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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 9:08:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ShaneWang] [#1]
I thought I lost this old picture I made  Oh look at me, I own this page now
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:52:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Blanco_Diablo] [#2]
Well mine is still a work in progress but I'm getting there. The top rail is on the way, still need the ARMS #40, then a scope and mounts. Also running into an issue with the collar..I have one from my old build that I sold, but the set screw is stripped out. Was hoping I'd be able to get the screw replaced but I think the threads on the collar are buggered, too, and I can't even extract the screw. And of course no one has collars on stock right now . Guess I'll have to wait. In the meantime..I thought I knew the answer to this question but now I'm confused. I want the long collar for a Mod0, right?



ETA: I'll be going with a SOPMOD stock, I had just thrown this one together.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:54:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale] [#3]
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Well mine is still a work in progress but I'm getting there. The top rail is on the way, still need the ARMS #40, then a scope and mounts. Also running into an issue with the collar..I have one from my old build that I sold, but the set screw is stripped out. Was hoping I'd be able to get the screw replaced but I think the threads on the collar are buggered, too, and I can't even extract the screw. And of course no one has collars on stock right now . Guess I'll have to wait. In the meantime..I thought I knew the answer to this question but now I'm confused. I want the long collar for a Mod0, right?

https://i.ibb.co/Lxcrz5k/20200526-134509.jpg

ETA: I'll be going with a SOPMOD stock, I had just thrown this one together.
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Long collar for all of Mk12.

Hit up Allen Engineering, im pretty certain Ron has collars in stock.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:58:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Well mine is still a work in progress but I'm getting there. The top rail is on the way, still need the ARMS #40, then a scope and mounts. Also running into an issue with the collar..I have one from my old build that I sold, but the set screw is stripped out. Was hoping I'd be able to get the screw replaced but I think the threads on the collar are buggered, too, and I can't even extract the screw. And of course no one has collars on stock right now . Guess I'll have to wait. In the meantime..I thought I knew the answer to this question but now I'm confused. I want the long collar for a Mod0, right?

https://i.ibb.co/Lxcrz5k/20200526-134509.jpg

ETA: I'll be going with a SOPMOD stock, I had just thrown this one together.
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Aye. Long collar for all three if doing a clone. If not doing a clone and wanting security in rotations on the 12th/AEM5, then short collar on a Mod 0.  

Collars went in to and out of stock so fast at ADCO it was mind boggling.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:59:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Well mine is still a work in progress but I'm getting there. The top rail is on the way, still need the ARMS #40, then a scope and mounts. Also running into an issue with the collar..I have one from my old build that I sold, but the set screw is stripped out. Was hoping I'd be able to get the screw replaced but I think the threads on the collar are buggered, too, and I can't even extract the screw. And of course no one has collars on stock right now . Guess I'll have to wait. In the meantime..I thought I knew the answer to this question but now I'm confused. I want the long collar for a Mod0, right?

https://i.ibb.co/Lxcrz5k/20200526-134509.jpg

ETA: I'll be going with a SOPMOD stock, I had just thrown this one together.
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Drill and tap the collar for a larger set screw.  I did this with all of mine.  Takes about five minutes.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 11:02:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Engineer5:


Drill and tap the collar for a larger set screw.  I did this with all of mine.  Takes about five minutes.
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Well mine is still a work in progress but I'm getting there. The top rail is on the way, still need the ARMS #40, then a scope and mounts. Also running into an issue with the collar..I have one from my old build that I sold, but the set screw is stripped out. Was hoping I'd be able to get the screw replaced but I think the threads on the collar are buggered, too, and I can't even extract the screw. And of course no one has collars on stock right now . Guess I'll have to wait. In the meantime..I thought I knew the answer to this question but now I'm confused. I want the long collar for a Mod0, right?

https://i.ibb.co/Lxcrz5k/20200526-134509.jpg

ETA: I'll be going with a SOPMOD stock, I had just thrown this one together.


Drill and tap the collar for a larger set screw.  I did this with all of mine.  Takes about five minutes.


