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7/24/2024 5:26:03 PM EDT
[#1]
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7/25/2024 5:37:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556][Edited] [#2]
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:
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Green is a lightweight barrel and tan is heavy, I don’t remember what black is supposed to be.

TBH, very few people have even bothered to use the correct barrel so as long as it’s 11.5” I wouldn’t worry about it.
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7/26/2024 4:35:59 PM EDT
[#3]
The correct barrel for a 1st gen ODG rail is an 11.5" Colt 6933 light weight profile.  Infact, I built my clone off of a factory 6933 and used a .068" BRT insert in a G gas block to mimic the Quantico spec.
7/26/2024 11:38:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bhavin22][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:
So. By the grace of G$ and the guys at GACS. I managed to get something interesting in the last 4th of July sale

I got an original 10” federal rail. With the shorter bottom section. Measures out at 10”. So do I need to build a FBI clone gun now?

I have a spare aimpoint T1 laying around. Not sure if I have the right barrel. I do have a SBR registered lower, and would consider doing another one for the heck of it.
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So how OG is your rail? Is this section flat or is it super OG like mine with the rounded ends. I believe the rounded ends are pre production and very first batch.
7/27/2024 11:58:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bhavin22:

So how OG is your rail? Is this section flat or is it super OG like mine with the rounded ends. I believe the rounded ends are pre production and very first batch.
https://i.imgur.com/89GbOVh.jpg
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Rounded and then tapers down for the word super like yours. Looks the same. Just different color
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7/28/2024 9:06:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bhavin22][Edited] [#6]
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:

Rounded and then tapers down for the word super like yours. Looks the same. Just different color
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Nice! That’s a true OG rail
7/29/2024 10:20:03 PM EDT
[#7]
ISO Sphur HRT T2 mount.
7/30/2024 1:09:32 AM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By dms888:
ISO Sphur HRT T2 mount.
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Check with Mile High
7/30/2024 8:38:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:


Check with Mile High
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Thanks I did, OOS.
8/2/2024 4:45:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111][Edited] [#10]
my humble offering

8/8/2024 5:38:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Can anyone provide some clarity on gas block dimples?  I thought I remember reading somewhere in this thread about the Geissele super gas block being installed with dimples but no cross pin.

Is that correct?  Who's dimpling the barrels?  Do they come from Colt like that or is the FBI armorer doing it?

Also are both the silver and black gas blocks kosher?
8/13/2024 8:14:09 PM EDT
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8/26/2024 1:02:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Thinking about going down this rabbit hole, and need some advice. I just picked up a colt 11.5 barrel, cage code upper, from Brownells. Plus a ODG Fed rail from different vendor.
I have a form 1 colt m4 marked lower RTG. After thinking about this I have a LE 6920 with the restricted  LE / military only marked lower that has never been out of the safe since 2005. Should I take it out and swap out the barrel and furniture or go with the above listed options? Of course I will need to get the tax stamp. Plus this will take an OG 6920 and change it forever. Probably will never get the $1500 I paid for it after the sunset of the AWB so money is not a factor.

Thanks

8/29/2024 2:33:22 PM EDT
[#14]
I have a Spuhr HRT SM-2007B Mount which is 1.653 for lower 1/3 co-witness but it doesn’t seem to work with the Troy Battle BUIS thatwere issued with the recievers

Are there different height HRT 2007-B mounts??

Everything I find says they are 1.653 so I don't know if the orignal uppers sights co-witnessed with the T1
8/29/2024 8:41:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BobaDebt:
I have a Spuhr HRT SM-2007B Mount which is 1.653 for lower 1/3 co-witness but it doesn’t seem to work with the Troy Battle BUIS thatwere issued with the recievers

Are there different height HRT 2007-B mounts??

Everything I find says they are 1.653 so I don't know if the orignal uppers sights co-witnessed with the T1
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This is what mine says.
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8/30/2024 5:27:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-:


This is what mine says.
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Does your BUIS co-witness with the red dot that ison this mount?
8/30/2024 7:40:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BobaDebt:


Does your BUIS co-witness with the red dot that ison this mount?
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Originally Posted By BobaDebt:
Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-:


This is what mine says.


Does your BUIS co-witness with the red dot that ison this mount?



