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The Primary Arms GLx 2x ACSS Prism Optic (Page 1 of 22)
Posted: 3/17/2020 4:11:05 PM EDT
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Without request and under no obligation, PA sent me a prototype of their new prism optic, a 2x ACCS model. I had been critical of the size of the reticle in the 1x Cyclops prism, and Marshall wanted my feedback on this one. I like it. PA link industry forum topic https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Sneak-Peak-on-new-GLX-2X/325-294456/ My Review at The New Rifleman http://www.thenewrifleman.com/is-the-primary-arms-glx-2x-the-best-value-in-low-power-prism-optics/ My narrated video  Primary Arms GLx 2x Prism Here it is:   the reticle is not too small in the field of view. My eye can quickly find it, with the illumination both on or off.  the mount is very robust and snag free (thank you for not using fat colt knobs!)  I was easily hitting a 12 inch steel plate at 300 yards using Wolf Gold shooting prone off this bag  Here is a zoomed in cell phone pic through the reticle at a stop sign at a measured 200 yards away. The glass is very bright and crisp  It will work in a carry handle, and PA said they will be releasing a carry handle specific riser that will allow you to look through the riser and see the iron sights.  My optic came with three different riser heights. They are aluminum with steel inserts i believe  |
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2 eyes open is similar to my 1.5x ACOG
made in China PA webiste sec says 11 oz |
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
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GLX is our mid tier. This particular optic is made in a high quality OEM factory in China that we have been doing business with for 10+ years. It is our design built to LE grade specs. Currently the non prism GLX scopes are made in the Philippines.
This 2X has our latest illumination technology giving true daylight illumination with a etched reticle. Brighter than any prism we test other than dual illumination Acogs. Thanks Marshall |
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Originally Posted By Ruins:
@marsh1 Is this scopes delivery still on schedule? Considering...et al |
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If you need more than 8 rounds in a 1911 to solve your problem, you need friends with rifles.
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Originally Posted By Ruins:
@marsh1 Is this scopes delivery still on schedule? Considering...et al 
I wish I could say this about our 1-6X factory in Wuhan |
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Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia: @MARSH1 How bad is it in Wuhan? You guys have any of your staff over there? |
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Originally Posted By eddie500:
Why would you want an optic like this instead of a 1-6x optic? This optic was specifically designed for self defense and LE use. It is lightweight, seamless transition from close to max self defense distance, no change in reticle size when making a transition, true daylight bright etched reticle (only available in select 1-6 with limited reticle), fewer moving parts enhance reliability. To name a few. |
| half the weight, half the size, probably more robust, super clear glass... This is finally a low-power ACOG competitor, at a third of the price. Why do people buy 1.5x and 2x ACOGS over a 1-6x? |
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
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Originally Posted By MRW:
half the weight, half the size, probably more robust, super clear glass... This is finally a low-power ACOG competitor, at a third of the price. Why do people buy 1.5x and 2x ACOGS over a 1-6x? I want another couple of 1.5 ACOGs, but the price is higher than I want to outlay. This is the price I don’t have an issue paying. |
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver: Exactly what you posted. I want another couple of 1.5 ACOGs, but the price is higher than I want to outlay. This is the price I don’t have an issue paying. |
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
GLX is our mid tier. This particular optic is made in a high quality OEM factory in China that we have been doing business with for 10+ years. It is our design built to LE grade specs. Currently the non prism GLX scopes are made in the Philippines. This 2X has our latest illumination technology giving true daylight illumination with a etched reticle. Brighter than any prism we test other than dual illumination Acogs. Thanks Marshall |
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MRW and Marshall, thanks for sharing! Looks like an acog base for mounting options. Nice. I was wondering what the country of origin was being that it was gold product. Thanks again for disclosing that. Thank you for also sharing that the reticle brightness is daylight bright. Very cool. I would assume that it's brighter than the SLx line of prisms? |
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Originally Posted By MRW: 2 eyes open is similar to my 1.5x ACOG made in China PA webiste sec says 11 oz Is this weight with or without the mount? I typically use an aftermarket and lighter weight mount for acogs. Is the reticle brighter than the SLx line of prismatic sights? |
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Originally Posted By dotcombust: Is this [11oz] weight with or without the mount? @Marsh1 Good question. I assumed that was with the mount attached.. |
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Originally Posted By SCR556: Does the production model include the different risers? Yes |
