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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:48:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerForged:
 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HammerForged:
Originally Posted By samuse:
Maybe they wanted something as bad-ass as their Eotechs? |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2019 12:52:09 AM EDT
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A lot of drama surrounding this upper, but I am quite happy so far. It started with an Eotech EXPS and G33, but it was just too clunky. I am really enjoying the Scalarworks sights and T2 setup. |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2019 1:47:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Tried something different today. 10x magnification. Not super impressed with the barrel so far... Need to get it on bags. Leaning towards converting it to a NSW Recce 
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Posted: 1/12/2019 3:09:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Well it did lead to an Improved product that USASOC is still buying and using.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2019 2:56:29 PM EDT
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Carolina Laser Works finishing touch on the lower
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Posted: 1/12/2019 4:14:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FDEinAZ:
Carolina Laser Works finishing touch on the lower https://i.postimg.cc/9MBHK170/URGI-Edit.jpg 
CLW does nice work and they are only 30 mins away. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2019 6:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Nice, now just need a Can, laser and light and she will be perfect
CLW does nice work and they are only 30 mins away.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2019 8:24:41 PM EDT
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I just got my near clone URGI. I got the LMT lower off the EE here.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2019 8:41:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArticWhiteGL:
I just got my near clone URGI. I got the LMT lower off the EE here. http://i.imgur.com/KPApZmS.jpg |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2019 9:33:46 PM EDT
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Ive got a 10.3 urgi on a lmt defender 2000 lower and the fitment on mine is very snug
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 12:26:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brx123:
Ive got a 10.3 urgi on a lmt defender 2000 lower and the fitment on mine is very snug |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 5:16:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goldwinggoat: How is the lock-up between the upper and lower receivers? I have the URGI near clone matched to a Colt lower and it is quite wobbly. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 1:46:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wake27]
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Mine was super tight on my Noveske. Colt's tend to not have the best fit and finish.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 4:02:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
What were you expecting? Last group I shot was 1.5inch at 100yd using non magnified EOTech. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Tried something different today. 10x magnification. Not super impressed with the barrel so far... Need to get it on bags. Leaning towards converting it to a NSW Recce
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2019 4:42:37 PM EDT
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No wobbly at all. My Colt and Smith and Wesson rifles, that I bought as complete rifles, have trace wobble. I put a Accuwedge on the Colt and no more wobble. I put a small rubble washer on the rear as below. Not my rifle:
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Posted: 1/14/2019 6:01:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#17]
The grail URG-I
(not mine) 
 
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Posted: 1/14/2019 7:21:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: C6H12O6]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
The grail URG-I (not mine) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/4BDC973E-15C7-4E04-90CF-F37AA7FE94D7-807989.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/AD0D86AE-825D-435E-9A8D-A14E6E50EC14-807990.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/35E4BF41-4AA7-4466-83B1-CC860D604EF1-807988.jpg I wish they sold lowers. Mods I’d do w/ replacements in parentheses: Sell upper receiver (Colt cage code) Sell buffer tube (Colt 4-position) Sell stock (B5 coyote SOPMOD) Sell grip (KAC taupe A2) Sell trigger guard (Colt standard w/ Ergo gapper) Sell bolt catch (Colt standard) Sell Sell selector (Colt ambi full auto) Cerakote black the lower New M4A1 UID label from Carolina Laser Works Add a Vortex Razor |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 7:52:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6: Cool I wish they sold lowers. Mods I'd do w/ replacements in parentheses: Sell upper receiver (Colt cage code) Sell buffer tube (Colt 4-position) Sell stock (B5 coyote SOPMOD) Sell grip (KAC taupe A2) Sell trigger guard (Colt standard w/ Ergo gapper) Sell bolt catch (Colt standard) Sell Sell selector (Colt ambi full auto) Cerakote black the lower New M4A1 UID label from Carolina Laser Works Add a Vortex Razor
It's in the EE now for $7500. Its GS5414's personal URG-I |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 7:53:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Its in the EE now for $7500 
