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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:35:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I will wait on the shake awake. I don't care if it is $200, it is worth it to me.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 4:01:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MARSH1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holdemdown: PA, will this be actual 50k/hrs or like the micro I had 2 years ago that wouldn't go two months contant on? It will depend on the setting. At absolute highest it will chew up the battery much quicker. At a medium setting yes it will last 50K. Also sounds like you had first Gen of pushbutton model with auto on auto off. That circuit takes power. It is recommended to turn it off for long term storage when not in use. It could also have been defective. If you still have it I would be glad to take a look. That all said this is why we did not put auto on auto off with this model. This is a completely new design and the new emitter is super bright and super efficient. You don't need it!!!!! |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 4:03:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MARSH1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: I will wait on the shake awake. I don't care if it is $200, it is worth it to me. See my post right above this. You don't need it with the new illumination technology. We will be adding it to the ACSS version because the larger illuminated area takes much more power. |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 7:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: I will wait on the shake awake. I don't care if it is $200, it is worth it to me. It's 50k hr battery life, why would you even want it? Just change the battery once a year. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 7:56:35 PM EDT
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In theory, you could leave it on 24/7 on the 50k setting and it should last 5.7 years.
I chart/ list on my safe door that has a date that I need to change the battery on each optic. I change them every two years automatically unless it’s a fun gun. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 8:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: The issue I've had with PA/holosun optics with passive night vision isn't the brightness... It's the lens coatings. They work great for visible light, but when comparing them to aimpoint, eotech etc the coating really limits the light coming through the optic that can be seen with an NVG. Instead of seeing the dot floating on the target with a bit of shadow surrounding it from the optic body, you get a dark shadow over the target with the dot floating inside. Not impossible to use, but not ideal either. It definitely makes it hard to see details of the target. This is my issue. Make a $300-400 t2 competititor. I want to buy this so bad. But past experience with pa and other red dots tell me itll be lacking thru nods. Thats my only issue, I love them during the day. Just need all guns to be dual role. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 8:59:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: This is a ground up in house design not manufactured in a Holosun factory. Can you get thru nvg photos? Im a buyer if it performs significantly better than the pa micro/romeo 5s I had |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 7:21:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Can you get thru nvg photos? Im a buyer if it performs significantly better than the pa micro/romeo 5s I had I will bring one home tonight and try and get a photo with my PVS 14 |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 8:40:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: I will bring one home tonight and try and get a photo with my PVS 14 My hero. Id reccomend setting the focus on a target at least 25 yards away as thatll help take the best picture possible. |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 3:05:02 PM EDT
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Flip Lens Caps or ARD available?
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Posted: 5/12/2020 10:19:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: My hero. Id reccomend setting the focus on a target at least 25 yards away as thatll help take the best picture possible. Forgot.  but have one sitting out on my desk so I don't forget.
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Posted: 5/12/2020 11:19:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: Forgot. but have one sitting out on my desk so I don't forget.No worries. I look forward to it and Im glad youre interested in trying. |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 11:35:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW]
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Can the mount be purchased separately? I need that mount for my other dots. T1 footprint, right? The standard AR riser would make a mini RDS sit at absolute cowitness height?
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Posted: 5/12/2020 1:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: Can the mount be purchased separately? I need that mount for my other dots. T1 footprint, right? The standard AR riser would make a mini RDS sit at absolute cowitness height? We didn't have any plans for that. I would have to check with engineering on the height but this would make for a nice separate mount. I late this year project at best. Thanks for the suggestion!! |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 1:05:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strikefirst: Flip Lens Caps or ARD available? Later this year on both. I will see if any butler creeks match up |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 12:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: We didn't have any plans for that. I would have to check with engineering on the height but this would make for a nice separate mount. I late this year project at best. Thanks for the suggestion!! Easy to do. We will have absolute and lower 1/3. will get ETA from the factory. That will take several days |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 12:30:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: My hero. Id reccomend setting the focus on a target at least 25 yards away as thatll help take the best picture possible. Going to take some work to get the pics. Way too much light in my Houston neighborhood. There is a bayou nearby so I will keep trying. This is in my garage at 20 feet. This is actually with the lowest visible setting because I was still getting in too much light through my garage windows but no bloom .  |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 12:34:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: Going to take some work to get the pics. Way too much light in my Houston neighborhood. There is a bayou nearby so I will keep trying. This is in my garage at 20 feet. This is actually with the lowest visible setting because I was still getting in too much light through my garage windows but no bloom . https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/NV_zpsvzqzz3mv.jpg Promissing. Hope for other pictures in future. My experience for best results is sandbag up rifle aiming at something at least 25-50y away. Focus on target and then put behind optic about where itd be when using on head. Gives best image of how the housing looks. Good stuff like t2 is a very faint ring. Romeo 5 and pa micro dot and a thick dark ring and cloudy dark image thru the optic. Useable with illuminator, but defeats the purpose of passive aiming for me. