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11/26/2023 9:34:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Air_Soft_Contractor:
What are the clone correct muzzle devices?
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I’d say right now it’s going to be only the OSS/Hux QD flash hider as we are all supposed to running Flow 556ks.

11/26/2023 8:12:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zone0ne:


I’d say right now it’s going to be only the OSS/Hux QD flash hider as we are all supposed to running Flow 556ks.

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Originally Posted By Zone0ne:
Originally Posted By Air_Soft_Contractor:
What are the clone correct muzzle devices?


I’d say right now it’s going to be only the OSS/Hux QD flash hider as we are all supposed to running Flow 556ks.



Thanks.

I was considering of those.

I've got some A2's and crush washers I could throw on it, but I think I'll wait for the OSS 556 QD to arrive.

Does that go on without any shims or washer at all?

Is the standard Rocksett compound recommended?
11/26/2023 9:20:24 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By Zone0ne:


I’d say right now it’s going to be only the OSS/Hux QD flash hider as we are all supposed to running Flow 556ks.

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So from what I gathered, they were running the SF RC2 and now have the Flow 556k? I recently picked up the pre flow 556k which is the HX QD 556k, which is not 3d printed. Too good of a deal to pass up and offers more serviceability if ever needed but kinda in line with my clone.
11/27/2023 12:35:01 AM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By Air_Soft_Contractor:


Thanks.

I was considering of those.

I've got some A2's and crush washers I could throw on it, but I think I'll wait for the OSS 556 QD to arrive.

Does that go on without any shims or washer at all?

Is the standard Rocksett compound recommended?
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no shims needed; it isn't timed

11/29/2023 7:07:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Might go actually shoot this again this weekend...



11/29/2023 7:45:10 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By RWA007:
Might go actually shoot this again this weekend...

https://i.imgur.com/hJ5SyZk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kjJhAUu.jpg
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God I need to get some OD Pmags
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11/29/2023 7:52:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RWA007:
Might go actually shoot this again this weekend...

https://i.imgur.com/hJ5SyZk.jpg

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What stock is that and how does it feel?
11/30/2023 1:44:56 PM EDT
[#8]
It's the Hogue overmolded stock.  I do have both an ODG and a Black CTR stock, but I like the look, the feel and the fitment better of this Hogue stock.

https://www.hogueinc.com/ar-15-m16-overmolded-collapsible-buttstock-fits-mil-spec-buffer-tube-od-green


12/4/2023 8:27:51 PM EDT
[#9]


I think I am finally done with my build. Got my T2 mounted on a DD micro mount w/ lower 1/3 spacer. My Huxwrx HX QD 556K cleared on Saturday. I took it out with a buddy for the first shots with the can today and I have to say I am impressed. It has a sharp but not unpleasant tone. Very little gas to the face and my BCG was almost clean after a couple mags which is quite different than my other suppressed SBRs. I love the T2. I wasn't sure how it would run with an H3 but not a single hiccup with PMC. I have a super 42 spring and h2 on the way because I wasn't sure how it would run. I may end up running a different light at some point but other than I'm happy.
12/5/2023 9:37:37 AM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By ResponsibleSecond:


So from what I gathered, they were running the SF RC2 and now have the Flow 556k? I recently picked up the pre flow 556k which is the HX QD 556k, which is not 3d printed. Too good of a deal to pass up and offers more serviceability if ever needed but kinda in line with my clone.
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Can't speak for HRT.... but for SWAT, they had A2 flash hiders and now run OSS/Hux QD flash hiders.

I think the suppressor is going to dictate what they are running muzzle device wise, as everyone is running suppressed now.
12/12/2023 5:34:52 PM EDT
[#11]
I’ve got a Mk4 fed rail inbound, excited to turn my 11.5 into an HRT inspired build. Also, in on 87
12/21/2023 8:37:00 PM EDT
[#12]
So FBI just awarded Aimpoint with a $7mil contract for the RDS, and $4mil for the CompM4S.

Hmmm...
12/21/2023 11:22:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slowkota1:
So FBI just awarded Aimpoint with a $7mil contract for the RDS, and $4mil for the CompM4S.

Hmmm...
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I am guessing soon the RDS will be clone correct. I wonder if any units (HRT) will keep fielding the T2 or the sig.
12/21/2023 11:32:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ResponsibleSecond:


I am guessing soon the RDS will be clone correct. I wonder if any units (HRT) will keep fielding the T2 or the sig.
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Originally Posted By ResponsibleSecond:
Originally Posted By slowkota1:
So FBI just awarded Aimpoint with a $7mil contract for the RDS, and $4mil for the CompM4S.

