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Posted: 8/23/2020 11:32:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: So which is it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: Originally Posted By YukonBoy03: Originally Posted By MeanGun: what is the proper end plate to use for this to be clone correct? Magpul Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Standard milspec. So which is it? Eventually, they will all have the Magpul endplate. |
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Posted: 8/23/2020 11:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: Was any grips besides Ergo grips used? Don't really like them that much. Also any specific colors? some limited Magpul grips and some of the older RRA marked Hogues have been seen. |
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Posted: 8/23/2020 11:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhavin22: Definitely need to move the optic off the rail and on the upper only. If not trying to make it clone correct which it seems your not. Put whatever you like on it. But get ready to catch grief if you post pics in here. Sorry if I was not clear, yes, I'm trying to make it as correct as possible, and nothing is installed on this picture, Just so everyone sees where I am so far, so keep the info coming... |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 9:14:25 AM EDT
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Page one has a good list of parts. I would start with Troy back up irons and a aimpoint micro. For the light you can use the inforce wml or surefire m300
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:26:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YukonBoy03: Eventually, they will all have the Magpul endplate. is there any solid proof of this? i didnt think any LE or MIL contracts were using Mapgul endplates. only ones I know of are standard Mill spec and CQD endplates. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:45:36 AM EDT
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Is the geissele mk3 9.5” rail used on any of these fbi teams?
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:54:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snackgunner: Is the geissele mk3 9.5” rail used on any of these fbi teams? not that i am aware of. i believe its only the 10" versions |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 12:09:55 PM EDT
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I’m thinking they may have been used before the mk4 came about but i could be wrong
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 12:33:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By snackgunner: I’m thinking they may have been used before the mk4 came about but i could be wrong I guess it could be a possibility. just havent seen any proof |
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Posted: 8/25/2020 6:16:16 PM EDT
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Swapped out the A2 for a Surefire SFCT flash hider. I swear one day I’ll swap out the CompM3 for a T2
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Posted: 8/26/2020 9:43:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bhavin22]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Swapped out the A2 for a Surefire SFCT flash hider. I swear one day I’ll swap out the CompM3 for a T2 https://i.imgur.com/u8muZJP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TPCWOO3.jpg That’s sick you have good taste! Might have to to do the same and use my SF RC Same old pic sorry 
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USA
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Posted: 8/29/2020 12:25:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Wrong: Figured this would be the most knowledgeable place to ask this question. Recently came into possession of an upper with what was described as the colt hrt heavy barrel. It has the fsp intact but I am unable to see any markings on the barrel itself due to the daniel defense 9.5 fsp lite rail which is installed, I'm not going to go through the hassle of taking off the rail since I'd have to get the fsp off. Would the diameter alone be an indicator? Here's a link to a pic where you can see the diameter. This thread rules btw. Dd 9.5 fsp lite https://imgur.com/gallery/LntV2Sy That looks like an HBAR to me however the lack of markings makes me think this was a 14.5 that was chopped. I'd have to see the muzzle threads to tell. Nice find on the 9.5" FSP Lite, what are your plans for it? I've been looking for one! |
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Posted: 8/29/2020 2:54:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ironcross]
[#13]
DBL tap
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Posted: 8/29/2020 2:55:03 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2020 3:48:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mr_Wrong]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: That looks like an HBAR to me however the lack of markings makes me think this was a 14.5 that was chopped. I'd have to see the muzzle threads to tell. Nice find on the 9.5" FSP Lite, what are your plans for it? I've been looking for one! The threads look legit. As far as the markings go, it isn't that there is a lack of markings, it's that I can't see the markings due to the rail. I'd have to remove the fsp in order to remove the rail and I'm not planning on doing that until I can pick up the PRI folding front sight I'm currently obsessed with (or an A.R.M.S. one). The rail was what drew me to this upper in the first place, since I've been on the hunt for one for awhile. I got it for a song and if the barrel is what I suspect it to be that just makes it even sweeter. Thanks for the reply! Edit: I'll just put a link to a pic so I don't clog this thread up with something that isn't a clone. https://imgur.com/gallery/VREtOkk |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2020 10:47:37 PM EDT
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Threw on an eotech for a little trial run and may keep it on for good. Despite the weight, I much prefer it to the micro red dot units.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 2:53:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:27:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Awesome, thanks for sharing a photo of the real deal! I hear OD green spray paint cans rattling out there in the forum...
