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Posted: 8/8/2018 4:18:19 AM EDT
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I kinda have been looking at building a lightweight piston setup. I had the cash saved to buy a HK a while back. Found one in stock about a hour and half away. A drove 100 miles and once I held the HK I hated it. It was soul crushingly heavy. Not just heavy but the balance was horrible. While there I tried the DDV5 light weight and fell in love. Bought the DD and aimpoint micro that day. I’m playing with the idea of putting a piston on it and cutting the barrel to 14.5
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Posted: 8/8/2018 9:14:53 AM EDT
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The biggest reason why the MR556 is such a pig...is the barrel profile...You have to realize that the M27 has the same barrel profile with a longer, heavier handguard...so the weight is not that far off from the M27.
Honestly, I do not trust any aftermarket piston systems...but thats me. I would own a MR556 in a heart beat if HK would freaking update it to the latest evolution of upgrades... |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 10:55:09 AM EDT
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Sig 516 has a piston system that is very similar to the HK 416. It also costs a lot less. That's a good starting point.
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Posted: 8/8/2018 11:41:20 AM EDT
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Sig 516 has a piston system that is very similar to the HK 416. It also costs a lot less. That's a good starting point. GSG makes an upper that is far cheaper than the HK and uses the same parts as the HK. That would be the best starting point, if you're not wanting to spend HK prices. |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 12:13:37 PM EDT
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If you want an M27 clone, you need an MR556 and the extended rail.
If you try to go in a different direction and try to cheap out with a completely different gun, it won't look anything like what you want, and you won't be happy. |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 12:14:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except it really isn't. He is wanting to build a "M27 clone" or as close to it as possible. The Sig isn't the HK and never will be. GSG makes an upper that is far cheaper than the HK and uses the same parts as the HK. That would be the best starting point, if you're not wanting to spend HK prices. |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 12:23:10 PM EDT
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Except the extended rail won't fit with it because of the rail height difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Except it really isn't. He is wanting to build a "M27 clone" or as close to it as possible. The Sig isn't the HK and never will be. GSG makes an upper that is far cheaper than the HK and uses the same parts as the HK. That would be the best starting point, if you're not wanting to spend HK prices. |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 3:49:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except it really isn't. He is wanting to build a "M27 clone" or as close to it as possible. The Sig isn't the HK and never will be. GSG makes an upper that is far cheaper than the HK and uses the same parts as the HK. That would be the best starting point, if you're not wanting to spend HK prices. |
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Posted: 8/8/2018 3:53:47 PM EDT
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Uppers alone are $1800 and very hard to find. TD went under and GSG 9s are unicorns. He wouldn't be saving a dime. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Except it really isn't. He is wanting to build a "M27 clone" or as close to it as possible. The Sig isn't the HK and never will be. GSG makes an upper that is far cheaper than the HK and uses the same parts as the HK. That would be the best starting point, if you're not wanting to spend HK prices. |
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Posted: 8/10/2018 2:05:54 AM EDT
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How are the Ruger piston SR's? Why do they keep discontinuing models?
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Posted: 8/10/2018 11:17:46 PM EDT
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My M27 wasn’t crazy expensive but I took some artistic liberty in the lower. To me the upper and furniture give the gun the look, not so much the rollmark. The MR556 barrel profile is thick but thats true to the real M27. The barrel profiles are near identical. Thick bitch under the handguard and normal profile after gas block. I wont go into the chrome line drama.
MR556 upper w/ 11” handguard- $1500 (EE) Standard AR lower- $100 E1 stock and grip- $150 (EE) TA11mgo- $1100 All said under $2k for the rifle. In HK land that’s not bad |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:46:33 PM EDT
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I went the TD-415 route.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 5:35:57 PM EDT
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GSG-9 uppers are Todd Bailey setups. We know how well his MP5 operation turned out.
Only way you can do a M27 Clone is with a HK MR556. Anything else will not be a clone nor any of the HK handguard fit it. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:19:45 PM EDT
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GSG-9 uppers are Todd Bailey setups. We know how well his MP5 operation turned out. Only way you can do a M27 Clone is with a HK MR556. Anything else will not be a clone nor any of the HK handguard fit it. Many original German 416 parts are interchangeable. I have done detailed side by side comparison videos. The new version does accept HK416 hand guards as well. |
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