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Posted: 2/14/2020 12:18:54 AM EDT

I tried to peel away from work today to go shoot. Of course as soon as I get setup I get a work call and have to bail. Shot 30 rounds through my SR-15. 10 rds of Black Hills and 20 Independence 193.

Just finished cleaning it since it’s my go to HD carbine. It was absolutely filthy! I’ve run 800 rds in a day through that rifle and it wasn’t anymore dirty than 30 rds.

Maybe after 1000s of rounds you’ll get some serious buildup that’s more noticeable but I had plenty of carbon on the bolt tail that I scraped off. I’m kind of a fanatic about cleaning but I think I’m going to start letting them go closer to 1000 rounds before cleaning.

Posted: 2/14/2020 1:10:44 AM EDT

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If it’s not a life and death gun there’s no need to clean as much. If it’s a SD gun you want that thing clean and lubed at all times.

Posted: 2/14/2020 1:17:48 AM EDT

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I want a life a death gun that will run filthy and all mine do. If they don’t they’re not on the line

Posted: 2/14/2020 8:24:50 AM EDT

[#3]

If I shoot it I clean it. I field strip it, I clean it, I look it over, I lube it and I put it back together.

If it will go 1,000 rounds without cleaning that's great. But I want to start out with it cleaned and lubed and ready to go that 1,000 rounds. Not be at the 800 round mark and then get into the worst situation in the world (for me and mine) and have to shoot the shit out of it when it's already dirty as hell and the lube situation is iffy.

Posted: 2/14/2020 10:39:52 AM EDT

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It's an SR-15 Mod 2 so I'm pretty confident it will run clean or dirty. But I have always taken extra special care when it comes to weapons that I may trust my life with. I had just never only put 30 rounds through one of my ARs. Thought it was an interesting observation how dirty it was.

I'll continue cleaning after each use. My trainer / loaner carbine is an old BCM BFH with thousands of rounds through it. It doesn't get cleaned after every trip and continues to run and hold MOA.

Posted: 2/14/2020 1:23:55 PM EDT

[#5]

Balance in all things.
Over cleaning and over lubrication are not good.
Neglect is not good.
There is a happy medium.

Posted: 2/15/2020 5:27:13 PM EDT

[#6]

They don't care if they're clean. They just want lube.

Can not over lube it. It'll sling off the excess in a few shots.

Posted: 2/17/2020 5:12:20 PM EDT

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They don't care if they're clean. They just want lube.

Can not over lube it. It'll sling off the excess in a few shots.

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This part is probably the most true. Long before I used grease what I would do is squirt some CLP into the gas exhaust on the carrier and some with the bolt locked back and some on the bottom. It would work like a champ. No cleaning or disassembly and get right back into the game.

Now the question is would the bad guy wait for you to lube up your dirty rifle?

Posted: 2/17/2020 5:17:44 PM EDT

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It's an SR-15 Mod 2 so I'm pretty confident it will run clean or dirty. But I have always taken extra special care when it comes to weapons that I may trust my life with. I had just never only put 30 rounds through one of my ARs. Thought it was an interesting observation how dirty it was.

I'll continue cleaning after each use. My trainer / loaner carbine is an old BCM BFH with thousands of rounds through it. It doesn't get cleaned after every trip and continues to run and hold MOA.

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Most likely it’s the lubrication that is dirty. Think about it for a second. If you hand sand and you threw it against a dry wall, it doesn’t stick and falls down. Maybe a little dirty and easy. Now you take that same wall and make it wet and threw sand on it, you see a totally different surface.

Lube the right points and keep everything else dry tend to get less dirty.

Posted: 2/17/2020 11:32:57 PM EDT

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Most likely it’s the lubrication that is dirty. Think about it for a second. If you hand sand and you threw it against a dry wall, it doesn’t stick and falls down. Maybe a little dirty and easy. Now you take that same wall and make it wet and threw sand on it, you see a totally different surface.

Lube the right points and keep everything else dry tend to get less dirty.

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Big Army found the opposite in 2007, a quote posted on Military Times:

Heavy lubrication shown to improve M16, M4 effectiveness

By Matthew Cox - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Jul 16, 2007 17:34:05 EDT

Army weapons officials might have found a way to improve the M16 family’s performance in the desert.