Hmmm...


I am guessing soon the RDS will be clone correct. I wonder if any units (HRT) will keep fielding the T2 or the sig.


I bet HRT and Regional SWAT keep using the T2s and EXPS3s
12/22/2023 12:47:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bluedog82][Edited] [#15]
Duty RDS is good for me as mine will eventually make its way onto my clone. I’ve read quite a bit of this thread, and it’s been a good read. Has anyone made a list of the VFGs/hand stops that have been seen in the wild? I know the Magpul AFG Gen 1&2 have been seen, what else?
12/23/2023 5:06:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: YukonBoy03][Edited] [#16]
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Originally Posted By bluedog82:
Duty RDS is good for me as mine will eventually make its way onto my clone. I’ve read quite a bit of this thread, and it’s been a good read. Has anyone made a list of the VFGs/hand stops that have been seen in the wild? I know the Magpul AFG Gen 1&2 have been seen, what else?
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Magpul vertical grips.
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The silly Fab defense angled one
12/24/2023 4:33:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slowkota1:


I bet HRT and Regional SWAT keep using the T2s and EXPS3s
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Originally Posted By slowkota1:
Originally Posted By ResponsibleSecond:
Originally Posted By slowkota1:
So FBI just awarded Aimpoint with a $7mil contract for the RDS, and $4mil for the CompM4S.

Hmmm...


I am guessing soon the RDS will be clone correct. I wonder if any units (HRT) will keep fielding the T2 or the sig.


I bet HRT and Regional SWAT keep using the T2s and EXPS3s


Yeah this BPA is probably for all of the line agents to order against, not to mention other agencies
1/22/2024 3:11:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChrizzaiN][Edited] [#18]
Wrapped up my Noveske clone-ish build.
Haven't staked the castle nut yet because I may add a Law folder, but other than that, she's finished and I love her :)


1/29/2024 12:09:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: YukonBoy03][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By ChrizzaiN:
Wrapped up my Noveske clone-ish build.
Haven't staked the castle nut yet because I may add a Law folder, but other than that, she's finished and I love her :)

https://i.postimg.cc/d1ZX9t6x/20240122-134228-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/rwqBLTyD/20240122-133931-2.jpg
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From another FCD fan, you have great taste.
2/3/2024 6:17:04 PM EDT
[#20]
Think this clone is done.

2/5/2024 3:15:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Anyone do this in 14.5?  In a non sbr state but would love to do this style build.  Any recs on what muzzle device if I did do it?
2/5/2024 6:30:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RichieRich562:
Anyone do this in 14.5?  In a non sbr state but would love to do this style build.  Any recs on what muzzle device if I did do it?
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At that point it’s not a clone so pick whatever you like. A 14.5” barrel with a 10” handguard is going to look odd, I’d use this one.

https://geissele.com/13-5-super-modular-rail-mk4-m-lokr-odg.html
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2/7/2024 8:27:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RichieRich562:
Anyone do this in 14.5?  In a non sbr state but would love to do this style build.  Any recs on what muzzle device if I did do it?
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It's my understanding that the FBI allows the carry of personally owned Colt Federal Patrol Rifles if non-swat agents want to. It's just a colt with a 13" Mk4 rail.



I liked the look of the longer rail so much I put one on a BCM 14.5 M4 upper. It's zero percent clone but I'm happy with the way it turned out.

2/8/2024 11:10:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Finally scored a Grey MK4 Fed rail and I picked up an Aimpoint Duty RDS. Had to wait a while, but the Surefire A2 style suppressor mount finally came in. I used a Geissele 11.5 barrel for this one, so it's not anywhere near clone correct, but it shoots good.

Grey MK4 Fed_1 by James H., on Flickr

Grey MK4 Fed_2 by James H., on Flickr

2/9/2024 12:38:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jmh556:
Finally scored a Grey MK4 Fed rail and I picked up an Aimpoint Duty RDS. Had to wait a while, but the Surefire A2 style suppressor mount finally came in. I used a Geissele 11.5 barrel for this one, so it's not anywhere near clone correct, but it shoots good.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53517959853_3ca479e595.jpgGrey MK4 Fed_1 by James H., on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53517960903_069c5b59d9_w.jpgGrey MK4 Fed_2 by James H., on Flickr