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hrt4me: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1182/green___grey_M4_carbines_jpg-1584398.JPG Great examples. What pistol grip is on the grey one? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Awesome, thanks for sharing a photo of the real deal! I hear OD green spray paint cans rattling out there in the forum... these are both as issued from QT via PFI in my local field office next time I'll try to get a black M4 in the pic as well |
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USA
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huey_crew_chief: Great examples. What pistol grip is on the grey one? ERGO Flat Top Suregrip in graphite grey. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:12:39 PM EDT
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So much for scoring an 11.5” Colt 6933 barrel from Brownells the other day. Here’s what ups tried to deliver to me today. I hate ups. Well, FBI clone on hold for now.
  
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: So much for scoring an 11.5” Colt 6933 barrel from Brownells the other day. Here’s what ups tried to deliver to me today. I hate ups. Well, FBI clone on hold for now. That sucks but fixing that is pretty easy. It looks like the crown is fine and the thread just need chasing. I quality gun smith could fix that in a few minutes. Worst case: chase, face, and re-crown. Don't give up on it. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:29:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hrt4me: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1182/green___grey_M4_carbines_jpg-1584398.JPG What vfg? |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:43:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MeanGun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bgLGT: That sucks but fixing that is pretty easy. It looks like the crown is fine and the thread just need chasing. I quality gun smith could fix that in a few minutes. Worst case: chase, face, and re-crown. Don't give up on it. Man, I was so pist I just refused the package. Not only was the barrel dinged up, one of the three items I ordered was flat out missing. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:02:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soopreme: What vfg? FAB Defense PTK |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:25:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3ACR_Scout]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: So much for scoring an 11.5” Colt 6933 barrel from Brownells the other day. Here’s what ups tried to deliver to me today. I hate ups. Well, FBI clone on hold for now. Really sorry to see that. Maybe it's just the way we perceive things, but it always seems like the most important deliveries end up getting damaged in shipping, never the box of toiletries from Amazon. I agree with the other posts that it should clean up fine. Edit: I just saw you said you refused the package. Hopefully Brownells will get more in soon so you can get a replacement. On a related note though, thanks for the heads up about the barrel from Brownells. I didn't know they were carrying those. I'm guessing that's the stripped barrel they list. Does it come "clean," not drilled for FSB pins? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:56:44 AM EDT
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i guess everyone sucks at packing... its not just au lol
it looks repairable as stated above. file an insurance claim with UPS and get your money to send it off and get repaired. in the end you will be on top. good luck |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:03:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hrt4me: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1182/green___grey_M4_carbines_jpg-1584398.JPG Man, that's it. I need to build a grey one now. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 10:19:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hrt4me: these are both as issued from QT via PFI in my local field office next time I'll try to get a black M4 in the pic as well Tracking, that's interesting. It looks like someone spray painted the green one in a simple camo pattern at some point before it got the new upper with the Mk4 handguard. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:07:20 AM EDT
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How are you guys finding the green rail in stock? I've had the Geissele page open on a browser tab for almost two months now and don't ever see it in stock. I have it on "my wishlist" but not once have gotten an email about it being in stock.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:10:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Really sorry to see that. Maybe it's just the way we perceive things, but it always seems like the most important deliveries end up getting damaged in shipping, never the box of toiletries from Amazon. I agree with the other posts that it should clean up fine. Edit: I just saw you said you refused the package. Hopefully Brownells will get more in soon so you can get a replacement. On a related note though, thanks for the heads up about the barrel from Brownells. I didn't know they were carrying those. I'm guessing that's the stripped barrel they list. Does it come "clean," not drilled for FSB pins? Yep, the Brownell's barrels are clean. I used one for my build. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2020 11:12:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jpcdmd: How are you guys finding the green rail in stock? I've had the Geissele page open on a browser tab for almost two months now and don't ever see it in stock. I have it on "my wishlist" but not once have gotten an email about it being in stock. its not often. they did however restock maybe a month ago? but it sold out rather quickly, as usual. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bgLGT: Yep, the Brownell's barrels are clean. I used one for my build. Excellent, thanks, went ahead and backordered one. Added a Schmid selector for another project to bring it up over $250, then used a $25 off coupon plus 4% back from Active Junky. Makes the price pretty reasonable for a clean 6933 barrel, ready for the Geissele gas block install, and I didn't really want to invest in a complete upper when I only need the barrel. Hopefully they'll get some more in stock soon, and UPS will treat it right. I'm not thrilled that Brownells no longer offers free shipping with their discount codes, but at least they don't double tap you for shipping again on backordered items. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2020 1:14:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Soopreme]
[#35]
 Friends lol |
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Posted: 9/11/2020 5:40:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kiltakaze]