“Dust chamber” tests at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md., last year show that M16 rifles and M4 carbines perform dramatically better when the weapon’s bolt assembly is heavily lubricated.

During each phase of the two-part “system assessment” at Army Test and Evaluation Command, testers fired 60,000 rounds through 10 weapon samples of each model.

Treated with light lubrication, new M16A4s and M4s, performed poorly in the extreme dust and sand conditions of the test, according to a January report from ATEC.

But when testers applied a heavy coat of lubrication to the weapons, the test results showed a “significant improvement.”

Out of the 60,000 rounds fired in each phase, the M4 stoppage-rate dropped from 9,836 with light lubrication to 678 with heavy lubrication.

The M16A4 stoppage-rate dropped from 2,124 with light lubrication to 507 with heavy lubrication, results show.

For years, Army weapons officials have preached to soldiers to virtues of applying a light coat of lubrication during weapons maintenance.

But the test results reinforce a recent change in weapons maintenance guidance Army units are practicing in Iraq and Afghanistan, said Col. Carl Lipsit, project manager for Soldier Weapons.

At the request of Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., the Army will conduct a similar dust-chamber test in August, pitting the M4 against the Heckler and Koch 416, the H&K XM8 and FNH USA’s Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle.

All of the participating weapons will be treated with a heavy coat of lubrication during the test, Lipsit said.

Posted: 2/18/2020 9:01:04 AM EDT

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Most likely it’s the lubrication that is dirty. Think about it for a second. If you hand sand and you threw it against a dry wall, it doesn’t stick and falls down. Maybe a little dirty and easy. Now you take that same wall and make it wet and threw sand on it, you see a totally different surface.

Lube the right points and keep everything else dry tend to get less dirty.

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Light lube has no ability to keep debris in suspension while heavy/ over lube does.

it's like ruining a hose on the wall while throwing sand at it.

Posted: 2/19/2020 11:28:59 PM EDT

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Yeah it’s not because I’m using too much lube. I don’t even use lube. I hit the contact points with Cherrybalmz.

Posted: 2/20/2020 10:36:09 PM EDT

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Big Army found the opposite in 2007, a quote posted on Military Times:

Heavy lubrication shown to improve M16, M4 effectiveness

By Matthew Cox - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Jul 16, 2007 17:34:05 EDT

Army weapons officials might have found a way to improve the M16 family’s performance in the desert.

“Dust chamber” tests at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md., last year show that M16 rifles and M4 carbines perform dramatically better when the weapon’s bolt assembly is heavily lubricated.

During each phase of the two-part “system assessment” at Army Test and Evaluation Command, testers fired 60,000 rounds through 10 weapon samples of each model.

Treated with light lubrication, new M16A4s and M4s, performed poorly in the extreme dust and sand conditions of the test, according to a January report from ATEC.

But when testers applied a heavy coat of lubrication to the weapons, the test results showed a “significant improvement.”

Out of the 60,000 rounds fired in each phase, the M4 stoppage-rate dropped from 9,836 with light lubrication to 678 with heavy lubrication.

The M16A4 stoppage-rate dropped from 2,124 with light lubrication to 507 with heavy lubrication, results show.

For years, Army weapons officials have preached to soldiers to virtues of applying a light coat of lubrication during weapons maintenance.

But the test results reinforce a recent change in weapons maintenance guidance Army units are practicing in Iraq and Afghanistan, said Col. Carl Lipsit, project manager for Soldier Weapons.

At the request of Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., the Army will conduct a similar dust-chamber test in August, pitting the M4 against the Heckler and Koch 416, the H&K XM8 and FNH USA’s Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle.

All of the participating weapons will be treated with a heavy coat of lubrication during the test, Lipsit said.

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I didn't say oily was bad. You're right that dirty + oily = good. Dirty + dry = bad. What I'm trying to say is with a lot of oil in the bcg, the carbon is going to stick to it and you're going to clean out dirty oil. Not that it's a bad thing or anything.

Personally I use grease, and yes, when I clean it, no matter how little I shoot, it's black as anything. It's because I'm cleaning out the grease that was on it and once done, it's spotlessly clean.

The good news is the more oil you got in it, the easier to is to clean afterwards. If you keep it dry, it will actually be harder to clean in the long run.

