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12/16/2025 1:27:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By medieval_flail:

So Surefire has a contract to keep supplying RC1s to SOCOM?
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Socom has shelves and shelves of them, and they don't wear out quickly.
12/16/2025 1:36:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#2]
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:



Socom has shelves and shelves of them, and they don't wear out quickly.
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And when they do they can just have surefire recore them

ETA: I have seen the odd RC2 floating around as well though. Not sure if that’s personal purchase or what.
12/22/2025 1:58:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Someone can tell me why the DSL ( Durable Solid Lubricant) is not used on the URGI and the M4 please ? :

https://soldiersystems.net/2016/02/17/picatinny-arsenel-engineers-work-with-new-durable-solid-lubricant/

12/22/2025 4:39:34 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By Pitou:
Someone can tell me why the DSL ( Durable Solid Lubricant) is not used on the URGI and the M4 please ? :

https://soldiersystems.net/2016/02/17/picatinny-arsenel-engineers-work-with-new-durable-solid-lubricant/

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12/25/2025 12:23:09 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
Id imagine a URGI 14.5 upper on a new LMT MARS abmi lower would be the shit.  Like a "you're can only have one" rifle
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I have one of my not so clone URGIs set up like that.

LMT is a better lower than my Colt and Colt 80% clone lowers. Just not clone correct


12/25/2025 12:34:15 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By Pitou:
Someone can tell me why the DSL ( Durable Solid Lubricant) is not used on the URGI and the M4 please ? :

https://soldiersystems.net/2016/02/17/picatinny-arsenel-engineers-work-with-new-durable-solid-lubricant/

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New durable coating that requires no to little lubricant?

At least until Privates use a green scratch pad on it.

Curious how good this new finish will work.
12/26/2025 12:23:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet:
New durable coating that requires no to little lubricant?

At least until Privates use a green scratch pad on it.

Curious how good this new finish will work.
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet:
Originally Posted By Pitou:
Someone can tell me why the DSL ( Durable Solid Lubricant) is not used on the URGI and the M4 please ? :

https://soldiersystems.net/2016/02/17/picatinny-arsenel-engineers-work-with-new-durable-solid-lubricant/

New durable coating that requires no to little lubricant?

At least until Privates use a green scratch pad on it.

Curious how good this new finish will work.


“plan to transition the technology to PM Soldier Weapons by 2017.”
-Soldier Systems

That article was posted 2016. I wouldn’t exactly call DSL a new thing. The whole stated point was to eliminate the need to use CLP to lube your weapon, but that’s neglecting that you’ll need to use CLP to clean it anyways. DSL is really doing nothing for you since there will already be lube in your weapon everytime you clean it. No wonder it’s not being used.
12/27/2025 5:35:22 PM EDT
[#8]
I use CLP and others to clean and lubricate my Geissele  BCG.

But the Nanoweapon  coating (similar to DSL) is very easy to clean.
1/1/2026 10:41:03 PM EDT
[#9]
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Can't believe I am in here.....

You are the man to ask. If I was gonna build a marsoc URGI with an Atacr, what's the mount and height that they run?
1/2/2026 10:12:43 AM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By Pitou:
I use CLP and others to clean and lubricate my Geissele  BCG.

But the Nanoweapon  coating (similar to DSL) is very easy to clean.
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Only time I do not lubricate URG/URGIs with CLP is when temperature is too low and then it gets LAW (Lubricate Arctic Weapon)
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1/2/2026 8:55:17 PM EDT
[#11]
Anyone have some insight into when we might start seeing SF or RR getting the DAGIR V1? I know there was a post a few pages back with some navy personnel using them, and I believe someone said the V1 is going to SOCOM while the V2 goes to JSOC? The DAGIR has an official designation of LA-30 SAL-UHP and NSN 5855-01-724-3043. Will these be replacing the LA-23 NGAL?
1/5/2026 11:29:46 PM EDT
[#12]
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1/6/2026 12:51:23 AM EDT
[#13]
I really wish ARFCOM had a "Like" feature for posts like some forums. Lots of great information and photos in this thread. Some noise too, but that's to be expected. lol
1/6/2026 1:28:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AggiePhil:
I really wish ARFCOM had a "Like" feature for posts like some forums. Lots of great information and photos in this thread. Some noise too, but that's to be expected. lol
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Strongly agree.

1/7/2026 2:57:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DDS87][Edited] [#15]
I used my Garmin Xero to get some data from my friend's 14.5" URG-I + Mini2 shooting X-Tac 55gr, in central AZ at about 4600ft elevation and 55F, 13 shots:

Average FPS: 3023.8
Spread: 84.4
Std Dev: 27.0

1/7/2026 7:02:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#16]
3rd group URGI with sf closed tine

ETA these pics are from 2021

1/8/2026 4:28:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Posting in multiple threads to get a better chance of getting an answer.

