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Posted: 3/16/2014 1:47:03 AM EDT
[#1]
To make people like wayfaerer320 happy, I have appropriately renamed the thread.
I have also requested this thread be locked. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 1:58:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Dude - really? You're going to pull the "I'll do it my way - don't like it, GTFO."? 
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By TurbineGuy:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By TurbineGuy:
Cloners are just as guilty of ruining this thread as anyone else is. Did you find God, or something? You have been incredibly civil for quite some time, I have noticed 
To AZ; as I tried to tell you/warn you yesterday, I don't think anybody is shitting on your rifle. It's a sweet SBR, for sure! I tried to steer you toward the SBR subforum to show that baby off!  If you just want to look the part without doing the work, then find a damn airsoft forum. I'll spec my rifles the way I want. Don't like it, the you can hit the Report button, hit the Ignore button, or just MYOB. Dude - really? You're going to pull the "I'll do it my way - don't like it, GTFO."?
Why should this thread be any different than the BLK II thread? |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:01:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Good thing it took 6 years and 400+ pages to figure out this wasn't a clone thread.
Sure had myself and a lot of others fooled. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:01:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:04:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: StevieJ309]
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:05:41 AM EDT
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SBR will be legal soon in WA. I was looking forward to post pictures of my SOPMOD CQBR. Got another WMX200 coming for it...
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:14:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311:
To make people like wayfaerer320 happy, I have appropriately renamed the thread. I have also requested this thread be locked. I don't know why we just couldn't have a mod clamp down on all the shenanigans and clean up all the aberrant posts...it's been done before. Oddly enough, the same 2 or 3 posters are stirring up the same shit in the M4A1 SOPMOD Block II Clone Picture Thread. If any one has any gear/kit/configuration questions, feel free to IM me. Queue the "Well, bye!" gif. /thread for me...adios. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:17:33 AM EDT
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I apologize if I upset anyone.
Didn't mean any disrespect at all - I just assumed (for the last 3 years) that this was a clone thread and that's why I became so defensive. Up until today, I assumed it was so. Apologies.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:26:50 AM EDT
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IBTL
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:26:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Here's one of my SBRs, as I couldn't have posted it in the CQBR thread I guess:
Already have a tan M300B waiting for it - just waiting on FDE Gear Sector offset scout mounts to get back in stock. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:44:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:35:18 AM EDT
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Really?
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Posted: 3/16/2014 8:53:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
I apologize if I upset anyone. Didn't mean any disrespect at all - I just assumed (for the last 3 years) that this was a clone thread and that's why I became so defensive. Up until today, I assumed it was so. Apologies. Hey there's still the block II thread so you just run right over there and get that one locked too. Thread was here 3 years before you and you take it upon yourself to be the clone police. Thanks dude |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 9:07:56 AM EDT
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WAY TO GO guys.
Ive seen this thread deteriorate over the last year. instead of discussions on mk18, it turned to pissing matches. un-subscribed. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 9:45:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hyperformer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dylang32:
Hey there's still the block II thread so you just run right over there and get that one locked too. Thread was here 3 years before you and you take it upon yourself to be the clone police. Thanks dude Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dylang32:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
I apologize if I upset anyone. Didn't mean any disrespect at all - I just assumed (for the last 3 years) that this was a clone thread and that's why I became so defensive. Up until today, I assumed it was so. Apologies. Hey there's still the block II thread so you just run right over there and get that one locked too. Thread was here 3 years before you and you take it upon yourself to be the clone police. Thanks dude Yeah, thanks dude.  I'll admit that some of the posts here of simply SBR's were a little annoying, but I guess some peoples panties get in a bunch over those minor annoyances. I think it goes with the territory in a clone thread. I think it does help keep the discussion going as to what is or isn't a "clone". Oh well.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 10:40:46 AM EDT
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Wow, 473 pages ruined by a couple clone nazis. It even makes me reconsider finishing my mk18 build and just going a completely different route at this point. I have no desire to get involved in this pissing match of a thread.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:16:24 AM EDT
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There is too much information here to lock this one. If you really want me to lock it I will.