What size do you tend to go with?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 11:05:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunterex:


What size do you tend to go with?
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#10-32 x 1/8"
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:12:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Thinking of switching to a sopmod stock / carbine buffer tube instead of the A1 stock.  Should I go with a H or H2 buffer?

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 8:21:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Can't decide which scope to run on here .. I have an extra until my Holland project gets finished. NF is NF, but, I really like the look of a bigger scope on the Mod 1. What do you guys think?
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Also, I'll have some update pics of the Mod 0 Friday afternoon/Saturday
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 9:12:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
Can't decide which scope to run on here .. I have an extra until my Holland project gets finished. NF is NF, but, I really like the look of a bigger scope on the Mod 1. What do you guys think?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200527_190949_jpg-1435295.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200527_190902_jpg-1435294.JPG

Also, I'll have some update pics of the Mod 0 Friday afternoon/Saturday
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X24 matches better with Mod 1. 3.5-10s were really an early SPR thing, not counting the M110 scopes on Mod 1s at a few sniper comps.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:14:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
Can't decide which scope to run on here .. I have an extra until my Holland project gets finished. NF is NF, but, I really like the look of a bigger scope on the Mod 1. What do you guys think?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200527_190949_jpg-1435295.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200527_190902_jpg-1435294.JPG

Also, I'll have some update pics of the Mod 0 Friday afternoon/Saturday
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Sell me your x24 and then the decision is made
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 10:28:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


X24 matches better with Mod 1. 3.5-10s were really an early SPR thing, not counting the M110 scopes on Mod 1s at a few sniper comps.
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Fair point. I suppose to remain correct, I will keep the NF on there.
Originally Posted By Maddy21:


Sell me your x24 and then the decision is made
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There will be a home for the 2 scopes eventually Holland has been started, but will be slow progress
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 11:58:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
Can't decide which scope to run on here .. I have an extra until my Holland project gets finished. NF is NF, but, I really like the look of a bigger scope on the Mod 1. What do you guys think?
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I like the look of Leupold 36mm objective scopes or the Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50 F1 on the Mod 1.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:03:08 PM EDT
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probably not relevant to mk12 but there's a MIL-SPEC marked x32 on the SH PX this morning
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:14:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
Can't decide which scope to run on here .. I have an extra until my Holland project gets finished. NF is NF, but, I really like the look of a bigger scope on the Mod 1. What do you guys think?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200527_190949_jpg-1435295.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200527_190902_jpg-1435294.JPG

Also, I'll have some update pics of the Mod 0 Friday afternoon/Saturday
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Slab sides are icky.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:18:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

Slab sides are icky.
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You already know whats comin

The parts I was waiting on showed up a day early, so I MIGHT post up the new photos today
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:19:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

You already know whats comin

The parts I was waiting on showed up a day early, so I MIGHT post up the new photos today
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Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:28:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale] [#18]
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

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But..I agree, the old illumination housing looks much better
Here is my clone glass as for now.

I swapped your NF rings to my x24 @ArmyPilot12
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Does anybody happen to know what height NF rings are "correct"?
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:37:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

But..I agree, the old illumination housing looks much better
Here is my clone glass as for now.

I swapped your NF rings to my x24 @ArmyPilot12
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_122427_jpg-1436116.JPG

Doesn't anybody happen to know what height NF rings are "correct"?
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Since mine was on a Mod H, NF A203 (1.5") or A110 (1.375") are supposed to be correct IAW the Mod H page specs. Mod H page

I'm tall and like taller rings so I don't have to lay my head sideways to look through scopes/sights, that's why it had the A203 rings.

It gives me a little more "head up" and comfortable position.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:41:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

Since mine was on a Mod H, NF A203 (1.5") or A110 (1.375") are supposed to be correct IAW the Mod H page specs. Mod H page

I'm tall and like taller rings so I don't have to lay my head sideways to look through scopes/sights, that's why it had the A203 rings.

