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Originally Posted By WTFShane: Not DD? My assumption was the kit being 07-077-07308 with a gas tube and pin, which (in my opinion) should come standard with most barrels. I was building my upper and got bummed out when I found out I needed a gas tube. Not only did I need a gas tube, but for the 11.5" I had to bend my own, a standard carbine tube didnt clear the barrel nut. |
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Originally Posted By WTFShane: Looks fine to me. Or is this about the lack of recent posts and content? Originally Posted By WTFShane: Originally Posted By medieval_flail: This thread is seriously broken Looks fine to me. Or is this about the lack of recent posts and content? Works for 2 days, breaks for 5. Not sure it affects everyone. It'll "show" me there's activity in the thread, but I can't view anything sometimes. |
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Afternoon Gents, sorry if this has already been asked, I know the SSF trigger GTG for URGIs, but have any other Geissele triggers been approved/seen in the wild? I am partial to the SD-E Geissele trigger and would like to run that instead. If not, I can live with it not being 100% correct cause the lower receiver ain't correct either, but I thought I should ask. |
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Originally Posted By RDF_Actual: Afternoon Gents, sorry if this has already been asked, I know the SSF trigger GTG for URGIs, but have any other Geissele triggers been approved/seen in the wild? I am partial to the SD-E Geissele trigger and would like to run that instead. If not, I can live with it not being 100% correct cause the lower receiver ain't correct either, but I thought I should ask. |
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Originally Posted By THEdtw: Works for 2 days, breaks for 5. Not sure it affects everyone. It'll "show" me there's activity in the thread, but I can't view anything sometimes. Originally Posted By THEdtw: Originally Posted By WTFShane: Originally Posted By medieval_flail: This thread is seriously broken Looks fine to me. Or is this about the lack of recent posts and content? Works for 2 days, breaks for 5. Not sure it affects everyone. It'll "show" me there's activity in the thread, but I can't view anything sometimes. There were some people who wanted to discuss non-URGI topics and things got deleted. Now when the thread hits a new page, it takes a few posts for it to actually shift over to the new page. It's a great URGI thread. I'm up in the air about getting another URGI or grabbing an SPR. |
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Originally Posted By 1AEGW: There were some people who wanted to discuss non-URGI topics and things got deleted. Now when the thread hits a new page, it takes a few posts for it to actually shift over to the new page. It's a great URGI thread. I'm up in the air about getting another URGI or grabbing an SPR. Originally Posted By 1AEGW: Originally Posted By THEdtw: Originally Posted By WTFShane: Originally Posted By medieval_flail: This thread is seriously broken Looks fine to me. Or is this about the lack of recent posts and content? Works for 2 days, breaks for 5. Not sure it affects everyone. It'll "show" me there's activity in the thread, but I can't view anything sometimes. There were some people who wanted to discuss non-URGI topics and things got deleted. Now when the thread hits a new page, it takes a few posts for it to actually shift over to the new page. It's a great URGI thread. I'm up in the air about getting another URGI or grabbing an SPR. Both |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Both Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By 1AEGW: Originally Posted By THEdtw: Originally Posted By WTFShane: Originally Posted By medieval_flail: This thread is seriously broken Looks fine to me. Or is this about the lack of recent posts and content? Works for 2 days, breaks for 5. Not sure it affects everyone. It'll "show" me there's activity in the thread, but I can't view anything sometimes. There were some people who wanted to discuss non-URGI topics and things got deleted. Now when the thread hits a new page, it takes a few posts for it to actually shift over to the new page. It's a great URGI thread. I'm up in the air about getting another URGI or grabbing an SPR. Both Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 1AEGW: There were some people who wanted to discuss non-URGI topics and things got deleted. Now when the thread hits a new page, it takes a few posts for it to actually shift over to the new page. It's a great URGI thread. I'm up in the air about getting another URGI or grabbing an SPR. Next upper will be a URGI inspired SPR using a MK16 G rail and the G 18" SPR barrel. Doesn't fit either clone thread, but I feel its where a SPR would be today if the concept was new and warranted. |
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Originally Posted By RDF_Actual: Afternoon Gents, sorry if this has already been asked, I know the SSF trigger GTG for URGIs, but have any other Geissele triggers been approved/seen in the wild? I am partial to the SD-E Geissele trigger and would like to run that instead. If not, I can live with it not being 100% correct cause the lower receiver ain't correct either, but I thought I should ask. We used to have SSA triggers available for the Mk11 and Mk12s back in 2014 but SOCOM stopped buying them. Only triggers I get for URGIs are SSF or stock USGI auto. CD |
