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7/7/2015 7:45:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
nice TC.  you need a PEQ2 manual?  I think I have one layin around somewheres.....
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No, but thank you sir! I bought it new so it came with one - and it more or less operates the same way as my 15s - except it doesn't break.
7/7/2015 7:48:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Speaking of Hollands, thought I'd snap a pic of my baby today. Sitting on my M4gery lower that I use for my Mk 18, so excuse the QR Code.

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Awesome setup! Very close to what I'm thinking of once I start to build my holland. How do you like the CAR stock with the optic setup?
7/7/2015 8:16:11 PM EDT
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Waiting for my second AEM5 to clear. I guess the only thing that's left is to find an S&B Shortdot



Plus I need to re-install the trigger
7/7/2015 9:15:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glass1:







The KAC one is what's listed in the official TM when it was a SOCOM contract gun.



That may have changed for the USMC guns though.



I have an original Mk12 TM if there is any info you guys would like to see scanned and posted.
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Originally Posted By Glass1:



Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:

Refresh my memory - the KAC sling adapter (p/n 98720) is the correct issued sling adapter for a Mod 1, correct?




The KAC one is what's listed in the official TM when it was a SOCOM contract gun.



That may have changed for the USMC guns though.



I have an original Mk12 TM if there is any info you guys would like to see scanned and posted.




 
I would love to have PDF copies of them!
7/7/2015 9:30:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spartanglory11][Edited] [#5]
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)





ETA: Its already up there, but I got it figured out.  Never thought I'd buy a can that's dedicated to a single rifle, but obviously, after my first NFA approvals, it just had to be done.

Gonna be rattle canned to match my Mod 1 a few pages back, so it won't be black for long.

For the sake of the thread:

7/7/2015 9:39:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)

http://s101.photobucket.com/user/alan_worsham/media/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg.html
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"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain
7/7/2015 9:45:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedFerret][Edited] [#7]
nice.
7/7/2015 9:46:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)

http://s101.photobucket.com/user/alan_worsham/media/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg.html


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg



I appreciate the help.  Not to derail the thread, but could you tell me what I did wrong?  I did just as I had when I posted photos in this thread a few months ago and it didn't work this time for some reason.  Ive tried posting photos elsewhere recently without success......
7/7/2015 9:55:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartanglory11:



I appreciate the help.  Not to derail the thread, but could you tell me what I did wrong?  I did just as I had when I posted photos in this thread a few months ago and it didn't work this time for some reason.  Ive tried posting photos elsewhere recently without success......
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Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)

http://s101.photobucket.com/user/alan_worsham/media/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg.html


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg



I appreciate the help.  Not to derail the thread, but could you tell me what I did wrong?  I did just as I had when I posted photos in this thread a few months ago and it didn't work this time for some reason.  Ive tried posting photos elsewhere recently without success......


No problem. I think you used the HTML link when you should have used the IMG.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain
7/7/2015 9:56:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:

Okay! I'll be back in CONUS the end of February '16 at the latest. I'll make sure get RTUtah to organize a mini Mk12 shoot
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Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:

Fun times! Can't wait to come back from deployment to hangout with these guys again



I should be due back from TX around the same time, so hit me up and I'll make the drive from MDstan.  

Okay! I'll be back in CONUS the end of February '16 at the latest. I'll make sure get RTUtah to organize a mini Mk12 shoot


What part of Tx? I willchave my mk12 done by then and will be able to meet up(yeah im inviting myself)
7/7/2015 10:00:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By deuc224:


What part of Tx? I willchave my mk12 done by then and will be able to meet up(yeah im inviting myself)
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Originally Posted By deuc224:
Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:

Fun times! Can't wait to come back from deployment to hangout with these guys again



I should be due back from TX around the same time, so hit me up and I'll make the drive from MDstan.  

Okay! I'll be back in CONUS the end of February '16 at the latest. I'll make sure get RTUtah to organize a mini Mk12 shoot


What part of Tx? I willchave my mk12 done by then and will be able to meet up(yeah im inviting myself)


Lulz.

I'll be in BFE. And the mk12 isn't going with. Just taking my sbr lower, can, and my mk18/300blk uppers. Maybe my 308 if there's room in the car so i can hunt.
7/7/2015 10:44:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M249_junky:
  I would love to have PDF copies of them!