Or the offending parties can play nice, or get out of the thread. O/P Let me know what you want to do. I'll talk with staff. Maybe the right answer is to lock some out of the tech forums for a while. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:20:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hyperformer: Yeah, thanks dude. I'll admit that some of the posts here of simply SBR's were a little annoying, but I guess some peoples panties get in a bunch over those minor annoyances. I think it goes with the territory in a clone thread. I think it does help keep the discussion going as to what is or isn't a "clone". Oh well.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hyperformer: Originally Posted By dylang32: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: I apologize if I upset anyone. Didn't mean any disrespect at all - I just assumed (for the last 3 years) that this was a clone thread and that's why I became so defensive. Up until today, I assumed it was so. Apologies. Hey there's still the block II thread so you just run right over there and get that one locked too. Thread was here 3 years before you and you take it upon yourself to be the clone police. Thanks dude Yeah, thanks dude. I'll admit that some of the posts here of simply SBR's were a little annoying, but I guess some peoples panties get in a bunch over those minor annoyances. I think it goes with the territory in a clone thread. I think it does help keep the discussion going as to what is or isn't a "clone". Oh well.If anyone ruined this thread it certainly wasn't me. What ruined it was the people deviating from clones (which was in the thread title name btw) and instead just posting generic SBRs that have little in common with issued guns. But again, I was under the impression that this was originally a clone thread - had I known it wasn't, I wouldn't have said anything at all. If you're going to blame me, then blame the others who told people their generic SBRs were Mk18 clones because they "said so."
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:20:25 AM EDT
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I'm all for keeping this thread about true clones, but this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Where's our mod?
Can't they just go through and clean out the non-hackers?
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:25:09 AM EDT
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What would it take to get the high-ups to create a Clone subforum?
Yeah, I know there's relatively few iterations of military clone rifles, but it may be a safe haven where we can discuss clones without the ignorant dropping by and inadvertently causing dog piles. There's an entire subforum dedicated to A2s, and they're pretty damn easy to figure out what makes one up. Just a thought. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:45:34 AM EDT
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Your mod posted two posts above yours so chill out.
We have talked about a clone forum, but honestly that is not the answer. The problem is that people dump in all threads not just this one. It is becoming more and more prevalent in the tech forums. It would take a lot of time to clean this up, and its just not worth it. This topic ends here. If the O/P wants it to run it will run. If it does continue, stay on topic and off of each other. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:46:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By twitch1706:
What would it take to get the high-ups to create a Clone subforum? Yeah, I know there's relatively few iterations of military clone rifles, but it may be a safe haven where we can discuss clones without the ignorant dropping by and inadvertently causing dog piles. There's an entire subforum dedicated to A2s, and they're pretty damn easy to figure out what makes one up. Just a thought. There's already a link a few posts up and it looks like it already has a great start! |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 11:50:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gunnut003]
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Pic space for some triplets....come on June 12, it cant get here soon...I think I am gonna do the Colt 6933 route for the lowers...except for the MK18...I could go NODAK or SP1?
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Posted: 3/16/2014 12:01:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Postal0311]
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The problem is that there is more arguing then information.
When someone post something inappropriate, instead of a single post explaining why it is inappropriate we get a page or two of bickering. We have had people who are issued CQBRs run off this thread. What is worse for the thread some incorrect pictures or pages of arguing? This started with the MK12 thread. When someone posted a rifle that would be correct but with a URX rail instead of a M4 FF rail, people were fine with it, but when someone posted a rifle with a YHM rail, we would get several people running them off the thread. Then the purists got nutty. Not every rifle is going to be an exact clone. So, is it really worth spending pages arguing about it? Lancelot, this thread has gone nuts. Please lock it. 
Since I was using a Surefire can before SOCOM, does that mean the SEALs are cloning my gun? 
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Posted: 3/16/2014 12:04:42 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 12:18:52 PM EDT
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Ive been following the thread for years, and in the past 6 months or so it really went downhill.