Have any units been issued the Surefire SOCOM RC2 suppressor?
1/8/2026 5:03:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dittoroad][Edited] [#18]
Is a square forge BAFE upper is 100% clone correct or at least likely to exist in service? No cage code or stamped/raised C on my upper I’d like to use. Can anyone confirm with a photo that an upper with only a BAFE square forge mark is in service? Thank you in advance.
1/8/2026 6:07:42 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:



Can't believe I am in here.....

You are the man to ask. If I was gonna build a marsoc URGI with an Atacr, what's the mount and height that they run?
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Just the standard contract 1.54" Ultramount that comes with the S-VPS kit for the most part.
1/8/2026 9:34:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#20]
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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Posting in multiple threads to get a better chance of getting an answer.

Have any units been issued the Surefire SOCOM RC2 suppressor?
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A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

1/8/2026 9:51:59 PM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:

A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

https://imageshack.com/i/pndnwcBAj
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QD insert!
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1/8/2026 9:53:20 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:

A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

https://imageshack.com/i/pndnwcBAj
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The 10.3 indicates this is afsoc, which have been seen with the rc2 before
1/8/2026 10:06:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:


The 10.3 indicates this is afsoc, which have been seen with the rc2 before
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Interesting that the 14.5 has a ranger contract Razor/mount combo too.  An AFSOC attachment maybe?  Just interesting to see both things in one place given they are specific to different units.
1/8/2026 10:12:33 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By india13c:


Interesting that the 14.5 has a ranger contract Razor/mount combo too.  An AFSOC attachment maybe?  Just interesting to see both things in one place given they are specific to different units.
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Not all that surprising being that anyone can buy the ranger contract razor now.

Afsoc guns always have those weird little oddities you don’t see anywhere else
1/8/2026 10:19:28 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:


Not all that surprising being that anyone can buy the ranger contract razor now.

Afsoc guns always have those weird little oddities you don’t see anywhere else
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Good point, I already forgot about that.
1/9/2026 1:01:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#26]
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:


The 10.3 indicates this is afsoc, which have been seen with the rc2 before
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Take another look, that’s an 11.5” not a 10.3”
I think this is actually SF

ETA that’s also a colt upper not geissele

ETA 2 that matech also makes me think army

ETA 3 (sorry) coast guard is also issued RC2
1/9/2026 6:54:37 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By india13c:


Interesting that the 14.5 has a ranger contract Razor/mount combo too.  An AFSOC attachment maybe?  Just interesting to see both things in one place given they are specific to different units.
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I’ve seen rangers using 10.3” URGIs granted they were personal purchase. I’ve also seen rangers using both issued and personal purchase huxwrx flow 556k, both those thing used to be typical indicators of AFSOC but that’s not a reliable metric for judgement anymore. Here’s some examples, I know the last pic isn’t a 556k but still a huxwrx flow can.

1/12/2026 12:11:25 AM EDT
[#28]
Are most cloners running $4,000 real NGALs or $400 airsoft clones? If the clones, which brand(s) do we like the most?
1/12/2026 1:58:26 AM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By AggiePhil:
Are most cloners running $4,000 real NGALs or $400 airsoft clones? If the clones, which brand(s) do we like the most?
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Potted Samogear for airsoft clone stuff.
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1/12/2026 2:53:15 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Only time I do not lubricate URG/URGIs with CLP is when temperature is too low and then it gets LAW (Lubricate Arctic Weapon)
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Thanks for answer
1/12/2026 10:04:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ronin_98][Edited] [#31]


Neat CG MSRT 11.5 with a QD handguard
1/12/2026 10:20:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#32]
Nice, I wonder what percent of CG stuff is COTS vs contract specified. On one hand you see them all with ngals and the trij mro is pretty popular which certainly wouldn’t be my first choice if I had the option, but on the other hand they’re DHS, not DOD (DOW ) so surely they don’t have access to the same USASOC/ wider SOCOM URGI contract
1/13/2026 11:36:49 PM EDT
[#33]
it's over
1/14/2026 2:12:59 AM EDT
[#34]
With the amount of pics that are coming out like this at this point it’s the cadre’s and the 18z faults for not correcting these guys.
1/14/2026 8:00:47 AM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By Ronin_98:
https://imgur.com/zNxHeS9

Neat CG MSRT 11.5 with a QD handguard
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1/14/2026 3:47:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:
With the amount of pics that are coming out like this at this point it’s the cadre’s and the 18z faults for not correcting these guys.
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One thing I'll mention is that that head forward position on long eye relief LPVOs like the Razor does cause scope shadow especially on 1x. I have to adjust my cheek weld to it vs what I do for something like an ACOG or Elcan.
1/14/2026 4:33:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8][Edited] [#37]
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:

