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Posted: 2/6/2024 6:14:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pureblood]
Here's mine.
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Posted: 2/6/2024 6:35:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pureblood]
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 I can post one picture but not the second for some mysterious reason. |
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Posted: 2/6/2024 8:29:35 AM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2024 8:37:07 AM EDT
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I approve of this thread.
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USA
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Posted: 2/6/2024 12:18:09 PM EDT
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Tiochfaidh ar la
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SK, CAN
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Posted: 2/6/2024 1:23:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By msch42: Tiochfaidh ar la Is that garlic ? |
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USA
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Posted: 2/6/2024 2:22:10 PM EDT
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Close, Gaelic
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SK, CAN
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Posted: 2/9/2024 2:56:20 PM EDT
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Corrosive 10,000 round 181 test without cleaning.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18LDJaUb5LaiAx2gdqGpgPp9Sx0objbfh/view |
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SK, CAN
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Posted: 2/9/2024 2:59:49 PM EDT
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The Magpul Zhukov stocks are nice.
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FRA
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Posted: 2/9/2024 5:45:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: natfrog]
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I see you have a Russian AK sling (or is it a Chinese one?) on your AR - to go with the Zhukov stock?
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SK, CAN
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Posted: 2/9/2024 9:27:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pureblood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By natfrog: I see you have a Russian AK sling (or is it a Chinese one?) on your AR - to go with the Zhukov stock? I think it's a Chinese sling, it just fits right, that's why I have it on there. I just ordered some more... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005457942342.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.6e2268ee1Krm9f&algo_pvid=abd21c09-e420-4982-b029-2c16d081257c&aem_p4p_detail=2024020917332712269843832274880003501546&algo_exp_id=abd21c09-e420-4982-b029-2c16d081257c-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21CAD%2123.96%2110.78%21%21%21125.39%2156.43%21%402103011017075288078723748e2fd2%2112000033160728617%21sea%21CA%21111238894%21&curPageLogUid=FVtd6MUYOvQH&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A&search_p4p_id=2024020917332712269843832274880003501546_1 |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 9:31:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By msch42: Tiochfaidh ar la Their day never came, they got invaded by Muslims and Ukrainian's. |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 6:54:59 AM EDT
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Well this thread proves one thing..
Not many folks have a real AR18/AR180. This is kind of a BRN180ish thread. Don't call the BRN180 a AR180.... just dont.. |
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SK, CAN
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Posted: 2/10/2024 12:01:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By campower: Well this thread proves one thing.. Not many folks have a real AR18/AR180. This is kind of a BRN180ish thread. Don't call the BRN180 a AR180.... just dont.. There are not many people who have real AR15's either. Why is a BRN180 not an AR180 ? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2024 7:42:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR18]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: There are not many people who have real AR15's either. Why is a BRN180 not an AR180 ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: Originally Posted By campower: Well this thread proves one thing.. Not many folks have a real AR18/AR180. This is kind of a BRN180ish thread. Don't call the BRN180 a AR180.... just dont.. There are not many people who have real AR15's either. Why is a BRN180 not an AR180 ?  Well, here is mines. I am using the Nodak Spud lower to keep my original Sterling AR180 lower in stasis. |
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Posted: 2/10/2024 8:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote History[b]Originally Posted By AR18:[/b Well, here is mines. I am using the Nodak Spud lower to keep my original Sterling AR180 lower in stasis. Very nice indeed. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2024 8:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: Very nice indeed. Thanks, I was hoping someone would make a replacement lower when the 180B had issues with the polymer lower. Too bad I missed out on a B model. Is that the Crusader model? |
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Posted: 2/11/2024 12:22:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By campower: Well this thread proves one thing.. Not many folks have a real AR18/AR180. This is kind of a BRN180ish thread. Don't call the BRN180 a AR180.... just dont.. They only made about 24,000 of them IIRC. Not many are AR-18s. |