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Originally Posted By M249_junky:





Originally Posted By Glass1:




Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:


Refresh my memory - the KAC sling adapter (p/n 98720) is the correct issued sling adapter for a Mod 1, correct?






The KAC one is what's listed in the official TM when it was a SOCOM contract gun.





That may have changed for the USMC guns though.





I have an original Mk12 TM if there is any info you guys would like to see scanned and posted.



  I would love to have PDF copies of them!







 
That would be great if you would!








ETA: If anybody knows where to get the TM Manual online.  In PDF or otherwise I would be great full.







 
Overkill Is Underated.

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7/7/2015 10:44:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Dejavu:
Originally Posted By Glass1:
Figured I'd post another pic of a Holland. This is a rare example of one with the iron sights mounted.

https://www.badgerordnance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Holland2b.jpg

(Utah, you have a PM.)

Which SOCOM stock is that? Short or long?


Carbine(Short) Correct MOD H stock
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/149/149181.jpg

Rifle(Long)
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/715/715901.jpg


Is the castle nut/ sling plate different on the issued stocks? Looks different on the in the wild pic.
7/7/2015 10:59:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LiquidG:


Is the castle nut/ sling plate different on the issued stocks? Looks different on the in the wild pic.
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Originally Posted By LiquidG:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Dejavu:
Originally Posted By Glass1:
Figured I'd post another pic of a Holland. This is a rare example of one with the iron sights mounted.

https://www.badgerordnance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Holland2b.jpg

(Utah, you have a PM.)

Which SOCOM stock is that? Short or long?


Carbine(Short) Correct MOD H stock
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/149/149181.jpg

Rifle(Long)
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/715/715901.jpg


Is the castle nut/ sling plate different on the issued stocks? Looks different on the in the wild pic.


Yeah, the Hollands have the older style SOCOM stocks on them.
7/8/2015 1:24:26 AM EDT
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Noob question here so bear with me.  I see many of you with rifles painted up to the collar. My entire barrel, brake,  and collar are painted.  Should this be stripped when my AEM5 is out of jail,  or just shoot it and let it burn off?
7/8/2015 3:23:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spermgewehr44:
Noob question here so bear with me.  I see many of you with rifles painted up to the collar. My entire barrel, brake,  and collar are painted.  Should this be stripped when my AEM5 is out of jail,  or just shoot it and let it burn off?
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I shoot and burn. No issues
7/8/2015 7:38:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Form 3 just cleared on the AEM5.

Just need a few moar parts to get this rig finally finished, hopefully by December.
Whatcha need?
 


Leupy 2.5x8, both BUIS, A1 stock, BCG, Geissele, and a sling setup.

Although, the more I think about it, the more I need a NDS A1 lower with M16 engraving.
"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
7/8/2015 7:59:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spermgewehr44:


Noob question here so bear with me.  I see many of you with rifles painted up to the collar. My entire barrel, brake,  and collar are painted.  Should this be stripped when my AEM5 is out of jail,  or just shoot it and let it burn off?
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I painted my Mod1 all the way to the end and let it burn off. All my other muzzles have been masked off before painting though. No issues, I just find it a cleaner process.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1604816_Gentle_Propositions____BOOK_IS_LIVE_ON_AMAZON___.html
7/8/2015 8:24:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:


Waiting for my second AEM5 to clear. I guess the only thing that's left is to find an S&B Shortdot



http://i59.tinypic.com/9h48hy.jpg



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That CQBSS looks perfect on there.




Don't change a thing.
7/8/2015 8:38:55 AM EDT
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Something about the TS30-A2 and a pair of ARMS rings... Bitch looks right.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1604816_Gentle_Propositions____BOOK_IS_LIVE_ON_AMAZON___.html
7/8/2015 10:50:23 AM EDT
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Looks like TX got pushed a couple months (go figure ).  Might have time to get some things together to be able to take the 12 as well.  
7/8/2015 11:04:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Looks like TX got pushed a couple months (go figure ).  Might have time to get some things together to be able to take the 12 as well.  
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If you come to Tx and don't see me, imma haunt your ass.

Just have to convince the wife to cut me loose for a bit. And if it's more like August or after my AEM might be approved.