A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

https://imageshack.com/i/pndnwcBAj
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I think this dude was outed on reddit as possible fake/airsoft/ or personal items he added due to a clearly alex pelc repaired LA5 in the pic.
1/14/2026 5:09:55 PM EDT
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Yeah apparently the imgur link was removed and I'm not jumping through more hoops just to upload an image of a QD socket rail lol
1/14/2026 7:07:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:


I think this dude was outed on reddit as possible fake/airsoft/ or personal items he added due to a clearly alex pelc repaired LA5 in the pic.
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:

A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

https://imageshack.com/i/pndnwcBAj


I think this dude was outed on reddit as possible fake/airsoft/ or personal items he added due to a clearly alex pelc repaired LA5 in the pic.


Most of the stuff looks too new when you really look at it.
1/14/2026 8:18:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#40]
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:


Most of the stuff looks too new when you really look at it.
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:

A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

https://imageshack.com/i/pndnwcBAj


I think this dude was outed on reddit as possible fake/airsoft/ or personal items he added due to a clearly alex pelc repaired LA5 in the pic.


Most of the stuff looks too new when you really look at it.


Who’s Alex pelc? What are the giveaways on the la5? What about the lower? I get there’s a lot of personal purchase stuff on that but that doesn’t explain the third pin.

ETA: I saw the Reddit post before it was taken down and he put up a pic of the inside of the lower, and there was an m4a1 fcg in there so the pin isn’t just engraved on the outside of the lower.
1/14/2026 8:24:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SecretSquirell][Edited] [#41]
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:


Who’s Alex pelc? What are the giveaways on the la5? What about the lower? I get there’s a lot of personal purchase stuff on that but that doesn’t explain the third pin.
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:

A few interesting things going on here besides the rc2, which I can’t confirm if that’s issued or personal purchase

https://imageshack.com/i/pndnwcBAj


I think this dude was outed on reddit as possible fake/airsoft/ or personal items he added due to a clearly alex pelc repaired LA5 in the pic.


Most of the stuff looks too new when you really look at it.


Who’s Alex pelc? What are the giveaways on the la5? What about the lower? I get there’s a lot of personal purchase stuff on that but that doesn’t explain the third pin.

It's not hard to fake a pin. You edited while I was posting.

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1/14/2026 9:19:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:


Who's Alex pelc? What are the giveaways on the la5? What about the lower? I get there's a lot of personal purchase stuff on that but that doesn't explain the third pin.

ETA: I saw the Reddit post before it was taken down and he put up a pic of the inside of the lower, and there was an m4a1 fcg in there so the pin isn't just engraved on the outside of the lower.
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1/14/2026 9:31:47 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Polishsupremacist on instagram, he can repair full power/surplus/grey market lasers and other stuff. Actually just had him fix an SU-231 I had where the reflector came unglued and bricked it, he had it repaired and shipped within a day of it arriving
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Ah I know him, I had him fix an su230 for me once, didn’t know that was his name tho
2/7/2026 11:00:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlueDevilBrew:


Strongly agree.

https://i.postimg.cc/N0DYLgNn/DSC-3120.jpg
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How did you get the G33 to line up with the T2. With no spacer plate on the mount it’s too low, with the EOTech spacer plate it’s too high.
2/7/2026 12:00:23 PM EDT
[#45]
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Originally Posted By TNRunner99:


How did you get the G33 to line up with the T2. With no spacer plate on the mount it’s too low, with the EOTech spacer plate it’s too high.
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It lines up close enough. I have the same setup on my patrol rifle.
2/7/2026 1:49:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNRunner99][Edited] [#46]
T2/LaRue with G33

It sitting just a bit high bugged me.
2/8/2026 12:42:33 PM EDT
[#47]
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2/8/2026 3:18:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77gr_pierrot][Edited] [#48]
Lot of DVOs in that video. I’ve seen a few pics in this thread where there’s a bunch of uppers with DVOs on them too. Is it being mass issued? Or are only some ODAs receiving them?
2/8/2026 3:54:31 PM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:
Lot of DVOs in that video. I’ve seen a few pics in this thread where there’s a bunch of uppers with DVOs on them too. Is it being mass issued? Or are only some ODAs receiving them?
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DVOs?
2/8/2026 4:01:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AggiePhil:

DVOs?
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Originally Posted By AggiePhil:
Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot:
Lot of DVOs in that video. I’ve seen a few pics in this thread where there’s a bunch of uppers with DVOs on them too. Is it being mass issued? Or are only some ODAs receiving them?

DVOs?

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