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Posted: 2/11/2024 6:31:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: campower]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: They only made about 24,000 of them IIRC. Not many are AR-18s. Now does that include the US, HOWA and Sterling plus all the gen 2 180Bs that were made in the early 2000s? I bet half that many were in the hands of the IRA! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/11/2024 5:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By campower: Now does that include the US, HOWA and Sterling plus all the gen 2 180Bs that were made in the early 2000s? I bet half that many were in the hands of the IRA! Not sure where I read that but the Costa Mesa and Howa serial numbers I’ve seen were all low numbers and Sterling highest I’ve see was mid 20,000 range. I’m not counting the 180Bs. So roughly 24,000 for stamped, spot welded lower receiver with folding stock with Armalite and import markings. |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 12:14:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR18: Thanks, I was hoping someone would make a replacement lower when the 180B had issues with the polymer lower. Too bad I missed out on a B model. Is that the Crusader model? It's a Kodiak WK 181 gen 2 in 7.62 X39, and also a Gen 1 Kodiak 180 in .223 There are many modern 180 variants in Canada |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 12:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Not sure where I read that but the Costa Mesa and Howa serial numbers I’ve seen were all low numbers and Sterling highest I’ve see was mid 20,000 range. I’m not counting the 180Bs. So roughly 24,000 for stamped, spot welded lower receiver with folding stock with Armalite and import markings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Originally Posted By campower: Now does that include the US, HOWA and Sterling plus all the gen 2 180Bs that were made in the early 2000s? I bet half that many were in the hands of the IRA! Not sure where I read that but the Costa Mesa and Howa serial numbers I’ve seen were all low numbers and Sterling highest I’ve see was mid 20,000 range. I’m not counting the 180Bs. So roughly 24,000 for stamped, spot welded lower receiver with folding stock with Armalite and import markings. That number is kinda of high. If I remember from an article by Joe Poyer on the numbers of AR180s made. I don't remember if he included the numbers of AR18s. This is a rough estimate of the semi autos verison made. I would have to see if I can find that article somewhere in my old mag collection. Howa the smallest amount made was like less than 2,000. Costa Mesa was about 3,000. Sterling was almost 11,000. |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 12:31:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: Their day never came, they got invaded by Muslims and Ukrainian's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: Originally Posted By msch42: Tiochfaidh ar la Their day never came, they got invaded by Muslims and Ukrainian's. Truth |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 12:55:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: Their day never came, they got invaded by Muslims and Ukrainian's. Not through violent revolution but we're as close as we've ever been to seeing reunification now that the Catholics outnumber the protestants in the north, and since the DUP finally caved they're forming an executive with Sinn Fein in charge. Can't speak to the Muslims or Ukrainians, I was there back in October and didn't notice very many but YMMV |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:29:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By msch42: Not through violent revolution but we're as close as we've ever been to seeing reunification now that the Catholics outnumber the protestants in the north, and since the DUP finally caved they're forming an executive with Sinn Fein in charge. Can't speak to the Muslims or Ukrainians, I was there back in October and didn't notice very many but YMMV Go to Dublin if you want to see muslims and Ukranians. The Irish are pissed off about what has happened to their country. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:53:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pureblood]
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Today I shot my new WK 181 Z for the first time. I got it near the mark on paper at 50 yards, then moved out to a gong at 110 yards. This new rifle has proved that my other one is no fluke. I have some very nice and accurate bolt action rifles, but none of them can outshoot these new Canadian AR 180's.
The formula... WK 181 7.62X39, Good reloads, TriggerTech duty trigger, Spina 6x scope. 4 shot 1/2 MOA group at 110 yards   What's the picture posting secret ? |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 5:30:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By msch42: Not through violent revolution but we're as close as we've ever been to seeing reunification now that the Catholics outnumber the protestants in the north, and since the DUP finally caved they're forming an executive with Sinn Fein in charge. Can't speak to the Muslims or Ukrainians, I was there back in October and didn't notice very many but YMMV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtVrriu6coc |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 10:21:20 PM EDT
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How's 1/2 MOA for accuracy. These new AR 180's are much better than AR 15's
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Posted: 2/25/2024 12:47:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pureblood: How's 1/2 MOA for accuracy. These new AR 180's are much better than AR 15's https://i.imgur.com/cBJObCB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Qshl7l3.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:21:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ghostface]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By campower: Well this thread proves one thing.. Not many folks have a real AR18/AR180. This is kind of a BRN180ish thread. Don't call the BRN180 a AR180.... just dont.. If people can call any .308 AR an AR-10 then I can call my BRN-180 an AR-180! 
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Posted: 2/28/2024 10:03:29 PM EDT
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Exactly
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Posted: 3/13/2024 9:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR18: https://i.ibb.co/JBNV1Wb/20240210-183809.jpg Well, here is mines. I am using the Nodak Spud lower to keep my original Sterling AR180 lower in stasis. Details. I'm thinking of doing the same thing. IM sent. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:39:36 AM EDT
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From what I've read, there was a time when the AR-18 was popular with at least some of the Texas Rangers as the AR-18 offered the rifle cartridge in a compact, easy to store in the vehicle trunk, package. I don't know if those AR-18s were personally owned, or if they were Texas Department of Public Safety firearms.