Also, call ATF if you need to get your 5320.20 moved quickly. Tell them a short notice opportunity came up in TX and see if you can fax them the forms. I did it for my move and had an electronic copy AND paper copies mailed to both my house and my inlaws place in Tx.
7/8/2015 11:18:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg


ETA: Its already up there, but I got it figured out.  Never thought I'd buy a can that's dedicated to a single rifle, but obviously, after my first NFA approvals, it just had to be done.

Gonna be rattle canned to match my Mod 1 a few pages back, so it won't be black for long.

For the sake of the thread:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/image2_zpsp5ghymjf.jpg
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Sick. We are in the same state. I'm waiting on my F4 for my can. We should put together a UT MK12 shoot.
7/8/2015 1:33:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Movistar:

Sick. We are in the same state. I'm waiting on my F4 for my can. We should put together a UT MK12 shoot.
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Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg


ETA: Its already up there, but I got it figured out.  Never thought I'd buy a can that's dedicated to a single rifle, but obviously, after my first NFA approvals, it just had to be done.

Gonna be rattle canned to match my Mod 1 a few pages back, so it won't be black for long.

For the sake of the thread:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/image2_zpsp5ghymjf.jpg

Sick. We are in the same state. I'm waiting on my F4 for my can. We should put together a UT MK12 shoot.



You have a PM.  I wonder where the best place to corral local clone builders in the area would be?  Don't really wanna clog a clone thread up asking around(not that there aren't enough tangent conversations in the clone threads as it is) but at the same time the UTHTF doesn't get a lot of traffic.......  The only other member I can think of at the moment, that may be interested based on pictures he posts is Tactical Coyote, though I don't know him personally.  Just a conjecture.

I may need help sometime in the near future moving into my apartment, so if anyone would take (as payment for help moving) test driving my AEM5 or other guns and some of my ammo and a few beers, we may could work out a business transaction
7/8/2015 2:08:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:


Leupy 2.5x8, both BUIS, A1 stock, BCG, Geissele, and a sling setup.

Although, the more I think about it, the more I need a NDS A1 lower with M16 engraving.
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Form 3 just cleared on the AEM5.

Just need a few moar parts to get this rig finally finished, hopefully by December.
Whatcha need?
 


Leupy 2.5x8, both BUIS, A1 stock, BCG, Geissele, and a sling setup.

Although, the more I think about it, the more I need a NDS A1 lower with M16 engraving.


Just put in the time and effort to finish a 80% lower, she'll look tits then.
Kind of pricey if you don't have access to the tools to do it though but looks damn nice if you do.

I have something to say!
It's better to burn out than to fade away!
7/8/2015 2:21:19 PM EDT
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ModH kinda day
7/8/2015 3:36:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By B7R:
Just put in the time and effort to finish a 80% lower, she'll look tits then.

Kind of pricey if you don't have access to the tools to do it though but looks damn nice if you do.



http://i61.tinypic.com/15plpg9.jpg
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:


Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

Form 3 just cleared on the AEM5.



Just need a few moar parts to get this rig finally finished, hopefully by December.
Whatcha need?

 




Leupy 2.5x8, both BUIS, A1 stock, BCG, Geissele, and a sling setup.



Although, the more I think about it, the more I need a NDS A1 lower with M16 engraving.




Just put in the time and effort to finish a 80% lower, she'll look tits then.

Kind of pricey if you don't have access to the tools to do it though but looks damn nice if you do.



http://i61.tinypic.com/15plpg9.jpg
Nice.  Had me fooled for a second.

 
7/8/2015 3:36:48 PM EDT
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Does anybody have a link for a real nice, high quality picture of a mk12 mod0? Doesn't matter if it's a picture of one "down range", or someone one here took the picture of their own. But I'd like to replace my desktop's background to a picture of that.
 
7/8/2015 8:21:01 PM EDT
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  Something about the TS30-A2 and a pair of ARMS rings... Bitch looks right.

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  Something about the TS30-A2 and a pair of ARMS rings... Bitch looks right.





 
Agreed, sir.
7/9/2015 2:17:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Movistar:

Sick. We are in the same state. I'm waiting on my F4 for my can. We should put together a UT MK12 shoot.
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Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By spartanglory11:
Yeeeeeesssssss.........(in my best satisfied Jeremy Clarkson voice)


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/FullSizeRender_zpsg2y6aax3.jpg


ETA: Its already up there, but I got it figured out.  Never thought I'd buy a can that's dedicated to a single rifle, but obviously, after my first NFA approvals, it just had to be done.