postal, how do you like the mk18 with acog? I just ordered one for mine and look forward to it. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 12:41:39 PM EDT
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Darn that postal wants it locked
. I love this thread and weapon system. This thread is the FIRST place I come when I have some "me" time to brouse the net, relax, and learn about something that really interests me.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 12:42:22 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 12:48:50 PM EDT
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That sucks, There is a shit ton of valuable info in this thread even with all of the nonsense.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 1:06:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
If anyone ruined this thread it certainly wasn't me. What ruined it was the people deviating from clones (which was in the thread title name btw) and instead just posting generic SBRs that have little in common with issued guns. But again, I was under the impression that this was originally a clone thread - had I known it wasn't, I wouldn't have said anything at all. If you're going to blame me, then blame the others who told people their generic SBRs were Mk18 clones because they "said so." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By Hyperformer:
Originally Posted By dylang32:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
I apologize if I upset anyone. Didn't mean any disrespect at all - I just assumed (for the last 3 years) that this was a clone thread and that's why I became so defensive. Up until today, I assumed it was so. Apologies. Hey there's still the block II thread so you just run right over there and get that one locked too. Thread was here 3 years before you and you take it upon yourself to be the clone police. Thanks dude Yeah, thanks dude. I'll admit that some of the posts here of simply SBR's were a little annoying, but I guess some peoples panties get in a bunch over those minor annoyances. I think it goes with the territory in a clone thread. I think it does help keep the discussion going as to what is or isn't a "clone". Oh well.If anyone ruined this thread it certainly wasn't me. What ruined it was the people deviating from clones (which was in the thread title name btw) and instead just posting generic SBRs that have little in common with issued guns. But again, I was under the impression that this was originally a clone thread - had I known it wasn't, I wouldn't have said anything at all. If you're going to blame me, then blame the others who told people their generic SBRs were Mk18 clones because they "said so." Yet you still find it necessary to add your two cents. When you are in a hole, stop digging. Go junk up the other mk18 thread. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 1:27:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
I don't know why we just couldn't have a mod clamp down on all the shenanigans and clean up all the aberrant posts...it's been done before. Oddly enough, the same 2 or 3 posters are stirring up the same shit in the M4A1 SOPMOD Block II Clone Picture Thread. If any one has any gear/kit/configuration questions, feel free to IM me. Queue the "Well, bye!" gif. /thread for me...adios. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
To make people like wayfaerer320 happy, I have appropriately renamed the thread. I have also requested this thread be locked. I don't know why we just couldn't have a mod clamp down on all the shenanigans and clean up all the aberrant posts...it's been done before. Oddly enough, the same 2 or 3 posters are stirring up the same shit in the M4A1 SOPMOD Block II Clone Picture Thread. If any one has any gear/kit/configuration questions, feel free to IM me. Queue the "Well, bye!" gif. /thread for me...adios. I agree, it makes more sense to fix it rather than lock it.................
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Posted: 3/16/2014 1:30:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Well this escalated quickly...
Sheesh... stay off the computer for one weekend... I think what we need to do first is come to a consensus, however rough and "working" of what is or is not a "clone." I think the majority of the people in all these threads are generally in agreement, but it gets a little hard to write a specific "definition" of a clone, given the high amount incidence of individual variation and changes in equipment - it's kind of like the definition of pornography... you know what it is when you see it, but it's a little bit hard to define with excluding legitimate art, but without having it be taken advantage of. ~Augee |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 1:41:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Patriot Brown on the receivers? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By west996:
Here is my attempt. Mostly clone acceptable minus the vfg and stock. I wanted to pick up the B5 sopmod but all they had at the gun show was the bravo model. I know it is blasphemy but I will probably putting a Geissele rail on next week. http://i.imgur.com/fVTqbON.jpg Patriot Brown on the receivers? It's actually Magpul FDE done at a local shop. It does seem a little darker than expected but I like it. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:16:25 PM EDT
[#34]
I liked this thread
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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:24:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot: Your mod posted two posts above yours so chill out. We have talked about a clone forum, but honestly that is not the answer. The problem is that people dump in all threads not just this one. It is becoming more and more prevalent in the tech forums. It would take a lot of time to clean this up, and its just not worth it. This topic ends here. If the O/P wants it to run it will run. If it does continue, stay on topic and off of each other. I meant no offense Lancelot; my apologies. You posted while I had my reply open. I hate to see this thread go by the wayside, but it is what it is. I just hope the new thread doesn't turn into the same thing.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 4:56:11 PM EDT
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The irony that a man with a color filled Spikes lower is who stirred up enough shit to nuke this thread due to lack of clone correctness...
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:07:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By karmapolice: how's this for a clone: Colt upper and BCG, DD 10.3 bbl, what rail the MK18/CQB-R should have a Geissele 9.5" rai;. This is on a factory Knights lower waiting on the factory Colt SBR lower to get out of NFA jail.   http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3703/13153753134_c68d846327_k.jpg old upper before a 12.5 bbl went on it witha diffrent rail (Factory DD Mk18 upper) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/7946354300_963c4bdab5_b.jpg |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:14:39 PM EDT
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I'd recommend that the Title be turned back to the original and then locked. There's already a SBR thread. this is a great reference, regardless of all the bickering.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
The irony that a man with a color filled Spikes lower is who stirred up enough shit to nuke this thread due to lack of clone correctness...