It gives me a little more "head up" and comfortable position.
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Absolutely agree with that. Coming from the ARMS 22H to these for the x24 gives it a new level of comfort that didnt previously exist. However, since my Mod 1 I would consider to be more legit than my Mod 0, I am willing to suffer if the "correct" rings are to be something different/shorter.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:50:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

Absolutely agree with that. Coming from the ARMS 22H to these for the x24 gives it a new level of comfort that didnt previously exist. However, since my Mod 1 I would consider to be more legit than my Mod 0, I am willing to suffer if the "correct" rings are to be something different/shorter.
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Well if you're going for "as issued" clone correct, you're stuck with #22 highs.

You could always do what most people do and find an "in the wild" pic of what you want and say "see, it did exist!"
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:55:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale] [#22]
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

Well if you're going for "as issued" clone correct, you're stuck with #22 highs.

You could always do what most people do and find an "in the wild" pic of what you want and say "see, it did exist!"
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The ITW sighting is what im aiming for xP haha! Much like the NF 3.5-15 F1 being "correct"

I cant tell via ITW pictures what the height of these rings would be, 1.5" seems too tall for the pictures I've seen with an x24.. i guess I'll run it this way until someone yells at me
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 1:56:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

Well if you're going for "as issued" clone correct, you're stuck with #22 highs.

You could always do what most people do and find an "in the wild" pic of what you want and say "see, it did exist!"
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I like your 2nd idea haha
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 2:24:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

Well if you're going for "as issued" clone correct, you're stuck with #22 highs.

You could always do what most people do and find an "in the wild" pic of what you want and say "see, it did exist!"
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Originally Posted By kmcale:

Absolutely agree with that. Coming from the ARMS 22H to these for the x24 gives it a new level of comfort that didnt previously exist. However, since my Mod 1 I would consider to be more legit than my Mod 0, I am willing to suffer if the "correct" rings are to be something different/shorter.

Well if you're going for "as issued" clone correct, you're stuck with #22 highs.

You could always do what most people do and find an "in the wild" pic of what you want and say "see, it did exist!"


Not sure what you're getting at here. The x24 was considered an "issued" optic for Navy Mod 1s as NSW had contracts with Nightforce. It's more than just a scope being relocated from another weapon, or personal purchase. And more often than not they were supplied with Nightforce rings of some kind. In some cases other rings were used too.










I'm sure there's plenty more Mod 1/NF pics, I stopped tracking Mod 1s as hard a while back and have gotten lazy about grabbing pics, lazier even about putting them in the gallery.
Also, the thread was never established for the "Crane Spec Only" crowd. Crane Supplied and clone-a-photo have always been equally regarded in these parts. It's the random mixmaster builds that get more scrutiny or ire.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 3:11:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale] [#25]
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


Not sure what you're getting at here. The x24 was considered an "issued" optic for Navy Mod 1s as NSW had contracts with Nightforce. It's more than just a scope being relocated from another weapon, or personal purchase. And more often than not they were supplied with Nightforce rings of some kind. In some cases other rings were used too.
https://i.imgur.com/1AKqpMA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/f4kY59k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8nqN9oZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YwZSvKN.png

https://i.imgur.com/VNlzrDb.jpg

I'm sure there's plenty more Mod 1/NF pics, I stopped tracking Mod 1s as hard a while back and have gotten lazy about grabbing pics, lazier even about putting them in the gallery.
Also, the thread was never established for the "Crane Spec Only" crowd. Crane Supplied and clone-a-photo have always been equally regarded in these parts. It's the random mixmaster builds that get more scrutiny or ire.
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I think mostly what he was getting at is the rings specifically. As far as I'm aware of, the original issue of the Mod 1 was furnished with Arms 22H. If I am wrong, I gladly welcome the schooling as I'm no expert on it, just a big nerd eager to know more.
The x24 I've known to be correct for NSW clones, so for me personally, I know/knew it was a safe purchase. Though, my reticle isn't correct, nor is the scope "nav-spec" marked.