And FWIW, M2 carbines with the folding stock were also said to be popular with some Rangers. MHO, YMMV, etc. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 10:53:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2024 11:29:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2024 8:02:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tooldforthis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR18: That number is kinda of high. If I remember from an article by Joe Poyer on the numbers of AR180s made. I don't remember if he included the numbers of AR18s. This is a rough estimate of the semi autos verison made. I would have to see if I can find that article somewhere in my old mag collection. Howa the smallest amount made was like less than 2,000. Costa Mesa was about 3,000. Sterling was almost 11,000. Incorrect. I have one of the first 50 Costa Mesa and one of the last 100 Costa Mesa Serial number on my highest number Costa is 397X The 4000ish number built range is correct within a few dozen rifles I have one of the first 10 Howa with serial on upper and one of the last 30 Howa with serial on upper Serial number on my highest number Howa (with serial on upper) is 97X The 1000 number built range for this is correct (within a few dozen rifles) I have one of the first 10 Howa with serial on lower and one of the last 25 Howas with serial on lower Serial # on my highest number Howa (with serial on lower) is 1288x Add the X serial Howa's and the 3927 production number is correct (within a few dozen rifles) I have one of the first 20 Sterlings and one of the last 30 Sterlings Serial # on my highest number Sterling is 2733X There are X serial Sterlings so with that, the estimate of 12,360ish Sterlings is correct (within a few dozen rifles) Total production of AR-180's (no B no AR-18 included) is right at 20,000 ish within a 100 rifles or so There were many many many AR-18 which were in production and then instead of being sold as 18's were made into the last Costa Mesa's and the first Howa's No, the Howa's were not made first according to some legend. If you look at them first hand, you can clearly see the lineage in the development of the firearms. I have yet to establish a good range of how many AR-18's were made as that number is hard to surmise with so few transferable's to sample from. Some of these guns have been in our inventory since new |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 10:36:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tooldforthis: Incorrect. I have one of the first 50 Costa Mesa and one of the last 100 Costa Mesa Serial number on my highest number Costa is 397X The 4000ish number built range is correct within a few dozen rifles I have one of the first 10 Howa with serial on upper and one of the last 30 Howa with serial on upper Serial number on my highest number Howa (with serial on upper) is 97X The 1000 number built range for this is correct (within a few dozen rifles) I have one of the first 10 Howa with serial on lower and one of the last 25 Howas with serial on lower Serial # on my highest number Howa (with serial on lower) is 1288x Add the X serial Howa's and the 3927 production number is correct (within a few dozen rifles) I have one of the first 20 Sterlings and one of the last 30 Sterlings Serial # on my highest number Sterling is 2733X There are X serial Sterlings so with that, the estimate of 12,360ish Sterlings is correct (within a few dozen rifles) Total production of AR-180's (no B no AR-18 included) is right at 20,000 ish within a 100 rifles or so There were many many many AR-18 which were in production and then instead of being sold as 18's were made into the last Costa Mesa's and the first Howa's No, the Howa's were not made first according to some legend. If you look at them first hand, you can clearly see the lineage in the development of the firearms. I have yet to establish a good range of how many AR-18's were made as that number is hard to surmise with so few transferable's to sample from. Some of these guns have been in our inventory since new Absolutely incredible gold mine of information if this fact. You obviously know these rifles better than most. If a guy wanted to pick one up to shoot, what would you reccomend? |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 10:56:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tooldforthis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By campower: Absolutely incredible gold mine of information if this fact. You obviously know these rifles better than most. If a guy wanted to pick one up to shoot, what would you reccomend? Sterling is cheapest and besides finish, no real difference. The only bad rifle I have had in the 40 odd AR-180's I have owned or own currently was a Sterling. The sights were off. But I wouldn't hold that against the Sterlings as it could have been any rifle, just a weird one off that was messed up. Second would be the Costa Mesa as the short throw safety is easier to use (the last CM's use the 180 degree safety same as Howa and AR18 though, but there are very few of those, they were made up from the AR18's while moving production to Howa) The two parts to check out are the hammers and the bolt hold opens. Both can break so check to make sure they are there and good. I do have both parts if you need either someday though. |
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Posted: 3/17/2024 11:44:15 PM EDT
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I have to say my AR-180 mags are more authentic than the 1st 3 posts in this thread, even if my mags also fit Mini-14s.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:01:50 PM EDT
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In order to save this thread, I dug deep into the back of my safe to take some pics and post here in this thread. I've got 3 original AR-18 20rd mags for it and the rifle itself is largely unused. It has had less than a hundred rounds through it and looks new.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:24:35 PM EDT
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