Posted: 2/20/2020 11:44:15 PM EDT

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I didn't say oily was bad. You're right that dirty + oily = good. Dirty + dry = bad. What I'm trying to say is with a lot of oil in the bcg, the carbon is going to stick to it and you're going to clean out dirty oil. Not that it's a bad thing or anything.

Personally I use grease

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I pretty much stopped using grease when I found out how fast -20 degree Midwest temps killed AR cycling. I do run it in the warmer months with discretion. Mainly bolt lugs/cam pin and track/carrier rails, but light.

CLP is a better all around lube, IME.

Posted: 2/21/2020 12:15:43 AM EDT

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I pretty much stopped using grease when I found out how fast -20 degree Midwest temps killed AR cycling. I do run it in the warmer months with discretion. Mainly bolt lugs/cam pin and track/carrier rails, but light.

CLP is a better all around lube, IME.

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-20F? Are you effing kidding me? I have no utility for an AR that runs in that temp because I would not be alive in that weather to shoot

Posted: 2/21/2020 7:40:37 AM EDT

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-20F? Are you effing kidding me? I have no utility for an AR that runs in that temp because I would not be alive in that weather to shoot

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Depends on where you live man.

"Cycles all ammo in all conditions" is a must for a gun thst could possibly be used in a defensive role.

FWIW, I don't make it a habit to hit the range at those temps, my Lazyboy and television are much more appealing.

Posted: 2/22/2020 9:54:05 AM EDT

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I've never used grease on an AR. Don't know anyone who knows the weapon that does.

Oil, lots of it. Motor oil, gun oil, CLP. Never WD40 or remlube.

Overlube the bolt and carrier contact points. Too much?.....just right. If in any doubt, lube again. Clean it off your shooting glasses.

This has worked for me for decades with 20k+ rounds in several AR's

YMCV

Posted: 2/23/2020 10:24:59 AM EDT

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I've never used grease on an AR. Don't know anyone who knows the weapon that does.

Oil, lots of it. Motor oil, gun oil, CLP. Never WD40 or remlube.

Overlube the bolt and carrier contact points. Too much?.....just right. If in any doubt, lube again. Clean it off your shooting glasses.

This has worked for me for decades with 20k+ rounds in several AR's

YMCV

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Grease, especially a light grease, is an excellent lubricant for the AR and most other firearms.

Lots of folks post on ARFCOM about their success with it all the time.

Heck, the CherryBalmz that everyone is talking so highly of, and which the OP is using, is a light grease!

Posted: 2/23/2020 11:11:10 AM EDT

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The only place I would put grease on an AR is hammer / trigger and disconnector, and the cam pin.

Not necessary though.

The BCG and upper receiver do well to be slathered with oil and the more the merrier.

Lightly lubing to try to keep the gun clean is the wrong way. The more lube you have, the more filth you can suspend and keep the gun running.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:00:09 PM EDT

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They don't care if they're clean. They just want lube.

Can not over lube it. It'll sling off the excess in a few shots.

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I love hearing a GunTuber tell me which part is 'the heart of the AR platform'. I've always said lube is the heart of the platform. Mechanically, it should handle practically anything so long as it's sufficiently lubed.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:05:39 PM EDT

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Standing in line at Rural King, I notice a case of tubes of grease. It's thick and green, but has pictures of a tractor and dump truck on it. Says it's for high temperatures, extreme pressures, and works for heavy duty bearings.

I think, "Sounds like the BCG in an AR."

Been using Lucas X-treme Duty Grease on my BCG, and pistol slides ever since. Clean less often and just add a little Heavy Duty Gun Oil to the other parts now and then.

No problems.

Posted: 2/24/2020 6:30:54 PM EDT

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I've never used grease on an AR. Don't know anyone who knows the weapon that does.

Oil, lots of it. Motor oil, gun oil, CLP. Never WD40 or remlube.

Overlube the bolt and carrier contact points. Too much?.....just right. If in any doubt, lube again. Clean it off your shooting glasses.

This has worked for me for decades with 20k+ rounds in several AR's

YMCV

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Plenty of people who "know the weapon" like to use grease on their BCG. In fact, look at virtually any mechanical device that is unsealed and exposed to the elements and they all use grease not oil.