To what I have put in bold, that leaves a lot of open grounds for NF rings..the likelihood of 1.5" being a "correct" option is much greater - which is essentially the answer I was looking for. As per usual, I appreciate your input @lancecriminal86

ETA: The first 2 images in your post look like they could very well be 1.5" rings, not sure how one would confirm that though. So I think I'm going to run it with these NF rings until I get yelled at
I also do hope that you decide to pick up the Mod 1 photo hunting/putting together a gallery. The work you've done for both the Mod 0 imgur galleries are awesome
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 4:16:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


Not sure what you're getting at here. The x24 was considered an "issued" optic for Navy Mod 1s as NSW had contracts with Nightforce. It's more than just a scope being relocated from another weapon, or personal purchase. And more often than not they were supplied with Nightforce rings of some kind. In some cases other rings were used too.
https://i.imgur.com/1AKqpMA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/f4kY59k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8nqN9oZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YwZSvKN.png

https://i.imgur.com/VNlzrDb.jpg

I'm sure there's plenty more Mod 1/NF pics, I stopped tracking Mod 1s as hard a while back and have gotten lazy about grabbing pics, lazier even about putting them in the gallery.
Also, the thread was never established for the "Crane Spec Only" crowd. Crane Supplied and clone-a-photo have always been equally regarded in these parts. It's the random mixmaster builds that get more scrutiny or ire.
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Chill dude.

All I was implying was is that there have been so many users of Mod 1s, that have customized their rifle for their use (i.e. rings, scopes, buttstocks, etc...), that he could probably find a rifle configured how he wants.

The Mod H URX4 being a prime example. URX4 handguard, PEPR mount, and ATACR scope. None of those parts are on any "clone" list but the rifle really exists in the wild.
Link Posted: 5/28/2020 5:04:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

Fair point. I suppose to remain correct, I will keep the NF on there.

There will be a home for the 2 scopes eventually Holland has been started, but will be slow progress
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For sure! That will be a fun build.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 2:58:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale] [#28]
I was going to post this yesterday, but I've been heavily distracted by all the crazy shit going on over here.

BUT...here it is currently

What I've been told, the bipod is early 2000s? Not sure how one would prove that, the bipod looks pretty identical to the other 2 that I have...but the OG pod lock ...
Also, the handguard modification is holding up well.
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The Swan Sleeve and early "NLS" ARMS #17 with #32 Harris bipod adapter. I know the particular sleeve I have isn't "correct", but it's 100% better than the PRI PEQ repro I had on there imho.
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Colt AF upper, something I was pretty excited about finding at the price I found it for. This was the first thing I got for this build, not a new addition to the rifle for this post. -teardrop FA not original to the upper
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Though it may not be as comfortable...I think I like the look of the beat up and mottled A1 grip on here more than an Ergo .. fits in nicely with the "well used" looking A1 stock I swapped to, it was previously a NOS A1 Type E.
Oh, and also a soft reference to the early Uncle Mike's adapter since there isn't a good shot of it. Thanks @DStepec for that hook up. I'm getting that cloner disease pretty hard as of late..
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"NLS" ARMS 22M, wingless #40 rear...a shame the sleeve isn't wingless...and great shot of the "new" glass. Again, thank you @ArmyPilot12
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Been a little spoiled with the TMR reticle with my other Mk4, the Mildot is not my cup if tea, but still shoots like a laser beam once I get in a groove at 200yds

I'm truly having a bitch of a time deciding if I like this or the Mod Juan more ..
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 7:00:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
I was going to post this yesterday, but I've been heavily distracted by all the crazy shit going on over here.

BUT...here it is currently

What I've been told, the bipod is early 2000s? Not sure how one would prove that, the bipod looks pretty identical to the other 2 that I have...but the OG pod lock ...
Also, the handguard modification is holding up well.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144822_jpg-1438669.JPG

The Swan Sleeve and early "NLS" ARMS #17 with #32 Harris bipod adapter. I know the particular sleeve I have isn't "correct", but it's 100% better than the PRI PEQ repro I had on there imho.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144641_jpg-1438671.JPG

Colt AF upper, something I was pretty excited about finding at the price I found it for. This was the first thing I got for this build, not a new addition to the rifle for this post. -teardrop FA not original to the upper
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144348_jpg-1438673.JPG