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Posted: 1/14/2019 7:58:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Its in the EE now for $7500
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Posted: 1/14/2019 8:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
me too
It's in the EE now for $7500. Its GS5414's personal URG-I Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By C6H12O6: Cool I wish they sold lowers. Mods I'd do w/ replacements in parentheses: Sell upper receiver (Colt cage code) Sell buffer tube (Colt 4-position) Sell stock (B5 coyote SOPMOD) Sell grip (KAC taupe A2) Sell trigger guard (Colt standard w/ Ergo gapper) Sell bolt catch (Colt standard) Sell Sell selector (Colt ambi full auto) Cerakote black the lower New M4A1 UID label from Carolina Laser Works Add a Vortex Razor
It's in the EE now for $7500. Its GS5414's personal URG-I |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 8:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984: That would be a nice addition to the collection for a multitude of reasons, but that sort of money basically buys me WP binos. Plus, I'm hoping that given some time all (or at least most of) the specialty stuff gets to market. |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 8:49:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dlm1984]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Do you think Geissele will ever sell DDC lowers? seems like that would be a big seller. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By dlm1984: That would be a nice addition to the collection for a multitude of reasons, but that sort of money basically buys me WP binos. Plus, I'm hoping that given some time all (or at least most of) the specialty stuff gets to market. A slightly tweaked forged lower seems a bit more likely to me, but I expect that LE rifles will keep them busy for a while. Then maybe they'd sell complete rifles to the civilian market. After that, I could see components, like lowers, becoming available, but I'm sure not going to hold my breath. We'll see what tomorrow's announcements hold...historically, Bill has shared a good bit of information about what's coming down the road, so I/we might be surprised. I still love Joy, but that hasn't made it to market yet and he'd originally mentioned it should be available this past summer, so...time tables can (and do) change. |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 10:29:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2019 10:33:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vtm204]
[#26]
Finally got the opportunity to shoot my 10.3" URG-I near clone. I wish I didn't have to say this but I was having issues. I would shoot 2-3 rounds and then it would fail to feed the next round. OR I would shoot 2-3 rounds and it would fail to eject the spent casing. I admit that I was using a Spike's T2 buffer and a mil-spec spring with Gen 2 PMAG. Didn't have the Geissele Super 42 spring and weight (H3) that came with it to try swapping out. Has me skeptical for the Dead Air can that I am waiting on too...
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Posted: 1/14/2019 10:55:14 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtm204:
Finally got the opportunity to shoot my 10.3" URG-I near clone. I wish I didn't have to say this but I was having issues. I would shoot 2-3 rounds and then it would fail to feed the next round. OR I would shoot 2-3 rounds and it would fail to eject the spent casing. I admit that I was using a Spike's T2 buffer and a mil-spec spring with Gen 2 PMAG. Didn't have the Geissele Super 42 spring and weight (H3) that came with it to try swapping out. Has me skeptical for the Dead Air can that I am waiting on too... |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 11:29:27 PM EDT
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Was hoping 1 moa. Didn’t achieve it, and this was with 10x magnification. My Colt SOCOM could.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TEXASGUNGUY022003:
People do realize this is still the DD 14.5" barrel correct? Not some Douglas or crazy match barrel with .75 MOA accuracy? IT sounds like people bought it expecting 1MOA groups at 1k yards with an Eotech.....SMH Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TEXASGUNGUY022003:
Originally Posted By WTFShane:
Originally Posted By 56cbr600rr:
Tried something different today. 10x magnification. Not super impressed with the barrel so far... Need to get it on bags. Leaning towards converting it to a NSW Recce
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/blklexus74/4B9FCEE4-37AA-45EC-B92F-3746760E6170.jpg |
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Posted: 1/14/2019 11:41:03 PM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2019 12:03:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtm204:
Finally got the opportunity to shoot my 10.3" URG-I near clone. I wish I didn't have to say this but I was having issues. I would shoot 2-3 rounds and then it would fail to feed the next round. OR I would shoot 2-3 rounds and it would fail to eject the spent casing. I admit that I was using a Spike's T2 buffer and a mil-spec spring with Gen 2 PMAG. Didn't have the Geissele Super 42 spring and weight (H3) that came with it to try swapping out. Has me skeptical for the Dead Air can that I am waiting on too... |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wake27: I remember hearing about several issues with Spikes buffers. Swap that for a real one before anything else. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2019 1:35:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2019 4:03:32 PM EDT
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A GREAT SHOT SESSION!!!