I prefer to oil my bolt but your statement is silly.

Posted: 2/25/2020 6:03:29 AM EDT

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I apply CLP after shooting and before it goes back in the safe. 4 or 5 drops in the bolt carrier vent holes, a couple drops on the bolt lugs and a drop on the cam pin. The next time it gets fired carbon and oil get blown out the vent holes the first few rounds.

I also use Black Swan plumbers grease on my bolt lugs after they get a wipe down. It has a temperature range from -20° to 250°. I only put it on the bolt lugs.

Posted: 2/25/2020 11:09:24 PM EDT

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Standing in line at Rural King, I notice a case of tubes of grease. It's thick and green, but has pictures of a tractor and dump truck on it. Says it's for high temperatures, extreme pressures, and works for heavy duty bearings.

I think, "Sounds like the BCG in an AR."

Been using Lucas X-treme Duty Grease on my BCG, and pistol slides ever since. Clean less often and just add a little Heavy Duty Gun Oil to the other parts now and then.

No problems.

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Except there's no bearings in the AR.

The BCG sliding back and forth in the upper is more like a piston in a cylinder and does better with oil.

Posted: 2/27/2020 1:49:00 AM EDT

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?? Oh. You were serious.

So....in your mind, a piston with more surface area experiencing friction needs less lubrication than a bearing?

Assuming you're picturing an internal combustion engine, in which a piston is constantly bathed in motor oil....and you're translating that to the BCG of an AR-15 which has no oil reservoir, much less a system to constantly bathe the BCG...

Wait, how does this all work inside your head again?

Posted: 2/28/2020 6:44:37 AM EDT

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Posted: 3/4/2020 8:22:44 PM EDT

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Plenty of people who "know the weapon" like to use grease on their BCG. In fact, look at virtually any mechanical device that is unsealed and exposed to the elements and they all use grease not oil.

I prefer to oil my bolt but your statement is silly.

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Agreed. I keep unsealed systems greased up and running every day, pistons get heavily greased. Ar15 bolt is just another bolt that I grease. I also add a couple drops of lube so that it will spread itself around to spots that might need it.

Grease all the things!

Posted: 3/10/2020 9:02:24 PM EDT

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Search for the BCM rifle with 14K plus without cleaning .. filthy 14 I think

Posted: 3/11/2020 6:50:05 AM EDT

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Search for the BCM rifle with 14K plus without cleaning .. filthy 14 I think

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31k+

Points of interest:

"We have never used a bore brush in the barrel of this gun. "

"If you are carrying a gun for real, you need to be looking at it every 5,000 rounds or so. But if your cleaning takes more than 10 to 15 minutes, you are wasting your time on nonsense."

Posted: 3/11/2020 1:44:27 PM EDT

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They don't care if they're clean. They just want lube.

Can not over lube it. It'll sling off the excess in a few shots.

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They do when supressed.

I let mine go about a thousand rounds, lube only. Started to have FTFs until I wiped down the firing pin.

Posted: 3/11/2020 1:54:42 PM EDT

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I usually use 5w30, but lately I've been using cam assembly lube. Its grease, but on the runny side.

Posted: 3/11/2020 4:51:05 PM EDT

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They'll run plenty dirty.

Posted: 3/11/2020 6:18:31 PM EDT

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They do when supressed.

I let mine go about a thousand rounds, lube only. Started to have FTFs until I wiped down the firing pin.

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People don't think it be like it is...

Posted: 3/11/2020 6:26:25 PM EDT

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Clean? Just add lube.

Tig posted one of my pics above.

Posted: 3/11/2020 8:21:46 PM EDT

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Clean? Just add lube.

Tig posted one of my pics above.

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@MisterPX

I thought that was yours man! (Just wasn't sure).

I've never made it past 1k....my OCD gets the best of me.

Posted: 3/11/2020 8:24:11 PM EDT

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Here's another....IIRC, this one belongs to @krdt.

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They'll run longer than most think dirty....just keep adding lube.

Posted: 3/11/2020 8:25:30 PM EDT

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I thought that was yours man! (Just wasn't sure).

I've never nade it past 1k....my OCD gets the best of me.