Though it may not be as comfortable...I think I like the look of the beat up and mottled A1 grip on here more than an Ergo .. fits in nicely with the "well used" looking A1 stock I swapped to, it was previously a NOS A1 Type E.
Oh, and also a soft reference to the early Uncle Mike's adapter since there isn't a good shot of it. Thanks @DStepec for that hook up. I'm getting that cloner disease pretty hard as of late..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_145304_jpg-1438674.JPG

"NLS" ARMS 22M, wingless #40 rear...a shame the sleeve isn't wingless...and great shot of the "new" glass. Again, thank you @ArmyPilot12
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_145015_jpg-1438677.JPG

Been a little spoiled with the TMR reticle with my other Mk4, the Mildot is not my cup if tea, but still shoots like a laser beam once I get in a groove at 200yds

I'm truly having a bitch of a time deciding if I like this or the Mod Juan more ..
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Link Posted: 5/30/2020 9:12:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
I was going to post this yesterday, but I've been heavily distracted by all the crazy shit going on over here.

BUT...here it is currently

What I've been told, the bipod is early 2000s? Not sure how one would prove that, the bipod looks pretty identical to the other 2 that I have...but the OG pod lock ...
Also, the handguard modification is holding up well.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144822_jpg-1438669.JPG

The Swan Sleeve and early "NLS" ARMS #17 with #32 Harris bipod adapter. I know the particular sleeve I have isn't "correct", but it's 100% better than the PRI PEQ repro I had on there imho.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144641_jpg-1438671.JPG

Colt AF upper, something I was pretty excited about finding at the price I found it for. This was the first thing I got for this build, not a new addition to the rifle for this post. -teardrop FA not original to the upper
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144348_jpg-1438673.JPG

Though it may not be as comfortable...I think I like the look of the beat up and mottled A1 grip on here more than an Ergo .. fits in nicely with the "well used" looking A1 stock I swapped to, it was previously a NOS A1 Type E.
Oh, and also a soft reference to the early Uncle Mike's adapter since there isn't a good shot of it. Thanks @DStepec for that hook up. I'm getting that cloner disease pretty hard as of late..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_145304_jpg-1438674.JPG

"NLS" ARMS 22M, wingless #40 rear...a shame the sleeve isn't wingless...and great shot of the "new" glass. Again, thank you @ArmyPilot12
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_145015_jpg-1438677.JPG

Been a little spoiled with the TMR reticle with my other Mk4, the Mildot is not my cup if tea, but still shoots like a laser beam once I get in a groove at 200yds

I'm truly having a bitch of a time deciding if I like this or the Mod Juan more ..
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Link Posted: 5/30/2020 4:51:07 PM EDT
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Just to highlight the differences between Gen 1 and Gen 2 vent holes. These original Gen 2 vents are also different from Gen 2 repros.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 7:46:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
I was going to post this yesterday, but I've been heavily distracted by all the crazy shit going on over here.

BUT...here it is currently

What I've been told, the bipod is early 2000s? Not sure how one would prove that, the bipod looks pretty identical to the other 2 that I have...but the OG pod lock ...
Also, the handguard modification is holding up well.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144822_jpg-1438669.JPG

The Swan Sleeve and early "NLS" ARMS #17 with #32 Harris bipod adapter. I know the particular sleeve I have isn't "correct", but it's 100% better than the PRI PEQ repro I had on there imho.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144641_jpg-1438671.JPG

Colt AF upper, something I was pretty excited about finding at the price I found it for. This was the first thing I got for this build, not a new addition to the rifle for this post. -teardrop FA not original to the upper
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_144348_jpg-1438673.JPG

Though it may not be as comfortable...I think I like the look of the beat up and mottled A1 grip on here more than an Ergo .. fits in nicely with the "well used" looking A1 stock I swapped to, it was previously a NOS A1 Type E.
Oh, and also a soft reference to the early Uncle Mike's adapter since there isn't a good shot of it. Thanks @DStepec for that hook up. I'm getting that cloner disease pretty hard as of late..
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_145304_jpg-1438674.JPG

