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Posted: 3/17/2020 3:11:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: MRW]
PWS
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 3:29:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: King_Mud] [#1]
Tagged. I'm quite interested in this, how does it do with both eyes open? Is it similar to the mini ACOGs?

ETA: untagged. Read the other thread, probably should have done that first.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 3:32:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: mcordell] [#2]
Is the "Gold" line made in China or this optic specifically? I know the QC/durability is supposed to be held to a higher standard either way.
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 3:35:00 PM EST
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How much does it weigh?
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 3:55:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/17/2020 3:56:14 PM EST
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11oz iirc
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 4:09:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/17/2020 4:25:25 PM EST
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@marsh1

Is this scopes delivery still on schedule?  Considering...et al
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 4:31:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ruins:
@marsh1

Is this scopes delivery still on schedule?  Considering...et al
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Ditto this^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 4:53:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: MARSH1] [#9]
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 5:56:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:

Yes. This factory is back to 80% capacity.

I wish I could say this about our 1-6X factory in Wuhan
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@MARSH1

How bad is it in Wuhan? You guys have any of your staff over there?
Link Posted: 3/17/2020 6:12:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/18/2020 6:41:45 AM EST
[#12]
Excellent.  Will pick one up on pre-order.
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 7:02:00 AM EST
[#13]
Does PA have a dealer here in EU?
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 7:48:35 AM EST
[#14]
Why would you want an optic like this instead of a 1-6x optic?
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 8:00:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: MARSH1] [#15]
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 8:04:14 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/18/2020 8:39:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MRW:
half the weight, half the size, probably more robust, super clear glass...  This is finally a low-power ACOG competitor, at a third of the price.  Why do people buy 1.5x and 2x ACOGS over a 1-6x?
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Exactly what you posted.

I want another couple of 1.5 ACOGs, but the price is higher than I want to outlay.

This is the price I don’t have an issue paying.
Link Posted: 3/18/2020 9:59:59 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/20/2020 12:38:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
GLX is our mid tier. This particular optic is made in a high quality OEM factory in China that we have been doing business with for 10+ years. It is our design built to LE grade specs. Currently the non prism GLX scopes are made in the Philippines.

This 2X has our latest illumination technology giving true daylight illumination with a etched reticle. Brighter than any prism we test other than dual illumination Acogs.

Thanks
Marshall
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Any ETA for the Gen III 3x?
Link Posted: 3/20/2020 6:57:37 PM EST
[#20]
Does the production model include the different risers?
Link Posted: 3/20/2020 7:50:01 PM EST
[#21]
MRW and Marshall, thanks for sharing!

Looks like an acog base for mounting options. Nice. I was wondering what the country of origin was being that it was gold product. Thanks again for disclosing that.

Thank you for also sharing that the reticle brightness is daylight bright. Very cool. I would assume that it's brighter than the SLx line of prisms?
Link Posted: 3/20/2020 7:55:41 PM EST
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I need two lol
Link Posted: 3/20/2020 8:02:03 PM EST
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Looks a fair bit bigger than a TA44 and it’s much heavier.
Link Posted: 3/21/2020 7:58:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MRW:
2 eyes open is similar to my 1.5x ACOG
made in China
PA webiste sec says 11 oz
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Is this weight with or without the mount? I typically use an aftermarket and lighter weight mount for acogs.

Is the reticle brighter than the SLx line of prismatic sights?

Link Posted: 3/21/2020 8:06:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: Creature] [#25]
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Originally Posted By dotcombust:


Is this [11oz] weight with or without the mount?

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@Marsh1

Good question.