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Duty RDS is approved now.
2/27/2024 5:53:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Can’t post pics, but here is my “inspired” HRT clone. It will eventually get an Aimpoint Duty.
2/27/2024 9:36:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluedog82:
Can’t post pics, but here is my “inspired” HRT clone. It will eventually get an Aimpoint Duty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu58EDCxZFo
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Great song!
2/29/2024 11:21:21 AM EDT
[#28]
Last picture of the almost clone that didn’t quite get to be a clone before I replace the Mk4 Fed with a Mk16 to lean towards URGI.
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3/2/2024 10:54:09 AM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles:
Last picture of the almost clone that didn’t quite get to be a clone before I replace the Mk4 Fed with a Mk16 to lean towards URGI.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/430237/IMG_9505_jpeg-3144823.JPG
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Nice Recce 5
3/2/2024 12:15:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluedog82:


Nice Recce 5
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I’m not sure if that’s sarcasm since this is a clone thread, but I’m gonna go with it’s not lol so thanks. Also part of the reason I’m kinda getting away from clones now. I just can’t mentally justify the cost of some of the clone parts like the Flow or whatever flowthru suppressor that apparently has a contract with the FBI.
3/2/2024 2:57:02 PM EDT
[#31]
The FDE 556k the correct can for these now?
3/2/2024 3:04:21 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles:

I’m not sure if that’s sarcasm since this is a clone thread, but I’m gonna go with it’s not lol so thanks. Also part of the reason I’m kinda getting away from clones now. I just can’t mentally justify the cost of some of the clone parts like the Flow or whatever flowthru suppressor that apparently has a contract with the FBI.
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Originally Posted By bluedog82:


Nice Recce 5

I’m not sure if that’s sarcasm since this is a clone thread, but I’m gonna go with it’s not lol so thanks. Also part of the reason I’m kinda getting away from clones now. I just can’t mentally justify the cost of some of the clone parts like the Flow or whatever flowthru suppressor that apparently has a contract with the FBI.


Everything on contract will change in a few years anyway
3/2/2024 4:06:37 PM EDT
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[b]Originally Posted By []

I’m not sure if that’s sarcasm since this is a clone thread, but I’m gonna go with it’s not lol so thanks. Also part of the reason I’m kinda getting away from clones now. I just can’t mentally justify the cost of some of the clone parts like the Flow or whatever flowthru suppressor that apparently has a contract with the FBI.
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Definitely not; I have a Recce 5K on mine lol. I tell myself it’s slightly clone correct because it’s related to the Griffin HRT which was also up for the contract :[/b
3/2/2024 6:53:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jhon:
The FDE 556k the correct can for these now?
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I thought there was a picture of the grey/black 556, but I might be wrong and it’s the FDE 556k.
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Everything on contract will change in a few years anyway
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This is very true. Tbh, I’m surprised they didn’t follow the military’s lead and go with the tried and true RC2. It’s a way better looking can than the Flow too.
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Definitely not; I have a Recce 5K on mine lol. I tell myself it’s slightly clone correct because it’s related to the Griffin HRT which was also up for the contract :[/b
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Well in that case thanks again. I kinda wish the Recce 5k was out when I ordered my Recce 5, I might’ve gone with that instead.
3/28/2024 9:04:30 AM EDT
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From another FCD fan, you have great taste.
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Originally Posted By ChrizzaiN:
Wrapped up my Noveske clone-ish build.
Haven't staked the castle nut yet because I may add a Law folder, but other than that, she's finished and I love her :)

https://i.postimg.cc/d1ZX9t6x/20240122-134228-2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/rwqBLTyD/20240122-133931-2.jpg


From another FCD fan, you have great taste.


Thank you, I do love the duck sauce! This Noveske lower was full FCD parts before it became part of this rifle but I still felt the need to include a little flare into this build.
5/27/2024 4:28:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wyominer][Edited] [#36]
Don’t know if this has been posted yet…looks like one more organization is switching to the Super Duty
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5/29/2024 12:57:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wyominer:
Don’t know if this has been posted yet…looks like one more organization is switching to the Super Duty
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That's HRT so... they get other things when they want other things.
Looks like from a training with the blue pistol, faux suppressor, and Lancer mags
5/29/2024 12:12:31 PM EDT
[#38]
I vaguely remember some guys building these with 10.5” barrels, but I don’t really want to wander through 87 pages.

Has anyone done that? I’m thinking I want to try 300blk and it would be nice if all I had to buy was a barrel.
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5/29/2024 7:08:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I vaguely remember some guys building these with 10.5" barrels, but I don't really want to wander through 87 pages.