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If you old school guys want to see more, there are a couple more pics on hunt101.

Oddly enough, that pic made it as a PSA meme, as well as a USMC meme.... talk about pride!

Posted: 3/11/2020 8:41:39 PM EDT

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If you old school guys want to see more, there are a couple more pics on hunt101.

Oddly enough, that pic made it as a PSA meme, as well as a USMC meme.... talk about pride!

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I've seen your pics no less than 5 different locations. I dig those dirty AR pics.....not sure why?

Posted: 3/11/2020 8:48:17 PM EDT

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I've seen your pics no less than 5 different locations. I dig those dirty AR pics.....not sure why?

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Quoting Tig because he's been the most helpful to me on the forum. My question is as a semi new guy to the AR world (just now taking it super serial) what parts of the BCG do I actually lube up? How does one actually excessively lube to the point of decreasing failure. I ask as I'm taking a few classes this spring and fall and plan to run my guns hard. And I'd love to over lube than under lube. Do I want to use grease instead of oil? So many questions. Up until now I've gotten away with some motor oil.

Posted: 3/11/2020 8:58:08 PM EDT

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Quoting Tig because he's been the most helpful to me on the forum. My question is as a semi new guy to the AR world (just now taking it super serial) what parts of the BCG do I actually lube up? How does one actually excessively lube to the point of decreasing failure. I ask as I'm taking a few classes this spring and fall and plan to run my guns hard. And I'd love to over lube than under lube. Do I want to use grease instead of oil? So many questions. Up until now I've gotten away with some motor oil.

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Oil vs grease or mixture of both, everybody has their personal preference.

Then there is LV's perspective....

LINK

Posted: 3/11/2020 9:07:09 PM EDT

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Here's another....IIRC, this one belongs to @krdt.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20200311-192151_Gallery_jpg-1311720.JPG

They'll run longer than most think dirty....just keep adding lube.

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Lol. Yep, that's one of mine. I think the round count on that one was around 2,600 all suppressed... not all that bad, really.

Since we're talking dirty, here is 3,200rds suppressed... :D.

Also, lubed with 100% grease (my own mix of Super Lube grease cut with oil).

Posted: 3/11/2020 9:10:52 PM EDT

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Lol. Yep, that's one of mine. I think the round count on that one was around 2,600 all suppressed... not all that bad, really.

Since we're talking dirty, here is 3,200rds suppressed... :D.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-06.jpg

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-09.jpg

Also, lubed with 100% grease (my own mix of Super Lube grease cut with oil).

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Dirty bitch!
Love it. Thanks for responding man. 3200 suppressed, I'd say its reliable.

Posted: 3/11/2020 9:45:01 PM EDT

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Quoting Tig because he's been the most helpful to me on the forum. My question is as a semi new guy to the AR world (just now taking it super serial) what parts of the BCG do I actually lube up? How does one actually excessively lube to the point of decreasing failure. I ask as I'm taking a few classes this spring and fall and plan to run my guns hard. And I'd love to over lube than under lube. Do I want to use grease instead of oil? So many questions. Up until now I've gotten away with some motor oil.

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For my test rifle, I lubed the BC rails, and where the bolt met the bcg. Squit squit means excess will make it's way to the rec ext spring.

Posted: 3/11/2020 9:47:35 PM EDT

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Lol. Yep, that's one of mine. I think the round count on that one was around 2,600 all suppressed... not all that bad, really.

Since we're talking dirty, here is 3,200rds suppressed... :D.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-06.jpg

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-09.jpg

Also, lubed with 100% grease (my own mix of Super Lube grease cut with oil).

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That's interesting....seems like 1 suppressed means about 4 unsuppressed. Based on pics.

Posted: 3/11/2020 10:11:46 PM EDT

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run em wet and put em away dirty

Posted: 3/11/2020 10:17:15 PM EDT

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Lol. Yep, that's one of mine. I think the round count on that one was around 2,600 all suppressed... not all that bad, really.

Since we're talking dirty, here is 3,200rds suppressed... :D.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-06.jpg

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-09.jpg

Also, lubed with 100% grease (my own mix of Super Lube grease cut with oil).

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Here's another....IIRC, this one belongs to @krdt.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20200311-192151_Gallery_jpg-1311720.JPG

They'll run longer than most think dirty....just keep adding lube.