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Posted: 1/15/2019 4:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Militronchi:
A GREAT SHOT SESSION!!! https://i.postimg.cc/YvMMFyJt/20180629-180654.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Y4LnCtb0/20180629-173829.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/MMkscgFD/20180629-173832.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/vxYCBp4K/20180629-173834.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/2qWsXdp0/20180629-173836.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DJdt72ws/20180629-173838.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DmcTTcSD/20180629-180604.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ZC7z9KFx/20180629-180610.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7b4kdRZ0/20180629-180615.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zH807K5H/20180629-180645.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/TKKMnMtM/20180629-180647.jpg
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:33:46 PM EDT
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Well this thread is about to blow up LOL.
Bill just showed Mk16 DDC and ODG complete rifles coming to the civy market on the live stream. Looks like these rails are going to be released outside of mil or clone configs, and will be in wider circulation that ever anticipated. That kind of bums me out since I thought that the Mk16 rails would be in the clone category. Side note that green mk16 complete 10.3 cqbr he showed was super good looking, like wow good looking. |
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Posted: 1/15/2019 11:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Well this thread is about to blow up LOL. Bill just showed Mk16 DDC and ODG complete rifles coming to the civy market on the live stream. Looks like these rails are going to be released outside of mil or clone configs, and will be in wider circulation that ever anticipated. That kind of bums me out since I thought that the Mk16 rails would be in the clone category. Side note that green mk16 complete 10.3 cqbr he showed was super good looking, like wow good looking.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:48:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Silverww]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Well this thread is about to blow up LOL. Bill just showed Mk16 DDC and ODG complete rifles coming to the civy market on the live stream. Looks like these rails are going to be released outside of mil or clone configs, and will be in wider circulation that ever anticipated. That kind of bums me out since I thought that the Mk16 rails would be in the clone category. Side note that green mk16 complete 10.3 cqbr he showed was super good looking, like wow good looking. edit: Is there a thread that discusses what the released, I tired to watch their ig live but they werent actually showing anything due to restrictions on selling guns on ig |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:54:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Silverww:
Is the full rifle ddc or just the rail and CH? edit: Is there a thread that discusses what the released, I tired to watch their ig live but they werent actually showing anything due to restrictions on selling guns on ig 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 2:39:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Silverww:
Is the full rifle ddc or just the rail and CH? edit: Is there a thread that discusses what the released, I tired to watch their ig live but they werent actually showing anything due to restrictions on selling guns on ig  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 2:43:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#40]
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 2:46:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 6:41:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dlm1984]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too. I think the black Friday wording could have been a bit different, but I understood it to mean that some of the colors were once and done and the release with NSN numbered charging handles was once and done. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:58:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984: I don't recall seeing anything about them being exclusive to the URGI? I think the black Friday wording could have been a bit different, but I understood it mean that some of the colors were once and done and the release with NSN numbered charging handles was once and done. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:13:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too. I just don't get the idea of being "exclusive". I want the best gear available. And I welcome companies who even provide the opportunity to own the same gear being fielded by the military because they could've told us to fuck off like a bunch of other companies. No good deed goes unpunished. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:48:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:49:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
I don't get the complaint. There is always the risk of something no longer being exclusive. You buy early, you're paying the premium to be one of the first. You ensure that you have it in hand in case they stop manufacturing it or change. You also run the risk of it being mass produced later on and driving prices down. Just part of the game. KAC had the vault release last year which killed prices on out of production rails and accessories. The Mk16 rail was $395 with the charging handle correct? Call it a $100 charging handle and the rail is under $300. Look at the DD RIS II which was over $400 when it was available. Decade old FF RAS from KAC are still north of $300. I saw value in the package. I just don't get the idea of being "exclusive". I want the best gear available. And I welcome companies who even provide the opportunity to own the same gear being fielded by the military because they could've told us to fuck off like a bunch of other companies. No good deed goes unpunished. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too. I just don't get the idea of being "exclusive". I want the best gear available. And I welcome companies who even provide the opportunity to own the same gear being fielded by the military because they could've told us to fuck off like a bunch of other companies. No good deed goes unpunished. There's those gotta-have-it's fanatics that'll pay premium to have it first. These are the people waiting in line for iphones, google glass (remember that), etc. Once that market is saturated then they offer it up to main stream maybe not in the same package but with something different that doesn't piss off the first group. maybe commercial geissele markings instead of roll marks. Then they come back and offer "retro" versions to recapture the market and gain a second wind. Look at nintendo/kac/etc. The whole concept of limited edition drives sales because people are afraid they can't get something and don't want to pay egregious markup afterwards. That's kind of the whole firearm market at a macro level in essence, which is funny when viewed that way. We're conditioned to think that laws will change any day now so get it while you can before you can't get it anymore. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:18:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By berkeleygiraffe:
It's not quite as basic as marketing 101 but maybe advanced marketing in modern day. There's those gotta-have-it's fanatics that'll pay premium to have it first. These are the people waiting in line for iphones, google glass (remember that), etc. Once that market is saturated then they offer it up to main stream maybe not in the same package but with something different that doesn't piss off the first group. maybe commercial geissele markings instead of roll marks. Then they come back and offer "retro" versions to recapture the market and gain a second wind. Look at nintendo/kac/etc. The whole concept of limited edition drives sales because people are afraid they can't get something and don't want to pay egregious markup afterwards. That's kind of the whole firearm market at a macro level in essence, which is funny when viewed that way. We're conditioned to think that laws will change any day now so get it while you can before you can't get it anymore. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By berkeleygiraffe:
Originally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too. I just don't get the idea of being "exclusive". I want the best gear available. And I welcome companies who even provide the opportunity to own the same gear being fielded by the military because they could've told us to fuck off like a bunch of other companies. No good deed goes unpunished. There's those gotta-have-it's fanatics that'll pay premium to have it first. These are the people waiting in line for iphones, google glass (remember that), etc. Once that market is saturated then they offer it up to main stream maybe not in the same package but with something different that doesn't piss off the first group. maybe commercial geissele markings instead of roll marks. Then they come back and offer "retro" versions to recapture the market and gain a second wind. Look at nintendo/kac/etc. The whole concept of limited edition drives sales because people are afraid they can't get something and don't want to pay egregious markup afterwards. That's kind of the whole firearm market at a macro level in essence, which is funny when viewed that way. We're conditioned to think that laws will change any day now so get it while you can before you can't get it anymore. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:25:03 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slag:
Thing is, it was pushed as exclusive by Bill himself. Yeah, I get the whole "limited" thing to drive sales, but to be honest, I expected more from G... lesson learned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slag:
Originally Posted By berkeleygiraffe:
Originally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
It's funny. The MK16 gets less and less exclusive every day. First it was Black Friday, now they're gonna be offered on complete rifles. Why did Geissele claim at first that they would never be sold independently outside of the clone uppers when they're now everywhere? I bet people that paid a premium for one trusting what Geissele said to he true aren't happy. I'm one of those guys. A week before Black Friday, too. I just don't get the idea of being "exclusive". I want the best gear available. And I welcome companies who even provide the opportunity to own the same gear being fielded by the military because they could've told us to fuck off like a bunch of other companies. No good deed goes unpunished. There's those gotta-have-it's fanatics that'll pay premium to have it first. These are the people waiting in line for iphones, google glass (remember that), etc. Once that market is saturated then they offer it up to main stream maybe not in the same package but with something different that doesn't piss off the first group. maybe commercial geissele markings instead of roll marks. Then they come back and offer "retro" versions to recapture the market and gain a second wind. Look at nintendo/kac/etc. The whole concept of limited edition drives sales because people are afraid they can't get something and don't want to pay egregious markup afterwards. That's kind of the whole firearm market at a macro level in essence, which is funny when viewed that way. We're conditioned to think that laws will change any day now so get it while you can before you can't get it anymore. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slag:
Thing is, it was pushed as exclusive by Bill himself. Yeah, I get the whole "limited" thing to drive sales, but to be honest, I expected more from G... lesson learned. 1. URGI 2. Black Friday sale 3. Complete rifle in the near future I can't fault the man for delivering and offering a product if the demand is there. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:37:06 PM EDT
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His company has to sell stuff, not cater to people who want exclusive items to post on their instagram pages.
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