"NLS" ARMS 22M, wingless #40 rear...a shame the sleeve isn't wingless...and great shot of the "new" glass. Again, thank you @ArmyPilot12
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20200528_145015_jpg-1438677.JPG

Been a little spoiled with the TMR reticle with my other Mk4, the Mildot is not my cup if tea, but still shoots like a laser beam once I get in a groove at 200yds

I'm truly having a bitch of a time deciding if I like this or the Mod Juan more ..
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Man you're going to make me feel bad posting later lol

Honestly, if you did the mod to slightly open/shift the holes closer to 3/9 o'clock and threw some button heads in there that Handguard is going to look boss till we crack the code on OG Barrel nuts and collars.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 9:10:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


Man you're going to make me feel bad posting later lol

Honestly, if you did the mod to slightly open/shift the holes closer to 3/9 o'clock and threw some button heads in there that Handguard is going to look boss till we crack the code on OG Barrel nuts and collars.
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As butthurt as I may become...I am looking forward to it. You mean move the screw holes closer to the 3 and 9 o'clock right? I thought about doing that tbh. I want to because Sara Jane..but, I didnt have a legit PEQ sleeve then, and now I'm not even using the repro. After looking through your early SPR photo gallery a few times, if its not Sara Jane, I think I like the look of the original tube without the screws more

That is something that pops out as an eye sore to me -the barrel nut- since it's been brought up on and off the last page or two. How far out we looking until you gracefully shit on all of us with a glorious Mod 0?
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 9:20:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

As butthurt as I may become...I am looking forward to it. You mean move the screw holes closer to the 3 and 9 o'clock right? I thought about doing that tbh. I want to because Sara Jane..but, I didnt have a legit PEQ sleeve then, and now I'm not even using the repro. After looking through your early SPR photo gallery a few times, if its not Sara Jane, I think I like the look of the original tube without the screws more

That is something that pops out as an eye sore to me -the barrel nut- since it's been brought up on and off the last page or two. How far out we looking until you gracefully shit on all of us with a glorious Mod 0?
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


Man you're going to make me feel bad posting later lol

Honestly, if you did the mod to slightly open/shift the holes closer to 3/9 o'clock and threw some button heads in there that Handguard is going to look boss till we crack the code on OG Barrel nuts and collars.

As butthurt as I may become...I am looking forward to it. You mean move the screw holes closer to the 3 and 9 o'clock right? I thought about doing that tbh. I want to because Sara Jane..but, I didnt have a legit PEQ sleeve then, and now I'm not even using the repro. After looking through your early SPR photo gallery a few times, if its not Sara Jane, I think I like the look of the original tube without the screws more

That is something that pops out as an eye sore to me -the barrel nut- since it's been brought up on and off the last page or two. How far out we looking until you gracefully shit on all of us with a glorious Mod 0?


He means the vent holes. Look at the image I posted above him and you'll see the different planes they're on. That said, I say keep them just as you have them.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 10:30:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PerfectTurn] [#35]
Hey guys, question for you all.  I've been working on my mod 1 as some of you know and was up in the air on a barrel in the last couple weeks.  Was thinking about the surplus ones, then got on the list at HCS.   I ended up getting distracted because a friend of mine passed away and I had a long road trip to pick up some things he left for me.  He was a couple mosins, couple lever guns, couple 22s and 1 off the shelf AR kind of guy.  As I was leaving loaded up, she said there was 1 more thing and whipped out a barrel and asked if I wanted it.  I thought it was odd as he wasn't the kind of guy to build a rifle or even work on one.  Anyway I just got home and looked at it and it's a WOA 18" spr profiled 1/7 barrel.

Besides the fact that I was having weird vibes seeing his stuff get distributed, it's giving me extra weird vibes that he had this not exactly common barrel for an average guy sitting there when I have been trying to figure the exact same barrel out in recent weeks.  I mean seriously, what the hell are the odds....

Sorry for the life story, still processing, but are these barrels worth a shit?