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Originally Posted By dotcombust: Is this weight with or without the mount? I typically use an aftermarket and lighter weight mount for acogs. Is the reticle brighter than the SLx line of prismatic sights? I will check on Monday to be 100% sure about weight. But way way brighter than SLX Prisms |
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Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990: Any ETA for the Gen III 3x? Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may |
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Originally Posted By 556_Chowder: Any thoughts on using this on a 20 inch DMR? I’ve used a 4x acog on my DMR-ish for a while.. but since I’ve found out its pretty accurate with the right ammo I’ve replaced the acog with a Vortex PST 2-10x.. the 4xwas a waste on a MOA gun IMHO. |
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Originally Posted By MARSH1: Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may Originally Posted By MARSH1: Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990: Any ETA for the Gen III 3x? Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may Nice scope, but I have to ask the inevitable question, when will there be a 1x version? |
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Originally Posted By mousegunner: Nice scope, but I have to ask the inevitable question, when will there be a 1x version? They’ve had a 1x Prism for a while...or was that a joke  https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black |
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Originally Posted By KimberZ71: They’ve had a 1x Prism for a while...or was that a joke https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black Originally Posted By KimberZ71: Originally Posted By mousegunner: Nice scope, but I have to ask the inevitable question, when will there be a 1x version? They’ve had a 1x Prism for a while...or was that a joke https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black I have their Cyclops scope. I was wondering about a GLX-level version with a much brighter reticle. |
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Originally Posted By MARSH1: Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may Will the new 3X models use the same illumination technology to get similar battery life and illumination? Will they also be lighter like this one? |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger: Looks a fair bit bigger than a TA44 and it’s much heavier. Our weight with riser and mount is 11oz. Listed weight of TA44 is without riser and mount but yes it will still be lighter and 1" shorter. The TA44 is an amazing piece of engineering. Ours does include the adjustable diopter. That is what accounts for most of the extra length but comes in handing if you don't have perfect vision. |
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Originally Posted By MARSH1: Our weight with riser and mount is 11oz. Listed weight of TA44 is without riser and mount but yes it will still be lighter and 1" shorter. The TA44 is an amazing piece of engineering. Ours does include the adjustable diopter. That is what accounts for most of the extra length but comes in handing if you don't have perfect vision. AND the adjustable brightness... |
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
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I'm just going to guestimate the weight... 1.5 oz on the riser and 2.5 oz on the mount... so 7ish oz weight naked? I think that would be pretty darn respectable! TA44 standard base: 5.1 oz TA44 low base (less material) I would imagine slightly lighter. I think I'm in for a 300blk reticle in FDE Thank you again Marsh and all for sharing data. *ps* for what its worth, I would have paid an extra $50 to have auto-shutoff and motion activation 
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| In the hand I think my TA-45 is just a bit lighter. Not enough to make me put it back on my rifle. The 2x is on it right now |
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
General education should not be mere job training, but training of the mind to reason. https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/
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Originally Posted By DRNLS: Any issue with using this on a 10.5" ar pistol? I doubt it but will ask Dimitri if you need to adjust zero for BDC. |
| Apparently Swampfox is releasing a 3x prism called Trihawk that will be better than the PA prism, they all release around May timeframe. I would hold off on any preordering until more comparisons come out, they aren't offering any benefits to a preorder unless I missed something. |
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Originally Posted By twistid1: Apparently Swampfox is releasing a 3x prism called Trihawk that will be better than the PA prism, they all release around May timeframe. I would hold off on any preordering until more comparisons come out, they aren't offering any benefits to a preorder unless I missed something. Can you elaborate on how it will be better? |
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Originally Posted By Frens: Does PA have a dealer here in EU? Yes. Where are you? |
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I played with one of these at SHOT, and I was extremely impressed, especially with how flexible the eye relief was. I've mostly switched over to LPVOs, but it's totally a viable option for people who want the simplicity of a fixed prism optic and want to maintain a huge FOV. Would recommend seeing if you could implement fiber optic illumination in the next generation of these. |
The Primary Arms GLx 2x ACSS Prism Optic (Page 1 of 22)
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