I would call it lower 1/3 ?
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8/31/2024 10:48:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sleepym4][Edited] [#18]
Anyone knows if any of theses hrt stocks are the correct one for a gray build?
https://maximdefense.com/hrt-stocks-braces/
9/5/2024 10:55:33 PM EDT
[#19]
I have decided to opt for the new RDS for my Field Agent upper


I think I'm the first person to post a pic of this set up


9/6/2024 7:03:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BobaDebt:
I have decided to opt for the new RDS for my Field Agent upper


I think I'm the first person to post a pic of this set up


https://i.imgur.com/W9pEC5l.jpg
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What length is your barrel? Looks nice!
9/7/2024 4:51:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Just getting ready to start my build on one of these for an sbr.

Picked up a stripped upper, 11.5 heavy barrel, and a bcg. What gas block and gas tube are you guys using?
9/7/2024 5:19:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PT1:
Just getting ready to start my build on one of these for an sbr.

Picked up a stripped upper, 11.5 heavy barrel, and a bcg. What gas block and gas tube are you guys using?
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The correct gas block is the silver Geissele, but they’re out of production and not all that great to be honest, I’d just use whatever you like.
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9/7/2024 10:14:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:

The correct gas block is the silver Geissele, but they’re out of production and not all that great to be honest, I’d just use whatever you like.
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I appreciate it sir. Im excited to get this one done. Just need to order the hand guard, gas block, gas tube, and forward assist. And the waiting game for all this stuff to arrive.

On a side note I’m an idiot and now I have 3 colt bcg’s. Went to the gun show today and bought one forgetting that I ordered one last night after work and won another on GB!  Guess it’s always good to have extras
9/9/2024 9:10:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -MainDisconnect-][Edited] [#24]


Slapped the Swat Clone upper on a full auto lower.

Ran great and was surprisingly easy to control.
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9/10/2024 3:18:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jmh556:

What length is your barrel? Looks nice!
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Thanks

It's a 10.3, I know that is wrong but all of my other SBR uppers are 10.3 or .4 so it's what I stick with
9/10/2024 5:35:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BobaDebt:



Thanks

It's a 10.3, I know that is wrong but all of my other SBR uppers are 10.3 or .4 so it's what I stick with
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I have a setup similar to yours, except I used an Expo 10.3 chrome lined barrel and a DDC G Fed rail. I also used Precision Armament shims to get the closed tine Warcomp to mount my Surefire RC-2. I'll try and post some pics of it later.
9/18/2024 12:29:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CQB762][Edited] [#27]


This is my build so far.

Colt m4 lower
Colt upper
Colt 6933 barrel with shaved F marked FSB pined on.
Colt 4 position tube with magpul crt
Geissele SSA trigger group
Stock colt upper and lower parts
Magpul back up sights
Aimpoint T1 with DD base

Need sling, and SF light

I got the ODG government CH, and trigger guard on sale but not sure if I like it so I have a black CH and Colt trigger guard RTG.

Thoughts?
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9/18/2024 12:37:21 AM EDT
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9/18/2024 11:37:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CQB762:
https://imgur.com/a/eimXuzc

This is my build so far.

Colt m4 lower
Colt upper
Colt 6933 barrel with shaved F marked FSB pined on.
Colt 4 position tube with magpul crt
Geissele SSA trigger group
Stock colt upper and lower parts
Magpul back up sights
Aimpoint T1 with DD base

Need sling, and SF light

I got the ODG government CH, and trigger guard on sale but not sure if I like it so I have a black CH and Colt trigger guard RTG.

Thoughts?
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/96823/IMG_0131_jpeg-3325394.JPG
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Not bad. I did the bombproof install with the G gas block.

I haven’t seen any pictures of the ODG changing handle in use. I had one, sold it and currently using the black Gov handle.
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9/19/2024 12:33:21 PM EDT
[#30]
My goal was to use the G gas block on a stripped 6933 barrel but it seems to be out of spec. The gas block fits perfectly on 3 different barrels, 2 Colt’s that I removed the FSB on ,and a stripped FN. But I can’t get it to fit the striped Colt 6933 barrel. So that one is going back to the vendor.


10/18/2024 9:38:34 PM EDT
[#31]
One clone one not...
10/30/2024 11:30:16 AM EDT
[#32]
Took mine out at the range. Shoots like a laser at 25 yards.
11/22/2024 12:59:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dms888][Edited] [#33]
I have the MK4 FED ODG Gen1 rail.  Looking at barrel options:

Is this the barrel for "clone" correct?  
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-barrels-parts/ar-15-le6933-5.56-barrel-11.5in/?msockid=01702d2b3a4e6a7f187738153bdc6b3e

Any feedback on this barrel for gassing, accuracy, reliability?