Link Posted: 5/30/2020 10:33:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Hey guys, question for you all.  I've been working on my mod 1 as some of you know and was up in the air on a barrel in the last couple weeks.  Was thinking about the surplus ones, then got on the list at HCS.   I ended up getting distracted because a friend of mine passed away and I had a long road trip to pick up some things he left for me.  He was a couple mosins, couple lever guns, couple 22s and 1 off the shelf AR kind of guy.  As I was leaving loaded up, she said there was 1 more thing and whipped out a barrel and asked if I wanted it.  I thought it was odd as he wasn't the kind of guy to build a rifle or even work on one.  Anyway I just got home and looked at it and it's a WOA 18" spr profiled 1/7 barrel.

Besides the fact that I was having weird vibes seeing his stuff get distributed, it's giving me extra weird vibes that he had this not exactly common barrel for an average guy sitting there when I have been trying to figure the exact same barrel out in recent weeks.  I mean seriously, what the hell are the odds....

Sorry for the life story, still processing, but are these barrels worth a shit?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49954325752_e6636bfd3d_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49953542133_8910d8ea46_c.jpg
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I built my Mod 1 with a WOA barrel. It shoots very nice
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 10:53:46 PM EDT
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WOA are known solid shooters, especially for their price.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 10:54:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Hey guys, question for you all.  I've been working on my mod 1 as some of you know and was up in the air on a barrel in the last couple weeks.  Was thinking about the surplus ones, then got on the list at HCS.   I ended up getting distracted because a friend of mine passed away and I had a long road trip to pick up some things he left for me.  He was a couple mosins, couple lever guns, couple 22s and 1 off the shelf AR kind of guy.  As I was leaving loaded up, she said there was 1 more thing and whipped out a barrel and asked if I wanted it.  I thought it was odd as he wasn't the kind of guy to build a rifle or even work on one.  Anyway I just got home and looked at it and it's a WOA 18" spr profiled 1/7 barrel.

Besides the fact that I was having weird vibes seeing his stuff get distributed, it's giving me extra weird vibes that he had this not exactly common barrel for an average guy sitting there when I have been trying to figure the exact same barrel out in recent weeks.  I mean seriously, what the hell are the odds....

Sorry for the life story, still processing, but are these barrels worth a shit?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49954325752_e6636bfd3d_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49953542133_8910d8ea46_c.jpg
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WOA makes some fine barrels.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 10:55:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Hey guys, question for you all.  I've been working on my mod 1 as some of you know and was up in the air on a barrel in the last couple weeks.  Was thinking about the surplus ones, then got on the list at HCS.   I ended up getting distracted because a friend of mine passed away and I had a long road trip to pick up some things he left for me.  He was a couple mosins, couple lever guns, couple 22s and 1 off the shelf AR kind of guy.  As I was leaving loaded up, she said there was 1 more thing and whipped out a barrel and asked if I wanted it.  I thought it was odd as he wasn't the kind of guy to build a rifle or even work on one.  Anyway I just got home and looked at it and it's a WOA 18" spr profiled 1/7 barrel.

Besides the fact that I was having weird vibes seeing his stuff get distributed, it's giving me extra weird vibes that he had this not exactly common barrel for an average guy sitting there when I have been trying to figure the exact same barrel out in recent weeks.  I mean seriously, what the hell are the odds....

Sorry for the life story, still processing, but are these barrels worth a shit?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49954325752_e6636bfd3d_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49953542133_8910d8ea46_c.jpg
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I have a non-clone gun equipped with a White Oak SPR, its not a bad barrel, but I can say with certainty, you'll be much happier with the HCS

ETA: I am sorry to hear about your friend.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 10:58:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunterex:


He means the vent holes. Look at the image I posted above him and you'll see the different planes they're on. That said, I say keep them just as you have them.
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I thought that may be the case, I was hopeful he was referring to screw holes because covering all the vent holes and redrilling would be a huge pain and risk of ruining the whole handguard. I'll hold out on that haha! I know its not perfect, but I am happy with how my tube turned out
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 11:37:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

I thought that may be the case, I was hopeful he was referring to screw holes because covering all the vent holes and redrilling would be a huge pain and risk of ruining the whole handguard. I'll hold out on that haha! I know its not perfect, but I am happy with how my tube turned out
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You should be. It came out great.

