't pull the trigger on it. https://www.grendelhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/12-inch-Black-1.jpg https://www.grendelhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_0243.jpg The anti slip is built into the lock nut and interfaces with grooves on the barrel nut. Cerakote is also avail for $10-15 more. If the DB doesn't work out, I'll be getting one of these. I'm for sure grabbing one for my next build. I like the look and price of this. I've been looking for a budget priced hand guard with the top smooth like this. I wish it didn't have the dear roll mark, but it might not be a deal breaker. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 5:33:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI ordered an HQ 10" from that first link of yours today. I like the look of it, that it has the anti rotation tabs and that it's made in the USA. My AR has a full length free float guard and I like the look of a shorter guard, plus this one has a different look. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 5:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the look and price of this. I've been looking for a budget priced hand guard with the top smooth like this. I wish it didn't have the dear roll mark, but it might not be a deal breaker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are a ton of US Made Handguard Options out there. Another one I was looking at were handguards from Grendel Hunter. U.S. Made, Anti Rotation/Anti Slip Design, Maybe about $100 shipped for a 13" Rail. I was going to grab one of those before Primary Arms marked down the DB Rail at 50% off. I figure I'll give the DB a look over in person, and if I don't care for it Ill send it back. I did speak with the owner on the phone he seemed pretty knowledgeable and helpful. I sorta feel bad I didn't pull the trigger on it. https://www.grendelhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/12-inch-Black-1.jpg https://www.grendelhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_0243.jpg The anti slip is built into the lock nut and interfaces with grooves on the barrel nut. Cerakote is also avail for $10-15 more. If the DB doesn't work out, I'll be getting one of these. I'm for sure grabbing one for my next build. I like the look and price of this. I've been looking for a budget priced hand guard with the top smooth like this. I wish it didn't have the dear roll mark, but it might not be a deal breaker. Looks like HQ from sportsmanguide is the exact same rail on closer inspection. Either are probably good. Grendel will ship to me, sportsmans wont for some reason lmao. Pick whichever roll mark is less of an eyesore honestly. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 6:31:23 PM EDT
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The ones for sale on SG site are also made by byoar guys. You can’t be the price from SG if you’re a member.
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Posted: 7/20/2021 6:47:33 PM EDT
[#26]
The MOE SL on my carbine was around $35
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Posted: 7/20/2021 7:14:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The MOE SL on my carbine was around $35 True but keep in mind: If you have a virgin/non pinned FSB barrel. Bare minimum is like: Lowpro Gas Block (Drill and Tap for handguard retainer since no gas tube on a 9mm or chop a gas tube so it's just the nub) $25-35 Delta Ring/barrel Nut $20 Magpul Handguard $35 Already at $85 there. Also to get a barrel nut wrench that doesn't suck for milspec nuts; you kinda need a PRI |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 7:43:11 PM EDT
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I have several Troy TRX and Alpha rails that work fine. A number of PSA take offs and a PA Radical as well. Functionally I haven’t found any difference, but I’m admittedly not a heavy user. My hardest use rifles have plastic hand guards.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 1:48:52 PM EDT
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DB Handguard arrived today.
Machining looks excellent and it is very thin in the hand. Unfortunately there is nothing that would prevent this from sliding forward besides clamping pressure from screws. Gonna send this back, damn shame too. If a company is going to make a rigid rail, the least they can do is make it so it cant slide forward. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 2:10:00 PM EDT
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One of my favorites is nbs mlok. It's cheap, slim, and light. And I've used quite a few at this point.
Still have 2 12inch handguards in use. 1 on a 12.5 upper and 1 on a 16inch upper. They have been as solid for me as anything else. It isn't like I'm using aiming systemss mounted to them anyway save for the front buis. Nbs has overall treated me well the slick side uppers tend to be a little tight for radian raptor charging handles but that is an easy fix. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 2:23:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like HQ from sportsmanguide is the exact same rail on closer inspection. Either are probably good. Grendel will ship to me, sportsmans wont for some reason lmao. Pick whichever roll mark is less of an eyesore honestly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like HQ from sportsmanguide is the exact same rail on closer inspection. Either are probably good. Grendel will ship to me, sportsmans wont for some reason lmao. Pick whichever roll mark is less of an eyesore honestly. Thanks for the info! Quoted: DB Handguard arrived today. Machining looks excellent and it is very thin in the hand. Unfortunately there is nothing that would prevent this from sliding forward besides clamping pressure from screws. Gonna send this back, damn shame too. If a company is going to make a rigid rail, the least they can do is make it so it cant slide forward. Well, that stinks. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:13:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DB Handguard arrived today. Machining looks excellent and it is very thin in the hand. Unfortunately there is nothing that would prevent this from sliding forward besides clamping pressure from screws. Gonna send this back, damn shame too. If a company is going to make a rigid rail, the least they can do is make it so it cant slide forward. It’s not going to slide off, look closer. Just snapped a few pics of the handguard I have, it’s secured on the steel barrel nut.     " />
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:44:44 PM EDT
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Lol my bad, yeah too many options mentioned in here.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:31:28 AM EDT
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Shit. I didn't see that the HQ had two tabs, and hoped it would fit on my SOLGW nut without having to change nuts. I was trying to find an SOL 9.5-10" handguard to easily replace the long one it has so there'd be no need to change the nuts but no one has anything in stock.