I am also thinking DD 11.5, have ADCO pin my Giessele gas block.  

Thanks in advance.

11/22/2024 5:16:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dms888:
I have the MK4 FED ODG Gen1 rail.  Looking at barrel options:

Is this the barrel for "clone" correct?  
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-barrels-parts/ar-15-le6933-5.56-barrel-11.5in/?msockid=01702d2b3a4e6a7f187738153bdc6b3e

Any feedback on this barrel for gassing, accuracy, reliability?

I am also thinking DD 11.5, have ADCO pin my Giessele gas block.  

Thanks in advance.

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That is the correct barrel for a SWAT (OD) gun.
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11/22/2024 9:46:32 PM EDT
[#35]
This is one time when there is so many different setups that have been in use, that I love this clone concept as it’s pretty loose within quite a few things.

I’m looking for an 11.5 SOCOM profile CL barrel for mine.
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11/29/2024 11:01:41 AM EDT
[#36]
Better go get your government charging handle if you don’t have one yet. Black Friday sale at G and in stock
11/30/2024 12:37:21 AM EDT
[#37]
11/30/2024 8:18:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WhitlockedandLoaded][Edited] [#38]
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11/30/2024 8:20:25 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By daylapaul:
Can anyone provide some clarity on gas block dimples?  I thought I remember reading somewhere in this thread about the Geissele super gas block being installed with dimples but no cross pin.

Is that correct?  Who's dimpling the barrels?  Do they come from Colt like that or is the FBI armorer doing it?

Also are both the silver and black gas blocks kosher?
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Did anyone ever figure this out?
11/30/2024 11:28:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhitlockedandLoaded:


Did anyone ever figure this out?
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FBI guns haven’t used the g gas blocks in a long time. I think it may have been a one time/developmental thing. Most recent first hand info from swat members seem to indicate they are all using colt shaved FSBs now.  You might have to read through this thread but the info is there
12/2/2024 9:04:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Has the OD Federal rail been discontinued?

I was thinking about parting my upper out and went to check to see what they sell for and it’s no longer listed.
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12/2/2024 9:14:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Has the OD Federal rail been discontinued?

I was thinking about parting my upper out and went to check to see what they sell for and it's no longer listed.
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I just looked on their website and it doesn't look like they have green as an option for any rails.
12/2/2024 9:18:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Muzap:
I just looked on their website and it doesn't look like they have green as an option for any rails.
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Originally Posted By Muzap:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Has the OD Federal rail been discontinued?

I was thinking about parting my upper out and went to check to see what they sell for and it's no longer listed.
I just looked on their website and it doesn't look like they have green as an option for any rails.

I’ve seen stuff go OOS for over a year and never be removed from the site, I don’t like the look of that.
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12/3/2024 1:57:34 AM EDT
[#44]
Bill said that ODG & Grey rails are going to be taken off the regular site, there focus is on the black & DDC stuff

He said those two colors will come back for their sales though (I believe the sale before their BF sale had ODG)
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12/16/2024 1:12:01 PM EDT
[#45]
Posted my OD upper in the EE if anyone is looking, accepting offers.
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12/16/2024 2:55:36 PM EDT
[#46]
HRT appears to be using black Mk16 rails nows
12/16/2024 3:22:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Posted my OD upper in the EE if anyone is looking, accepting offers.
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I saw that. Tempting for sure.
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12/16/2024 3:44:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:

I saw that. Tempting for sure.
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Posted my OD upper in the EE if anyone is looking, accepting offers.

I saw that. Tempting for sure.

You couldn’t build it for what it’s priced at, but it is admittedly priced on the high end of its value for used parts. I’ll probably add a few accessories to the listing without increasing the price much if at all.

I don’t have to sell it, but I’ve pretty much lost interest in it.
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12/22/2024 12:42:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:
HRT appears to be using black Mk16 rails nows
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HRT is issued complete Super Duties now.
12/22/2024 2:38:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Callahan:



HRT is issued complete Super Duties now.
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Makes sense, couldn’t really see a ton of detail in the photos I saw but it was definitely mk16ish, and black.  Also looked like they were using 19s as well, but again not the clearest photo

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