Lol. Yep, that's one of mine. I think the round count on that one was around 2,600 all suppressed... not all that bad, really.

Since we're talking dirty, here is 3,200rds suppressed... :D.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-06.jpg

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.121419.Carbon.Bukkake-URG-RS-09.jpg

Also, lubed with 100% grease (my own mix of Super Lube grease cut with oil).

Maaaaaaan it'd be such a relief for me when I finally cleaned that gun.

Beautiful though. 3200 suppressed is wild, I've never done more than 400 or 500. Doing a carbine class next weekend where we're supposed to shoot 1200+, and I'll see how long I can hold out.

CLP for me, I'll just keep dousing it.

Posted: 3/11/2020 10:28:15 PM EDT

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Maaaaaaan it'd be such a relief for me when I finally cleaned that gun.

Beautiful though. 3200 suppressed is wild, I've never done more than 400 or 500. Doing a carbine class next weekend where we're supposed to shoot 1200+, and I'll see how long I can hold out.

CLP for me, I'll just keep dousing it.

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G96 that bitch wetter than wet. She won't choke.

Posted: 3/12/2020 7:53:11 AM EDT

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31k+

Points of interest:

"We have never used a bore brush in the barrel of this gun. "

"If you are carrying a gun for real, you need to be looking at it every 5,000 rounds or so. But if your cleaning takes more than 10 to 15 minutes, you are wasting your time on nonsense."

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Search for the BCM rifle with 14K plus without cleaning .. filthy 14 I think

31k+

Points of interest:

"We have never used a bore brush in the barrel of this gun. "

"If you are carrying a gun for real, you need to be looking at it every 5,000 rounds or so. But if your cleaning takes more than 10 to 15 minutes, you are wasting your time on nonsense."

5K is a solid interval. Gotta inspect the BCG then too

Posted: 3/12/2020 8:10:24 AM EDT

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G96 that bitch wetter than wet. She won't choke.

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Maaaaaaan it'd be such a relief for me when I finally cleaned that gun.

Beautiful though. 3200 suppressed is wild, I've never done more than 400 or 500. Doing a carbine class next weekend where we're supposed to shoot 1200+, and I'll see how long I can hold out.

CLP for me, I'll just keep dousing it.

G96 that bitch wetter than wet. She won't choke.

It almost physically pains me to let my guns get that filthy, but I'm gonna try

All I've ever used is this safariland clp, probably because this is what I got at Cabelas when I got my first AR a few years back. Is that G96 stuff much different?

Posted: 3/12/2020 10:36:55 AM EDT

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It almost physically pains me to let my guns get that filthy, but I'm gonna try

All I've ever used is this safariland clp, probably because this is what I got at Cabelas when I got my first AR a few years back. Is that G96 stuff much different?

https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/840/840573.jpg

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Never tried that, I like G96. I doubt that there is that much difference in CLP formulas, at least not enough that 1 works/ another doesn't.

I grease my cam pins/bolt lugs/extension also. Everybody has their pet method. Key is keeping it lubed.

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Never tried that, I like G96. I doubt that there is that much difference in CLP formulas, at least not enough that 1 works/ another doesn't.

I grease my cam pins/bolt lugs/extension also. Everybody has their pet method. Key is keeping it lubed.

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It almost physically pains me to let my guns get that filthy, but I'm gonna try

All I've ever used is this safariland clp, probably because this is what I got at Cabelas when I got my first AR a few years back. Is that G96 stuff much different?

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Never tried that, I like G96. I doubt that there is that much difference in CLP formulas, at least not enough that 1 works/ another doesn't.

I grease my cam pins/bolt lugs/extension also. Everybody has their pet method. Key is keeping it lubed.

Gotcha. I've got various greases on hand for other projects and uses, plus synthetic motor oil and a few random lube-type products.

I dab grease periodically on my fcg and buffer springs anyway, might do a little touch in those spots you mentioned too. Gonna try to run a couple hundred rds this weekend again, and check it all out afterwards. My class is actually the following w/e so I've got one more chance to pressure test my stuff.

I do generally keep it pretty well drowned in oil though, yep. Squirt in the ejection port and work the CH a few times, then blast away again.

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