Forgive my ignorance but I don't have anyone or anywhere around here to get hands on with these. I have looked through other Acogs but it has been a long time and I remember that wow clarity. If I am using a flattop with a FSB what combo of optic height and mount height am I looking for?  I would like the sight picture to be clear if possible but not sky high and awkward. Not sure if this is even possible. I figure worst case if I hate it I can sell it and maybe go the T2 route or just wait until someone releases something I like better.

I have a couple of the TA44s (high) and run the same mount for all of them -- the Midwest Industries (MI-QDTAM) mount:
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/product-p/mi-qdtam.htm

I don't know the exact height above bore, but the sight picture feels right / natural. And if I had to guess, it probably falls somewhere around lower 1/3rd.

It feels just like looking through my Aimpoint Micros, etc.

Other mounts that are similar:

- American Defense: https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/14/
- LaRue Tactial: https://www.larue.com/products/larue-tactical-acog-compact-mount-qd-lt105/

I have and use a TA44. Are you trying to avoid seeing the front sight base through the scope? It's not really a problem inho. I believe most if not all of the mounts that come for the TA44 are standard in height for cheekweld and work perfectly (I have tried the standard Trijicon base that comes with the scope, and also the Larue and ADM mounts). Going higher will create more problems.

The only other thing I could think of is to mount the TA44 to a carry handle, either an A1/2 or a removable carry handle and mount it that way. The mini/micro ACOG's are fantastic if you are stuck with a carry handle and want the speed/precision of an ACOG.

Thank you for the info!

Yes I would like to keep the FSB out of view. I guess I didnt realize the mounts were the same as far as height goes. A bit confused on the little knob on the bottom of the mini acogs I see in the pictures. I noticed on primary arms website there is a high compact option and a low compact option with the ACSS reticle. I thought maybe a low acog with a high mount or a high acog with a low/standard mount served different height purpose. I think maybe I have over complicated the entire thing not knowing the mounts are the same height.

Aiming with both eyes open and focusing on the target rather than the reticle will help minimize the FSB shadow.

I’ve been using a TA44 on a carbine with FSB for 10 years now and the FSB doesn’t bother me.

both of mine are on Larue Mounts.  perfect height for me

For the Primary Arms ACSS version you can get both.  The high base in a standard ADM mount was the same height as a low base in the Bobro high mount.  I would imagine if you went with the ACSS version in a low base and a low mount you would never get the picture you were hoping for.

No, you are not complicating things. Things are complicated. Apparently trijicon changed the design of the compact low sights recently. I had a Ta33 in a bobro low mount. I sold the Ta33 with the hopes that a brand new Ta44 would use this mount. Well, the OLD Ta44 compacts did, but the new ones didn't. I called Bobro with my issue and they said yes, trijicon changed the design and we now have to make the "V" in the base wider. They cut me a good deal on a new mount and sent it out. I got the mount in and while, yes, it fit my new compact low ACOG, it was ridiculously low. Much lower than my old TA33 in its proper low mount. So I contacted Bobro again today and they are allowing me to swap it for the high version for the NEW compact ACOG. What a confusing mess. The old compact low mini acogs sat in the base with a much sharper "V" than the new ones. I wish there was some other easy way to tell which is which but I haven't found it. Good luck.

I found the picture I had before I sold my red one.  The front is a low base ACOG in a high Bobro mount.  The rear is a high base ACOG in a std ADM mount.

All this said.  I really like the Green and have since switched it to a LaRue mount.

Attached File

So that first low base ACOG is the old design and will work with the mounts Bobro currently has shown on their website. For mounts to fit the new design, you have to call them.
Here is the new design TA44 in the way too low mount:

wh auden analysis

I have a low mount acss ta44. Bought it for a beretta arx I have yet to buy. I have a low mount from adm and a high mount from Midwest industries for it. The low acog with a low mount won’t work on an Ar15, the high mount is close to absolute co witness which works well.

Here’s the low mount mounted on my ak with tws dogleg rail top cover.


Here’s the high mount on an ar15 compared to an absolute co witness height red dot and the mbus


Here’s the high mount compared to a lower 1/3 co witness red dot on another ar15.

Sounds like a headache. Hope I hit it right on the first time and glad I asked!

Do they differ in height? The high base in the std looks a tiny bit higher...might just be the angle.

Thanks for the pictures for visual comparison!
I am guessing the high Acog in a standard mount shouldn't be a major issue with the FSB, or would a high base and a high mount be better...Seems like that may be too awkwardly high.

I've been wondering this question as I want to mount a TA44 to my Tavor which has a higher than AR height requirement and a Scorpion which is lower than an AR.

So far I've emailed a few places.

Bobro came back and told me
Their high mount with the tall base would be about 1.7" optical center line which is what they recommend for an AR as it's about lower 1/3 co-witness.
Low mount with compact acog tall base is 1.5" and a low mount with low base is roughly 1.1" optical center.

Larue told me their mount is designed to provide a lower 1/3" co-witness with the tall/high base TA44 and that the Low Height TA44 will not fit their LT 105 mount as the “post” is too low to provide the proper seating and clearance on their mount.

I emailed Midwest Industries and I haven't heard back from them. I didn't know ADM made a mount so I'll email them now.

@mrozowjj ended up going with the High base and the MW mount I'll let you know when I get it in and
get it mounted...i am thinking it may be a bit high but we will see

I think I'm going to make a spreadsheet in Google Docs and share it so I can have this info all somewhere.

ADM AD-B5 says it has a centerline optic height of 1.8 but I don't know if that's with a tall or with a short base TA44. Considering my goal is to have something for my Tavor I might very well buy one but it is a bit heavier than most at 3 oz... I guess that's why it's $80 and not $140.

@ARnonymous

I made a spreadsheet and I've got emails out to all the different mount makers to fill in all the blanks.

TA44 Mount Options