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Originally Posted By WTFShane: What makes the SPR special? Put a decent optic on the URGI and it does the role. Because the SPR was a specific rifle issued during a specific time frame during specific events. Yes, you can build a rifle for the same task with today's components but it's not a SPR. While the URGI is a free floated rail, it doesn't use a match barrel. URGI will have acceptable accuracy but not exceptional accuracy. You have to remember that the SPR was designed as a semi auto sniper rifle as we didn't have enough 7.62 semi auto sniper rifles then. Many of us snipers dislike the M24 and wanted our M21s back and not enough SR25s available. Steve Holland and I discussed this numerous times in the 90s before we worked on the SPR. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Because the SPR was a specific rifle issued during a specific time frame during specific events. Yes, you can build a rifle for the same task with today's components but it's not a SPR. While the URGI is a free floated rail, it doesn't use a match barrel. URGI will have acceptable accuracy but not exceptional accuracy. You have to remember that the SPR was designed as a semi auto sniper rifle as we didn't have enough 7.62 semi auto sniper rifles then. Many of us snipers dislike the M24 and wanted our M21s back and not enough SR25s available. Steve Holland and I discussed this numerous times in the 90s before we worked on the SPR. It was a rhetorical question to the couple of posts prior to mine, but I appreciate your answer. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: We used to have SSA triggers available for the Mk11 and Mk12s back in 2014 but SOCOM stopped buying them. Only triggers I get for URGIs are SSF or stock USGI auto. CD Thanks for the input! I may try out the SSA, but I really prefer the SDE so I may just say screw it and be slightly off on the clone. Appreciate it. Interesting that they bought into SSA-E triggers, I would have thought that would have been the move. |
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Originally Posted By THEdtw: Works for 2 days, breaks for 5. Not sure it affects everyone. It'll "show" me there's activity in the thread, but I can't view anything sometimes. I have that happen often where whatever the newest page number is looks blank/broken with no posts but I realized if I just go back one page, everything's at the bottom. |
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Originally Posted By RDF_Actual: Thanks for the input! I may try out the SSA, but I really prefer the SDE so I may just say screw it and be slightly off on the clone. Appreciate it. Interesting that they bought into SSA-E triggers, I would have thought that would have been the move. SSA not SSA-E. Again they were for semi Mk11/12s. SSA is just the semi verison of the auto SSF. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: SSA not SSA-E. Again they were for semi Mk11/12s. SSA is just the semi verison of the auto SSF. Sorry that was a mis-type. I meant to say. I wonder why they didn’t go the route of SSA-E triggers but if the SSA is the semi auto version of the SSF then that makes sense why they would stick to it |
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Originally Posted By mmmboats: Anyone heard of or seen LaRue LT-104's or SPR 1.93 mounts used in the wild? I feel like I saw a couple over the years on block II's but can't remember if I've seen them on URGI's. Since I can't post an image directly https://imgur.com/a/0QBaxMj |
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If anyone is struggling to figure out what to do with their 14.5” and haven’t tried the LPVO/dot combo I really think you should. Got this upper in like 2020 and ran it on patrol for like a year before I finished my MK18. Found myself constantly changing optics but it just kinda didn’t do it for me. Used it as a loaner for a bunch of rifle classes and used it to let the students fire full auto to save the barrel on their uppers and my MK18. Didnt care about it. Finally after like 3 years of accumulation of parts I slapped a Badger, the Razor 1-10 on it + the Acro and my first reaction before I shot it was that I wasted a lot of money. But once I ran a bore snake down it and zeroed it in expecting a mess… the thing stacked the rounds at the 50 like it did the day I first got it 5 years ago. I really do think this is the way to set these guns up. I know everyone has an opinion but I say it from professional experience and extensive use. It was tortured for a few years and it has never had one single malfunction. Every student who shot the rifle operator course with this upper (from zero experience) were the first one’s zeroed and had no issues. The reliability has been perfect and no broken parts. It took less getting used to use the Acro on top of the Badger than it took for me to adjust to an Eotech Unity Riser. This is my second time out shooting 200 yards probably in like 6 years (we’re all ways 100 and in) and my second time using this package. Figured i’d keep the thread alive a bit. Im just very impressed and I find myself never fully satisfied with setups. Ive had every other optic combo you can think of on this and I think this is it. Rock solid platform, reliable, insanely accurate, and balanced incredibly well size and weight wise combined with the LPVO. Couple groups with different ammo (64,68,69,77) at 200 in pics below. Didnt label them. Honorable mention to the colt barrel in the MK18 For shooting a group like that at 200 yards. I was almost certain id be shopping for a barrel for both guns soon but guess not.           l] |
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Originally Posted By methical20: "Sons of Liberty Gun Works Awarded USSOCOM Contract for MK1 Rifle" Does that mean that it is replacing the URG-I? https://soldiersystems.net/2025/11/20/sons-of-liberty-gun-works-awarded-ussocom-contract-for-mk1-rifle/ Heard DEVGRU too. SOLGW |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: https://imgur.com/a/0QBaxMj I remember that picture as I took it in my shop in Astan. Don't see many Mk13 GL at all and is why I took the photo. Hahaha that's amazing. What goes around comes around. Thanks for all your insight and knowledge in these threads. |