Gonna be rattle canned to match my Mod 1 a few pages back, so it won't be black for long.

For the sake of the thread:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/alan_worsham/image2_zpsp5ghymjf.jpg

Sick. We are in the same state. I'm waiting on my F4 for my can. We should put together a UT MK12 shoot.


I would go for this.  It would be within driving distance for me, depending on dates.
7/9/2015 6:16:11 AM EDT
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Any Mk12s been spotted with an NT4 can?
"They are not men. They are weapons."
7/9/2015 6:58:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
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That is an oxymoron.

A recce, though, yes.
7/9/2015 7:03:13 AM EDT
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Any Mk12s been spotted with an NT4 can?
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The ops 12th/aem5 are the biggest defining factor for the MK12. Sooo, no.

 
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7/9/2015 7:15:05 AM EDT
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Yeah.

I just figured since any muzzle device could be threaded on the barrel, and there are more than a fair share of NT4s in service, that maybe it had been seen.
"They are not men. They are weapons."
7/9/2015 7:49:20 AM EDT
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Seem in the wild, no. However logically if another suppressor was going to be used that would be it.

Maybe that would make it cross the line from a Holland into being a Recce but I would bet if we could get a picture of every weapon in use over the past 14 years I would bet we would see at least one like that, as well as other things that would probably make some cloners on here stroke out.

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Yeah.

I just figured since any muzzle device could be threaded on the barrel, and there are more than a fair share of NT4s in service, that maybe it had been seen.
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7/9/2015 8:00:04 AM EDT
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Seem in the wild, no. However logically if another suppressor was going to be used that would be it.



Maybe that would make it cross the line from a Holland into being a Recce but I would bet if we could get a picture of every weapon in use over the past 14 years I would bet we would see at least one like that, as well as other things that would probably make some cloners on here stroke out.






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Seem in the wild, no. However logically if another suppressor was going to be used that would be it.



Maybe that would make it cross the line from a Holland into being a Recce but I would bet if we could get a picture of every weapon in use over the past 14 years I would bet we would see at least one like that, as well as other things that would probably make some cloners on here stroke out.




Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

Yeah.



I just figured since any muzzle device could be threaded on the barrel, and there are more than a fair share of NT4s in service, that maybe it had been seen.






 
That would technically cross into the SEAL recce rifle realm, another unicorn favorite of mine.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1604816_Gentle_Propositions____BOOK_IS_LIVE_ON_AMAZON___.html
7/9/2015 8:00:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:
Seem in the wild, no. However logically if another suppressor was going to be used that would be it.

Maybe that would make it cross the line from a Holland into being a Recce but I would bet if we could get a picture of every weapon in use over the past 14 years I would bet we would see at least one like that, as well as other things that would probably make some cloners on here stroke out.


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Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:
Seem in the wild, no. However logically if another suppressor was going to be used that would be it.

Maybe that would make it cross the line from a Holland into being a Recce but I would bet if we could get a picture of every weapon in use over the past 14 years I would bet we would see at least one like that, as well as other things that would probably make some cloners on here stroke out.

Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Yeah.

I just figured since any muzzle device could be threaded on the barrel, and there are more than a fair share of NT4s in service, that maybe it had been seen.



Considering the overwhelming number of CAA and UTG equipped rigs i saw overseas, i wouldn't consider it a stretch to assume there was an NT4 equipped mk12 at some point. Maybe bubba wrecked his 12th can and the armorer was short on replacements but had a surplus of nt4 cans. Who knows. Have i personally seen it? Newp.

Would i discount it simply because a thread on a forum said so? Not at all.
7/9/2015 9:15:53 AM EDT
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"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
7/9/2015 9:28:04 AM EDT
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"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
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That is easily the best testimonial OPS or AE could ever ask for.



 
7/9/2015 9:47:51 AM EDT
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"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
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"Because I can"- F@ck'n gangsta

On a unrelated note: if you're at 5th and you ever need any S1 shit unfucked, Hit me up.
7/9/2015 10:07:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18E3V:
"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
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I was just throwing it out there as a distant possibility.  