Has anyone done that? I'm thinking I want to try 300blk and it would be nice if all I had to buy was a barrel.
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I built one with a 10.5 barrel and used a Surefire closed tine flash hider. I used an extra base shim in order to get the suppressor to mount up properly. It runs well, especially after I added an adjustable gas block. This is an old picture which doesn't show the RC-2 mounted. It's not totally "clone correct" since the lower is a SBR'd LMT Defender, Holosun optic, and B5 stock. But, it works really well.
10.5 and G Fed Rail by James H., on Flickr
5/29/2024 7:10:28 PM EDT
[#40]
There are some other pictures of the new guns where you can see the anti-rotation tabs on the MK16, so I think they are just MK16 rails on Colt uppers and not full Super Duty rifles.
5/29/2024 8:46:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jmh556:

I built one with a 10.5 barrel and used a Surefire closed tine flash hider. I used an extra base shim in order to get the suppressor to mount up properly. It runs well, especially after I added an adjustable gas block. This is an old picture which doesn't show the RC-2 mounted. It's not totally "clone correct" since the lower is a SBR'd LMT Defender, Holosun optic, and B5 stock. But, it works really well.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53756555240_989c046057.jpg10.5 and G Fed Rail by James H., on Flickr
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Originally Posted By jmh556:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
I vaguely remember some guys building these with 10.5" barrels, but I don't really want to wander through 87 pages.

Has anyone done that? I'm thinking I want to try 300blk and it would be nice if all I had to buy was a barrel.

I built one with a 10.5 barrel and used a Surefire closed tine flash hider. I used an extra base shim in order to get the suppressor to mount up properly. It runs well, especially after I added an adjustable gas block. This is an old picture which doesn't show the RC-2 mounted. It's not totally "clone correct" since the lower is a SBR'd LMT Defender, Holosun optic, and B5 stock. But, it works really well.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53756555240_989c046057.jpg10.5 and G Fed Rail by James H., on Flickr

Thanks!
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6/2/2024 11:47:28 AM EDT
[#42]


Made a video on my HRT “clone”—it’s far from 100%. It’s my first clone build though, and I’ve really appreciated all the info in this thread. Anything I missed, let me know!
7/2/2024 2:44:29 AM EDT
[#43]
What version Steiner dbal are they using on the regional guys rifles? A2, A3?

Thanks
7/2/2024 4:18:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RobMa:
What version Steiner dbal are they using on the regional guys rifles? A2, A3?

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I’ve only seen PEQ15s or no MFAL at all.
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7/2/2024 7:24:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RobMa][Edited] [#45]


Check out the first picture (although I think this particular picture has been posted a lot in this thread so forgive me)



7/2/2024 8:07:00 AM EDT
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http://optics-dealer.com/2019/06/06/op-complete-fbi-hrt-geissele/

Check out the first picture (although I think this particular picture has been posted a lot in this thread so forgive me)



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I approved your pic post but can’t see the pic, I’m guessing it’s a DBAL of some kind?
"I do what I want" - Abu Hajar
7/2/2024 12:48:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RobMa][Edited] [#47]
Thanks, I was asking because someone offered me a nice dbal a2 and the unit checks out from Steiner, they said that I could legally buy the full power version but if it breaks down and I send it in they would not send it back to me because it was a "restricted" item. So, I guess I will have to pass on it... too bad the unit was in great shape but too much money for a possible future paperweight.

7/19/2024 7:40:37 PM EDT
[#48]
My non clone only inspired build. Also bump to keep this thread alive.

7/24/2024 4:59:56 PM EDT
[#49]
So. By the grace of G$ and the guys at GACS. I managed to get something interesting in the last 4th of July sale

I got an original 10” federal rail. With the shorter bottom section. Measures out at 10”. So do I need to build a FBI clone gun now?

I have a spare aimpoint T1 laying around. Not sure if I have the right barrel. I do have a SBR registered lower, and would consider doing another one for the heck of it.
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7/24/2024 5:13:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:
So. By the grace of G$ and the guys at GACS. I managed to get something interesting in the last 4th of July sale

I got an original 10” federal rail. With the shorter bottom section. Measures out at 10”. So do I need to build a FBI clone gun now?

I have a spare aimpoint T1 laying around. Not sure if I have the right barrel. I do have a SBR registered lower, and would consider doing another one for the heck of it.
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The barrel is going to depend on the color of your rail.
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