[#36]
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2020 11:33:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Soopreme]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kiltakaze: If this isn't kosher because it isn't an FBI clone, let me know and I'll take it down. This is, however, the rifle I use for SWAT operations at work, so its kind of a SWAT "clone" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/293626/20200911_153539_jpg-1587660.JPG The least you could do is have the correct rail... 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:38:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MeanGun]
[#38]
So which grip would be the most clone correct? Just seeing what the thoughts are out there..... clone correct or build as you want? I’m doing a RRA lower if that helps determine clone correctness on the grips. I have, from left to right,
Ergo, black, Beaver rail Hogue, ODG, no beaver tail Hogue, ODG, Beaver tail Hogue, Black, Beaver tail 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2020 5:26:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Soopreme]
[#39]
I’ve seen both Black ergo dovetail and black hogue no dovetail
Lots of people seem to like running odg grips. But I haven’t seen a colored grip in the wild yet. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 7:22:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soopreme: I’ve seen both Black ergo dovetail and black hogue no dovetail Lots of people seem to like running odg grips. But I haven’t seen a colored grip in the wild yet. I always thought this looked like an OD Magpul grip. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2020 8:24:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: I always thought this looked like an OD Magpul grip. https://i.postimg.cc/TPZh5Ndr/fcghnfgh.png Odg Magpul? |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 9:55:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soopreme: Odg Magpul? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soopreme: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: I always thought this looked like an OD Magpul grip. https://i.postimg.cc/TPZh5Ndr/fcghnfgh.png Odg Magpul? Yeah, at first glance it looks like a MOE, but you can see what looks like a seam for a removable back strap. That leads me to believe it’s a MIAD. The trigger guard also appears to be aftermarket. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 1:05:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Yeah, at first glance it looks like a MOE, but you can see what looks like a seam for a removable back strap. That leads me to believe it’s a MIAD. The trigger guard also appears to be aftermarket. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By Soopreme: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: I always thought this looked like an OD Magpul grip. https://i.postimg.cc/TPZh5Ndr/fcghnfgh.png Odg Magpul? Yeah, at first glance it looks like a MOE, but you can see what looks like a seam for a removable back strap. That leads me to believe it’s a MIAD. The trigger guard also appears to be aftermarket. It looks like he may have a couple non-standard items on his rifle. The stock looks like it's an MOE, compared to the CTR on the agent's rifle on the right. I'm pretty sure I can see the CTR locking clamp on the rifle on the right, while the one in the middle doesn't appear to have one (like the MOE). Maybe I've missed it somewhere in this long thread, but I don't recall MOE stocks mentioned as a normal option - usually CTR or original M4. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 2:43:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: It looks like he may have a couple non-standard items on his rifle. The stock looks like it's an MOE, compared to the CTR on the agent's rifle on the right. I'm pretty sure I can see the CTR locking clamp on the rifle on the right, while the one in the middle doesn't appear to have one (like the MOE). Maybe I've missed it somewhere in this long thread, but I don't recall MOE stocks mentioned as a normal option - usually CTR or original M4. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By Soopreme: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: I always thought this looked like an OD Magpul grip. https://i.postimg.cc/TPZh5Ndr/fcghnfgh.png Odg Magpul? Yeah, at first glance it looks like a MOE, but you can see what looks like a seam for a removable back strap. That leads me to believe it’s a MIAD. The trigger guard also appears to be aftermarket. It looks like he may have a couple non-standard items on his rifle. The stock looks like it's an MOE, compared to the CTR on the agent's rifle on the right. I'm pretty sure I can see the CTR locking clamp on the rifle on the right, while the one in the middle doesn't appear to have one (like the MOE). Maybe I've missed it somewhere in this long thread, but I don't recall MOE stocks mentioned as a normal option - usually CTR or original M4. I think I can see a latch, it’s depressed while the one on the right isn’t, making it more obvious. |
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Posted: 9/13/2020 2:51:03 PM EDT
[#45]
Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I think there would be a groove visible if it was an MOE stock, but it has that solid appearance when the CTR latch is locked in place. Never mind!
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Posted: 9/14/2020 9:22:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#46]
That’s what I think I’m seeing, but I can’t be sure.
Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I think there would be a groove visible if it was an MOE stock, but it has that solid appearance when the CTR latch is locked in place. Never mind! |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 9:24:18 PM EDT
[#47]
What’s a first gen rail go for these days?
I’m thinking about swapping mine out. |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 11:10:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: What’s a first gen rail go for these days? I’m thinking about swapping mine out. $350-$450 I think |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 11:57:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: What’s a first gen rail go for these days? I’m thinking about swapping mine out. @redcat2 was looking for one |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 5:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironcross: $350-$450 I think Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironcross: Originally Posted By Sputnik556: What’s a first gen rail go for these days? I’m thinking about swapping mine out. $350-$450 I think  I’m thinking a little harder now, that could go a long way towards another AK. 
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