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
The irony that a man with a color filled Spikes lower is who stirred up enough shit to nuke this thread due to lack of clone correctness... Agreed. I didn't mind people posting pics of their progress on the road to a complete clone. After all it would be dull if no one could post unless they were 100% correct. Plus we're all excited about slowly but surely accumulating all of the hard to find parts. But playing police officer of a thread that isn't theirs, and arguing over what's "more correct" is retarded. Awesome thread is now dildos.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
The irony that a man with a color filled Spikes lower is who stirred up enough shit to nuke this thread due to lack of clone correctness... Lol |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By G_MAN:
I'd recommend that the Title be turned back to the original and then locked. There's already a SBR thread. this is a great reference, regardless of all the bickering. +1 |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 5:51:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Yeah do something because i'm about to unsubscribe to this if its going to stay like this,
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:04:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: boneislandphoto]
[#44]
May I respectfully second the idea of returning this thread to a MK18 / CQBR thread?
This thread has been an amazing resource in my building my Mod 0. This thread almost transcends "cool gun discussion" and has become essentially an historic reference for people like me interested in building an as-accurate-as-possible MK18 / CQBR clone. I have completed my build and I could have NEVER done it without this thread. I'm now going to give my build to my son and I have a lot of sweat equity into it because I used this thread to make it "correct". I could have built him a random SBR but I chose to do something that would be more meaningful and this thread was key. I come here ever day to check out the new photos and discussion and I'm not "offended" when someone posts a pic of a non-clone weapon here... in fact it makes me even prouder of my "correct" clone. If there are a couple of internet bullies on here that are so small-minded and easily offended that they're jumping on people for posting something that isn't to their liking then how about we just kick them out rather than destroy an important reference on weapon as important to our generation as the MK18 / CQBR. Please, consider restoring this back to a clone thread on MK18 / CQBRish weapons and let's just remove problem posters as they arrive.  " />
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:25:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cjwwd2]
[#45]
Someone start a new Mk18/CQBR thread please and leave this one to be SBRs or whatever-else-you-please thread
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:25:23 PM EDT
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I vote to keep it open as well. I love all the little nuances that make the Mk18/CQBR what it is. The closest I have is just a DD upper with a 231 and a Scout on it, but I love seeing the info and inspiration for our builds. |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:28:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StevieJ309]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Someone start a new Mk18/CQBR thread please and leave this one to be SBRs or whatever-else-you-please thread There's been a new one since last night. Official MK18 & CQBR Photo and Discussion Thread |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 6:29:34 PM EDT
[#48]
I second the starting of a new thread by someone with a relevant list of the most correct parts.
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:23:11 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21: The irony that a man with a color filled Spikes lower is who stirred up enough shit to nuke this thread due to lack of clone correctness... For the record, in my recent posts I never said they had to be "exact" (my God dude) and if you actually read my posts I did in fact go into great detail about my own gun and how I had a color filled lower (obviously mine isn't perfect either), but aside from a color fill, it looks like a CQBR Block II. All I did was post some comments about someone's rifle (and I wasn't the only one either) and somehow I am responsible for ruining things? And we're talking about a lower with a color filled logo and a gun that looks nothing at all like an issued rifle. 3 pics of mine below followed by pics of the rifle I commented about not being "close enough" - keyword "close" - not "exact"    Gun I commented about:  |
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Posted: 3/16/2014 7:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boneislandphoto: May I respectfully second the idea of returning this thread to a MK18 / CQBR thread? This thread has been an amazing resource in my building my Mod 0. This thread almost transcends "cool gun discussion" and has become essentially an historic reference for people like me interested in building an as-accurate-as-possible MK18 / CQBR clone. I have completed my build and I could have NEVER done it without this thread. I'm now going to give my build to my son and I have a lot of sweat equity into it because I used this thread to make it "correct". I could have built him a random SBR but I chose to do something that would be more meaningful and this thread was key. I come here ever day to check out the new photos and discussion and I'm not "offended" when someone posts a pic of a non-clone weapon here... in fact it makes me even prouder of my "correct" clone. If there are a couple of internet bullies on here that are so small-minded and easily offended that they're jumping on people for posting something that isn't to their liking then how about we just kick them out rather than destroy an important reference on weapon as important to our generation as the MK18 / CQBR. Please, consider restoring this back to a clone thread on MK18 / CQBRish weapons and let's just remove problem posters as they arrive. http://<a href=http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr227/boneislandphoto/_D4C6339.jpg</a>" /> Thank you. This thread is too big to be swept under the rug.
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