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 3:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Promissing. Hope for other pictures in future. My experience for best results is sandbag up rifle aiming at something at least 25-50y away. Focus on target and then put behind optic about where itd be when using on head. Gives best image of how the housing looks. Good stuff like t2 is a very faint ring. Romeo 5 and pa micro dot and a thick dark ring and cloudy dark image thru the optic. Useable with illuminator, but defeats the purpose of passive aiming for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Originally Posted By MARSH1: Going to take some work to get the pics. Way too much light in my Houston neighborhood. There is a bayou nearby so I will keep trying. This is in my garage at 20 feet. This is actually with the lowest visible setting because I was still getting in too much light through my garage windows but no bloom . https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/NV_zpsvzqzz3mv.jpg Promissing. Hope for other pictures in future. My experience for best results is sandbag up rifle aiming at something at least 25-50y away. Focus on target and then put behind optic about where itd be when using on head. Gives best image of how the housing looks. Good stuff like t2 is a very faint ring. Romeo 5 and pa micro dot and a thick dark ring and cloudy dark image thru the optic. Useable with illuminator, but defeats the purpose of passive aiming for me. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 4:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: He seems to be trying to photograph how the dot performs on the night vision brightness setting, not how the lenses/coatings allow light transfer for passive aiming. To demonstrate that, you'd need to take the photo from further back instead of right behind the optic so we can see, as you're talking about, how the optic itself looks when aiming passively (does it appear as a faint ring or a dark/cloudy image). I got the same impression. Im sure the dot is fine on nvg settings. I have 2 veerrry old pa 30mm dots that are crisp and clean. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 4:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: He seems to be trying to photograph how the dot performs on the night vision brightness setting, not how the lenses/coatings allow light transfer for passive aiming. To demonstrate that, you'd need to take the photo from further back instead of right behind the optic so we can see, as you're talking about, how the optic itself looks when aiming passively (does it appear as a faint ring or a dark/cloudy image). Got it. Let me keep at it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 6:07:51 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: Got it. Let me keep at it. Still more response than we get from any other optics manufacturer. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 11:41:07 PM EDT
[#23]
So giving the optic a look over, it appears well made. I think this is the first entry level red dot where I didn't feel that the mount is a weak point.
I have a holosun on my carbine and I did not feel confident in the mount. The SLX takes that fear away as the factory mount is well machined and far more robust than competitors mounts.  
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:12:49 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Knife_Sniper: So giving the optic a look over, it appears well made. I think this is the first entry level red dot where I didn't feel that the mount is a weak point. I have a holosun on my carbine and I did not feel confident in the mount. The SLX takes that fear away as the factory mount is well machined and far more robust than competitors mounts. http://www.thenewrifleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/primary-arms-slx-mount-1.jpg http://www.thenewrifleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/primary-arms-slx25-e1589427548606.jpg Wow that looks really good. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:25:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Can you get thru nvg photos? Im a buyer if it performs significantly better than the pa micro/romeo 5s I had With as busy as we are I am not going to get it out of the city for some real world photos. PM me. I will send you a pre production one to test out. There are no changes in coating from what will ship. These were just hand assembled instead of going down an assembly line. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:30:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HomeAtLast]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBigStink: looks cool. too bad its made in china with slave labor So far, the slaves are doing a pretty good job... How large will the ACSS reticle be? |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: With as busy as we are I am not going to get it out of the city for some real world photos. PM me. I will send you a pre production one to test out. There are no changes in coating from what will ship. These were just hand assembled instead of going down an assembly line. Oh shit. Well Ill snag pictures and do a review for you as best I can. Itll also make the rounds at Cola Warrior Flyover 3 to get a group opinion. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 10:50:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11C1P]
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Originally Posted By MARSH1: With as busy as we are I am not going to get it out of the city for some real world photos. PM me. I will send you a pre production one to test out. There are no changes in coating from what will ship. These were just hand assembled instead of going down an assembly line. You can send me one & I'll take it out to the range & test it out, for free! 
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Posted: 5/16/2020 5:29:34 PM EDT
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Water proof? Resistant? Rated?
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Posted: 5/16/2020 5:37:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556_Chowder: Since you’re a fellow freedom lover, thank you for respecting the freedom of an American company to manufacture their products with people of a different nationality than yours. And thank you for allowing other Americans to purchase whatever products they want without injecting your personal politics in a technical forum. Thank you for selling out your country, Chowder. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 5:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Core: ROC Taiwan are good people. Agreed about China, but it's the government not the little people, try not to forget this. Yeah, so why support a communist government hostile to us? |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 10:16:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MARSH1]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strikefirst: Water proof? Resistant? Rated? Yes can be submerged but remember this is not in our GLx line that is duty grade. Will not have deep pressure rating. let me get the exact rating from engineering . |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:21:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556_Chowder]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: Thank you for selling out your country, Chowder. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavymetal762: Originally Posted By 556_Chowder: Since you’re a fellow freedom lover, thank you for respecting the freedom of an American company to manufacture their products with people of a different nationality than yours. And thank you for allowing other Americans to purchase whatever products they want without injecting your personal politics in a technical forum. Thank you for selling out your country, Chowder. Have some class and stop harassing vendors and their customers. 
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:02:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strikefirst: Water proof? Resistant? Rated? Good info in this thread showing it in water LINK |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:17:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11C1P]
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:38:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Oh shit. Well Ill snag pictures and do a review for you as best I can. Itll also make the rounds at Cola Warrior Flyover 3 to get a group opinion. Oooo CW T&E would be AWSOME! |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 10:13:02 AM EDT
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I'd buy 2 of the dots 2 of the FFP 1-8x if ya'll ever get them in stock or an accurate ETA...
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Posted: 6/19/2020 7:49:28 PM EDT
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60 day rule
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