I assumed that was with the mount attached..
Link Posted: 3/21/2020 9:11:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/21/2020 9:13:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/21/2020 9:14:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/22/2020 9:57:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may
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Sweet!
Link Posted: 3/22/2020 10:45:05 PM EST
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Any thoughts on using this on a 20 inch DMR?
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 1:26:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 556_Chowder:
Any thoughts on using this on a 20 inch DMR?
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I’ve used a 4x acog on my DMR-ish for a while.. but since I’ve found out its pretty accurate with the right ammo I’ve replaced the acog with a Vortex PST 2-10x.. the 4xwas a waste on a MOA gun IMHO.

Link Posted: 3/23/2020 5:39:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990:


Any ETA for the Gen III 3x?



Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may


Nice scope, but I have to ask the inevitable question, when will there be a 1x version?
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 7:43:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mousegunner:


Nice scope, but I have to ask the inevitable question, when will there be a 1x version?
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They’ve had a 1x Prism for a while...or was that a joke

https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 8:55:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: mousegunner] [#34]
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Originally Posted By KimberZ71:



They’ve had a 1x Prism for a while...or was that a joke

https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black
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Originally Posted By KimberZ71:
Originally Posted By mousegunner:


Nice scope, but I have to ask the inevitable question, when will there be a 1x version?



They’ve had a 1x Prism for a while...or was that a joke

https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black


I have their Cyclops scope.  I was wondering about a GLX-level version with a much brighter reticle.
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 9:12:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-] [#35]
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Originally Posted By MARSH1:



Pre-order goes up this coming Monday shipping early may
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Will the new 3X models use the same illumination technology to get similar battery life and illumination? Will they also be lighter like this one?
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 12:20:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/23/2020 7:50:36 PM EST
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Received the PA email today as well.

The new MD 25 looks nice. I will wait for the ACSS reticle though.
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 9:10:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/24/2020 11:08:17 AM EST
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Any issue with using this on a 10.5" ar pistol?
Link Posted: 3/24/2020 11:53:38 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/24/2020 10:23:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: dotcombust] [#41]
I'm just going to guestimate the weight... 1.5 oz on the riser and 2.5 oz on the mount... so 7ish oz weight naked? I think that would be pretty darn respectable!

TA44 standard base: 5.1 oz
TA44 low base (less material) I would imagine slightly lighter.

I think I'm in for a 300blk reticle in FDE

Thank you again Marsh and all for sharing data.

*ps* for what its worth, I would have paid an extra $50 to have auto-shutoff and motion activation
Link Posted: 3/24/2020 11:50:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/25/2020 12:34:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dotcombust:


*ps* for what its worth, I would have paid an extra $50 to have auto-shutoff and motion activation

It has AUTOLIV motion on and auto off for 20,000 battery life wha???

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Ok so I need to read better. In for a pre-order!
Link Posted: 3/25/2020 9:11:52 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/25/2020 12:05:44 PM EST
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Thank you
Link Posted: 3/26/2020 1:02:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: Glock9mm1990] [#46]
So I decided that when I get that $1200 from the government I’m getting both the new 2x ACSS and the Gen III 3x.

Also is the new 3x compatible with any ADM mounts?
Link Posted: 3/26/2020 2:05:06 PM EST
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Apparently Swampfox is releasing a 3x prism called Trihawk that will be better than the PA prism, they all release around May timeframe.  I would hold off on any preordering until more comparisons come out, they aren't offering any benefits to a preorder unless I missed something.
Link Posted: 3/26/2020 10:30:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By twistid1:
Apparently Swampfox is releasing a 3x prism called Trihawk that will be better than the PA prism, they all release around May timeframe.  I would hold off on any preordering until more comparisons come out, they aren't offering any benefits to a preorder unless I missed something.
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Can you elaborate on how it will be better?
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 6:33:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: MARSH1] [#49]
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 8:06:00 AM EST
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I played with one of these at SHOT, and I was extremely impressed, especially with how flexible the eye relief was. I've mostly switched over to LPVOs, but it's totally a viable option for people who want the simplicity of a fixed prism optic and want to maintain a huge FOV.

Would recommend seeing if you could implement fiber optic illumination in the next generation of these.
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