Now we have to talk you in to doing a Gen 3 build.
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 11:57:09 PM EDT
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You should be. It came out great.

Now we have to talk you in to doing a Gen 3 build.
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It will be a short conversation ... I already want to do one.. haha! *insert uncontrollable crying emote*
Link Posted: 5/30/2020 11:58:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kmcale:

I have a non-clone gun equipped with a White Oak SPR, its not a bad barrel, but I can say with certainty, you'll be much happier with the HCS
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Originally Posted By kmcale:
Originally Posted By DStepec:
Hey guys, question for you all.  I've been working on my mod 1 as some of you know and was up in the air on a barrel in the last couple weeks.  Was thinking about the surplus ones, then got on the list at HCS.   I ended up getting distracted because a friend of mine passed away and I had a long road trip to pick up some things he left for me.  He was a couple mosins, couple lever guns, couple 22s and 1 off the shelf AR kind of guy.  As I was leaving loaded up, she said there was 1 more thing and whipped out a barrel and asked if I wanted it.  I thought it was odd as he wasn't the kind of guy to build a rifle or even work on one.  Anyway I just got home and looked at it and it's a WOA 18" spr profiled 1/7 barrel.

Besides the fact that I was having weird vibes seeing his stuff get distributed, it's giving me extra weird vibes that he had this not exactly common barrel for an average guy sitting there when I have been trying to figure the exact same barrel out in recent weeks.  I mean seriously, what the hell are the odds....

Sorry for the life story, still processing, but are these barrels worth a shit?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49954325752_e6636bfd3d_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49953542133_8910d8ea46_c.jpg

I have a non-clone gun equipped with a White Oak SPR, its not a bad barrel, but I can say with certainty, you'll be much happier with the HCS

I'm inclined to agree. Have the WOA in my Mk 12, and I have not been impressed. Handloads for 77gr TMKs with both TAC and CFE 223 have at best given me around 1 MOA at an underpowered load.

All loads approaching Mk 262 velocity are about 2 MOA.
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 12:48:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:

I'm inclined to agree. Have the WOA in my Mk 12, and I have not been impressed. Handloads for 77gr TMKs with both TAC and CFE 223 have at best given me around 1 MOA at an underpowered load.

All loads approaching Mk 262 velocity are about 2 MOA.
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Yeah, gets the job done and very acceptable accuracy for the price, but the douglas is the one you'll want.

I have an HCS on the Mod 1, and CLE on the Mod 0, both shoot great. Mod 0 I'm getting less than inch groupings at 100 (before switching to a Mildot) and HCS is doing about the same. Both shooting Fiocchi 77gr SMK. Shot a little less accurate with 77gr Razer Core IMI
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 3:36:49 AM EDT
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This thread needs more Mod 1.

Funny how an old A1 stock can become an entire rifle.....

HCS upper, Brownells A1 lower, Geissele SSA, Leupold 67925

Going for a USMC specific clone, so no paint.  A few non clone correct pieces for right now but it's about done (lever stop #22, short collar, etc)









And the inspiration:




Link Posted: 5/31/2020 8:43:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By coejro:
This thread needs more Mod 1.

Funny how an old A1 stock can become an entire rifle.....

HCS upper, Brownells A1 lower, Geissele SSA, Leupold 67925

Going for a USMC specific clone, so no paint.  A few non clone correct pieces for right now but it's about done (lever stop #22, short collar, etc)

https://i.imgur.com/1cFMlxz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Qo1Lt88.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QRON4wc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/A1kHHTk.jpg

And the inspiration:
https://i.imgur.com/Cr4ya1m.jpg


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Looks nice!
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 8:54:07 AM EDT
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Thanks for the reply gents!
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 9:35:18 AM EDT
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Agree.  More mod 1's.

Really debating getting a b5 precision stock and throwing it on here, especially after seeing KAC throw it on m110's for trials

Link Posted: 5/31/2020 5:31:34 PM EDT
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SPR Sunday.


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that is a beautiful rifle
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