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Originally Posted By Roadblock: Eh, I've gotten used to it. Everything is always one page back so I guess I gave up caring. That's when you look at the last post number to know. |
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Originally Posted By McCarron: Does anyone have any “in the wild” URGI ACOG or NX8 1-8 photos? Going through this thread I believe I’ve seen one or maybe two with an ACOG. Howdy, We had TA01s in the armory and I used one with an offset dot. Another guy used a TA01 too. Shoot me a pm and I’ll look for a picture for you. |
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Originally Posted By HD2006: Went back to the T2 on my 11.5". Way lighter then the Razor 1-6. I'll stick to the LPVO (ATACR 1-8) on my 14.5. Added the KAC 99051 front and used the built in rear sight on the Unity mount. I may pick up a magnifier but I never seem to keep those so we'll see if I do. https://i.imgur.com/oUW7wW7.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/Xx9RySa.jpeg Love that setup. What sling mount is that on the Sopmod stock? |
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Originally Posted By TNRunner99: Love that setup. What sling mount is that on the Sopmod stock? Originally Posted By TNRunner99: Originally Posted By HD2006: Went back to the T2 on my 11.5". Way lighter then the Razor 1-6. I'll stick to the LPVO (ATACR 1-8) on my 14.5. Added the KAC 99051 front and used the built in rear sight on the Unity mount. I may pick up a magnifier but I never seem to keep those so we'll see if I do. https://i.imgur.com/oUW7wW7.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/Xx9RySa.jpeg Love that setup. What sling mount is that on the Sopmod stock? Either KAC or PRI. https://www.precisionreflex.com/lowers-lower-parts/2187-butt-stock-sling-mount-adapter.html |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Either KAC or PRI. https://www.precisionreflex.com/lowers-lower-parts/2187-butt-stock-sling-mount-adapter.html Ah, I didn’t know PRI made one. |
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Originally Posted By Jobob182: That’s my problem with the 660, the eotech magnifier I have Doesn’t line up. It’s “useable” but looks off. The 1.54 scalar works lines up nicely I might Give the unity a try if I can Find it used cheap but I think I’m sticking with the scalar works for now. Anyone ever have any issues with them? It seems solid but I get The impression the LT660 can take a bomb going off for it to fail Pic just because https://i.postimg.cc/K8mqbVZF/IMG-7171.jpg Do you mean 1.57 scalar works LEAP/16 eotech mount? I'm thinking of running that with a G45, I know it's not clone correct but nothing else lines up with the LT660 like you said. |
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot: https://youtu.be/blNiJDwcUVo?si=pd2Ux_dFLf4_8kTC 28:10 according to GT current socom URGIs are complete geissele and no longer have DD/ Colt components. Can anyone confirm this? Is he just incorrect? GT is notoriously wrong alot about clone details. That video is also a paid commercial for G. But i did come here to see if there was any truth to that claim also, as i haven't been paying much attention to the thread lately. So interested to hear from CD on this |
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Originally Posted By oneofus: GT is notoriously wrong alot about clone details. That video is also a paid commercial for G. But i did come here to see if there was any truth to that claim also, as i haven't been paying much attention to the thread lately. So interested to hear from CD on this Originally Posted By oneofus: Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot: https://youtu.be/blNiJDwcUVo?si=pd2Ux_dFLf4_8kTC 28:10 according to GT current socom URGIs are complete geissele and no longer have DD/ Colt components. Can anyone confirm this? Is he just incorrect? GT is notoriously wrong alot about clone details. That video is also a paid commercial for G. But i did come here to see if there was any truth to that claim also, as i haven't been paying much attention to the thread lately. So interested to hear from CD on this They still aren't all Geissele. |
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Originally Posted By oneofus: GT is notoriously wrong alot about clone details. That video is also a paid commercial for G. But i did come here to see if there was any truth to that claim also, as i haven't been paying much attention to the thread lately. So interested to hear from CD on this You can tell in that part of the video when John is talking about what he doesnt like about the Geissele issued uppers (his experience) that GT was staring at him like "god damnit you're ruining the video with your negative talk". So he goes "Yeah, well those early uppers werent all geissele parts and had DD barrels...." to save the puff piece. I'm obvi kinda joking because I know they can edit that out of they want to; but he was def making a face 
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Originally Posted By 77gr_pierrot: https://youtu.be/blNiJDwcUVo?si=pd2Ux_dFLf4_8kTC 28:10 according to GT current socom URGIs are complete geissele and no longer have DD/ Colt components. Can anyone confirm this? Is he just incorrect? Rumors, but no pics have ever surfaced. However, COTS Super Duty uppers have been seen in the wild. Garand Thumb cringe aside, I own both a 14.5 and 11.5 near clone upper and they're pretty good. More than enough for 99% of civilian shooters. |
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