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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 11:57:26 AM EDT
Sorta of a random question. I was recently talking with a friend who knows so guys in Vietnam. They told him about the apparently new manufacture Bakelite stock sets they make as replacements for the old M16s from back during the war. Ive only gotten one picture from him and I haven't been able to find any others. Does anyone else know anything about these or have any images? Thanks.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:00:12 PM EDT
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Pic isn't showing for me but I'm curious what they look like.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:07:45 PM EDT
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Honestly it just looks like a standard M16A1 stock set painted light redish brown but the Vietnamese guys my buddy knows swear they are Bakelite. I guess its entirely possible they just painted over it.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:12:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
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Pics I found of some refurbished Vietnamese Militia M16s.
 
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:15:30 PM EDT
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Those look like the same things to me. From that bottom picture it does just look like brown painted black stock sets. Next question is why paint them that color in the first place?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:47:06 PM EDT
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That last pic? If you look inside the pistol grip, it looks black.
My guess is simply painted.... |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:47:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ovewatch3985: Those look like the same things to me. From that bottom picture it does just look like brown painted black stock sets. Next question is why paint them that color in the first place? My guess would be any combination of the following: 1. Better reflective properties. Black furniture gets bloody hot when sitting in the sun, especially if gloves are not required PPE. 2. Camouflage in red clay soil. 3. Uniform identification. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:52:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjk1: My guess would be any combination of the following: 1. Better reflective properties. Black furniture gets bloody hot when sitting in the sun, especially if gloves are not required PPE. 2. Camouflage in red clay soil. 3. Uniform identification. Yeah those are all good points. I might have to have my buddy pry those Vietnamese fellas he knows to see if they have any photos of the supposed new bakelite sets |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:55:13 PM EDT
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Okay, that last pic I saw on Reddit and actually just found the post. Debate there between Bakelite and paint but paint was the prevailing theory.
Some speculation was they were for ceremonial use to resemble wood. A guy from Vietnam chimed in that they don't make Bakelite at all. He suggested some local militias painted their stuff for ID. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:58:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tstetz: Okay, that last pic I saw on Reddit and actually just found the post. Debate there between Bakelite and paint but paint was the prevailing theory. Some speculation was they were for ceremonial use to resemble wood. A guy from Vietnam chimed in that they don't make Bakelite at all. He suggested some local militias painted their stuff for ID. LOL, knowing my buddy his Vietnamese friends use Reddit and probably found that post but didnt dive to deep into it. Good find. Still even if they dont make any Bakelite sets would be a fun clone build to do. Get an HRA and wear down the finish and paint the stock reddish brown |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:59:51 PM EDT
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Here's the Reddit thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/oAtL69Ax8r Oh yeah, any excuse for a new clone build, lol! |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 1:21:30 PM EDT
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Definitely paint.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 1:33:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tstetz: Here's the Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/oAtL69Ax8r Oh yeah, any excuse for a new clone build, lol! How did you find the thread so quick? When I tried too all that came up was Articles about the M16 during the war |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 2:08:54 PM EDT
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I didn't know Domino's delivery drivers delivered 5.56 at 3200fps?
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Posted: 3/12/2024 7:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ovewatch3985: How did you find the thread so quick? When I tried too all that came up was Articles about the M16 during the war I remembered seeing it recently. I think I searched "Vietnamese M16" within Reddit. I had already had it copied when I came back to the thread and saw the other pics posted. |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 7:20:39 AM EDT
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You can see where the coating has chipped off some of the corners.
Odd that they'd refinish the furniture and not bother to slap some paint on those very, very worn receivers. |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 9:15:44 AM EDT
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Very weird looking, yellow butt plate and that Velcro on the stock….. I guess it goes with the teal fatigues??
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2024 11:24:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mlin]
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Simple, red and yellow are the symbolic color of communist party in lots of Asian country, i.e. Vietnam & China. Maybe parade rifle of some sort???
The 2nd picture osprey21 posted showing some flowers and festival decor on the podium is a hint that those rifles are not issued for regular troops.  |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 7:26:54 AM EDT
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Interesting. As far as I know the classic Bakelite turned into that distinct orange color after long time usage. And there are far better polymer plastics today.
Although they look like intended for ceremonial purpose, I don’t see why they would use a rifle that was used by the hated enemy. They could use a SKS or AK with wood furniture and heroic history easily … strange for sure. Off Topic: I know a fatherly friend who says he still cannot bear to see US weapons in “their” hands. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2024 12:31:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunslinger-Mike: Interesting. As far as I know the classic Bakelite turned into that distinct orange color after long time usage. And there are far better polymer plastics today. Although they look like intended for ceremonial purpose, I don’t see why they would use a rifle that was used by the hated enemy. They could use a SKS or AK with wood furniture and heroic history easily … strange for sure. Off Topic: I know a fatherly friend who says he still cannot bear to see US weapons in “their” hands. Based friend lmao, I did find it pretty strange that the Vietnamese seemingly used the M16 on a fairly common basis after the war. But, a weapon is a weapon I guess. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 8:42:07 PM EDT
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There was lots of American equipment left behind after we left. Why not repurpose it?
I wonder what shape they are in internally after this long. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 11:31:25 PM EDT
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A bunch of em ended up in Central America in the 1980's thru Cuba
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Posted: 3/16/2024 7:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tiger222: Very weird looking, yellow butt plate and that Velcro on the stock….. I guess it goes with the teal fatigues?? Teal fatigues are probably meant to stand out and be noticed. Commies love that kind of garish shit. |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 6:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Teal fatigues are probably meant to stand out and be noticed. Commies love that kind of garish shit.  |
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