I wish I had seen this before I ordered, and it's too late to cancel as it's already shipped. I may send it back and just wait until I can get the SOLGW handguard. 
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Posted: 7/26/2021 12:15:50 PM EDT
[#36]
I'm sending the HQ guard back and waiting for the SOLGW ones to hopefully come back in to stock somewhere.
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Posted: 7/26/2021 12:39:57 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sending the HQ guard back and waiting for the SOLGW ones to hopefully come back in to stock somewhere. I think STNGR Oems for SOL Barrel nut , mounting hardware and slip plate look very similar |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 12:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think STNGR Oems for SOL Barrel nut , mounting hardware and slip plate look very similar Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sending the HQ guard back and waiting for the SOLGW ones to hopefully come back in to stock somewhere. I think STNGR Oems for SOL Barrel nut , mounting hardware and slip plate look very similar Thanks, I'll check them out! |
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Posted: 8/5/2021 10:43:36 PM EDT
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I'd go something decent on sale or something used from the EE.
Just bought a used $70 Odin works Mlok 13" handguard from the EE couple weeks ago. Noveske NSR N6 for $100 on sale last year/2yrs ago I think AAC Squaredrop handguard for I think $80 on sale last year ALG blem handguards ~$80-100 on sale that included an ALG SCB muzzlebrake during a Black Friday sale Depends on how the handguard is mounted. I bought a cheapo Guntec for I think 30-40 and I did not like it what so ever. It was heavy for keymod, the barrel nut didn't line up well. There were lots of hardware to tighten down. BCM is a standard go to for me since they are low profile, light and solid and typically sub 200. I like the wedgelock system from other companies as well. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 3:24:11 PM EDT
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Anyone ever heard of otsupplier?
They state "Made in USA" and prices in the $100-200 range. I kind of like this one... -800x800.jpg)
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Posted: 10/6/2021 10:40:09 AM EDT
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So, I just spend as much as possible, so I can put cool stickers on my gun safe and name drop in my tag line. LOL
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Posted: 10/6/2021 12:38:03 PM EDT
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Quoted:What is the cheapest handguard you would actually pay money for and use? I planned to use DPMS tube on my AR9. It is on my build list, but now that I pulled the rifle out of he safe, it has an unnamed Keymod tube on it. It absolutely could not be more than $50. More likely $35. But I got what I paid for. This tube secures with a lock screw coming from the bottom and I had a hell of a time lining up the rails on the handguard and receiver. Even now they are a tiny bit mismatched. Just cold not do it. Fortunately I'm not using the handguard rail for anything. DB is on my blacklist since DB380. I heard they're trying to make a comeback, but I don't trust them. MI is trusted brand. I never had any issues with their products. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 6:28:20 AM EDT
[#43]
I run this rail on my 16" OD green build
https://daytonatactical.com/products/15-inch-m-lok-free-float-rail-olive-drab-green I would never buy from them again due to their piss poor service, but I like the rail. Put at 12" in black on the wife's build and she loves it. I guess the point being inexpensive doesn't always mean "cheap". I've run some more expensive rails in the past and never found them to be anything special. That's not to say they were bad, just that they didn't bring anything to the table that appealed to me. |
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Posted: 10/14/2021 7:48:10 PM EDT
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I just got a couple of the Diamondback rails mentioned above, in 9" length for a couple of pistol builds. They aren't anything special, but they do mount up solid and hold the barrel on, which is the primary job I have them for. Their IS nothing to keep them from slipping forward in the mounting system, but it does clamp on pretty tight. We'll see what happens when I get some rounds through them. It looks easy enough to drill and tap the rail for a set screw, if necessary.
I got them on sale for $37.99/ea. and I'm happy with what I got for the price. I don't know I'd pay the $85 they're listed at now, honestly. \ Once I get some rounds through them, I'll try to remember to report back on if they turned out to be turds or not. |
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