Marines break everything.  
7/9/2015 10:44:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18E3V:
"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
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I actually had been pondering whether at any point Hollands might end up having a Surefire thrown on. Either for weight savings or compatibility or something. We've now seen mention of the Mod H being unknown to newer generations of cool dudes in said unit, and a guy on M4c described the Holland but didn't know what it was called till I inspired him to google it.

It stands to reason that at some point, maybe not now, but maybe there will come a point where someone dusts off a Mod H that was collecting dust in the arms room and has the armorer throw a Surefire on it. Weight is 17oz on Surefire vs 21 on AEM5 for example, plus weight differences between flash hider for SF vs Ops brake/collar.
7/9/2015 11:28:02 AM EDT
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7/9/2015 12:13:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By plante74:



The ops 12th/aem5 are the biggest defining factor for the MK12. Sooo, no.  
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

Any Mk12s been spotted with an NT4 can?
The ops 12th/aem5 are the biggest defining factor for the MK12. Sooo, no.  




 
At least with the MK12 clone game, the suppressor is pretty affordable - compared to the Surefires and KACs anyway. Significantly cheaper (yet built just as tough and quieter as well).




I kinda want to pick up another AE can I like the AEM5 so much. It's a sweet can.
7/9/2015 1:24:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18E3V:
"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
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Awesome to hear.

I shudder to think of what will happen to all of those Ops cans when all of the Hollands and Mod 1s are redlined
"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
7/9/2015 1:34:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Awesome to hear.



I shudder to think of what will happen to all of those Ops cans when all of the Hollands and Mod 1s are redlined
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Originally Posted By 18E3V:

"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12




Awesome to hear.



I shudder to think of what will happen to all of those Ops cans when all of the Hollands and Mod 1s are redlined




 
They get chopped up into little bits and pieces
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7/9/2015 1:35:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:

  They get chopped up into little bits and pieces
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By 18E3V:
"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12


Awesome to hear.

I shudder to think of what will happen to all of those Ops cans when all of the Hollands and Mod 1s are redlined

  They get chopped up into little bits and pieces


DRMO shredders can be very good at creating scrap where there once was none....
7/9/2015 2:34:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:

  At least with the MK12 clone game, the suppressor is pretty affordable - compared to the Surefires and KACs anyway. Significantly cheaper (yet built just as tough and quieter as well).


I kinda want to pick up another AE can I like the AEM5 so much. It's a sweet can.
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By plante74:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Any Mk12s been spotted with an NT4 can?
The ops 12th/aem5 are the biggest defining factor for the MK12. Sooo, no.  

  At least with the MK12 clone game, the suppressor is pretty affordable - compared to the Surefires and KACs anyway. Significantly cheaper (yet built just as tough and quieter as well).


I kinda want to pick up another AE can I like the AEM5 so much. It's a sweet can.

Same. I love mine (the bit I've got to handle and use it) that I've already started looking Into other options with AE. I'm very interested in an AEM3
7/9/2015 3:02:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18E3V:
"Maybe bubba wreaked his OPS 12th model..." Not likely LOL.  We are still running our original cans from the original SPR's on our 'new' Hollands..... I personally have over 10,000 rounds through the one on my work gun, alot of which is on full auto (why you ask, because I can...), and my work can sounds as good if not better than my personal 12th models (I have 2 of my own).  The Nt4 is not anywhere near as quiet, and, while would work if need be, there is just no good reason I could see to put one on a MK12
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Not a whole lot of "bubbas" running Mk12s.

18E3V, IM sent.
7/9/2015 4:53:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Movistar:





Same. I love mine (the bit I've got to handle and use it) that I've already started looking Into other options with AE. I'm very interested in an AEM3
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Originally Posted By Movistar:



Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:


Originally Posted By plante74:


Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

Any Mk12s been spotted with an NT4 can?
The ops 12th/aem5 are the biggest defining factor for the MK12. Sooo, no.  


  At least with the MK12 clone game, the suppressor is pretty affordable - compared to the Surefires and KACs anyway. Significantly cheaper (yet built just as tough and quieter as well).





I kinda want to pick up another AE can I like the AEM5 so much. It's a sweet can.



Same. I love mine (the bit I've got to handle and use it) that I've already started looking Into other options with AE. I'm very interested in an AEM3




 
FWIW, the AEM2 suppresses damn near as well as my 15th (AEM3 equivalent). If I had to pick one or the other, I'd opt for the AEM2 every time.
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