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Posted: 3/26/2021 5:28:52 PM EDT
Two friends have told me they suffer from "out of spec" builds.  Is that so?

If they do, would it be better to just get a barrel from them?

Do they make their own barrels and bolts or is that another maker?
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 5:35:55 PM EDT
[#1]
If your friends are okay with bottom-of-the-barrel then go for it.  I would rather have a Palmetto or Smith and Wesson M&P.
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 5:47:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Not a fan...
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 6:06:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Can you guys be more specific?

My problem is I want a pistol in 5.45 x 39mm and barrels are hard to come from.
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 6:07:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Wouldn’t recommend them...
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 6:13:44 PM EDT
[#5]
My M1S bolt lasted longer than some Colt bolts....

Ain't like they have their own factory, parts all come from a few suppliers.
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 6:20:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Tier 3 bro.
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 6:31:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Epic story in Archives (now disabled) about Texas's own Gun Lawyer  (SCTexas" doing the 'VADER' on the Model 1 sales guy at a Gun Show ...

Reason enough I'd show elsewhere.

BIGGER_HAMMER

Link Posted: 3/26/2021 6:58:17 PM EDT
[#8]
I’ve never, in over a decade, had an issue with my Model1 upper.
I’ve also, unlike A LOT of people, never had my CC info breached after purchasing there.....
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 7:17:33 PM EDT
[#9]
I didn't think they made their own barrels.

A friend is a dealer, I'll speak with him again and see if he can assemble the upper for me.  If so, I'll just get the barrel and other parts from them, get him to assemble it.

Link Posted: 3/26/2021 7:37:07 PM EDT
[#10]
lol. I dont think there is a gun company around today with a worse rep. I actually assumed they had changed names 10 times since they were model 1.
Link Posted: 3/26/2021 8:26:23 PM EDT
[#11]
The 5.45 barrels are ER shaw and listed as being chrome lined. I'd risk an upper from them, but any other components should be from more reputable outfits.


Get good components and it "should" be OK, but read the warranty. Good luck on finding a 5.45 bolt anywhere.


You might give VTS a call, he was selling Adams Arms 5.45 piston uppers with 11.5 inch barrels that are nitrided, I have one and it's solid.
Link Posted: 3/29/2021 8:27:15 AM EDT
[#12]
I purchased a 7.5" barrel and a few small parts from them. Waited over 30 days, but what showed up was as expected. No complaints
Link Posted: 3/29/2021 9:50:44 AM EDT
[#13]
I bought a few complete uppers from them back before there were all the options we have today and no issues with them at all. The 20" HBAR I got is a tack driver.


Link Posted: 3/30/2021 12:43:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Thanks guys.

Will try and call upon VTS tomorrow.

Link Posted: 4/10/2021 8:37:29 PM EDT
[#15]
They have quietly supplied parts and such for major manufacturers and sponsors for quite a few years.  They aren't tier 1 but for most they will be fine.
Link Posted: 4/25/2021 1:59:03 AM EDT
[#16]
Had to get a new debit card because of their system being hacked, it’s happened to many people over time. Owner is a jerk.
Link Posted: 5/4/2021 5:25:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Would recommend finding someone else to buy from. I bought a 10.5" upper with Magpul MOE  handguard.  It failed to cycle every time i fired it. 3 mags,  Also when i changed the handguard the barrel indexing post snapped off. So i sent it back and got a refund. I cant speak to how they used to be but during the pandemic.  i received sub par product but good service and fast shipping.   actually great service. Yes only a few places actually make parts but place like MOdel1 and  their sister company in texas   typically buy the blemishes or the part that places like BCM and other Tier 1 companies pass on  because the dont meet their spec standards
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:05:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Wouldnt recomend them. I purchased an upper forr 155.00 after purchase they sent me an email that the upper price had changed to 215.00 and if I'd like it to let them know if I was o.k. with the price change. Same upper is still listed at 155.00 on there site.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:19:25 PM EDT
[#19]
I haven't bought anything from them in 20 years.  
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:20:43 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a Model 1 20" upper, A2 style. Not Mil-spec by any means, but it shoots fine.
Link Posted: 5/18/2021 9:24:17 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Two friends have told me they suffer from "out of spec" builds.  Is that so?

If they do, would it be better to just get a barrel from them?

Do they make their own barrels and bolts or is that another maker?
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Runnnnnawayyyyy
Link Posted: 5/18/2021 10:17:58 PM EDT
[#22]
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Wouldnt recomend them. I purchased an upper forr 155.00 after purchase they sent me an email that the upper price had changed to 215.00 and if I'd like it to let them know if I was o.k. with the price change. Same upper is still listed at 155.00 on there site.
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They did the exact same thing to me. Same part. Charged me for 255 while they were at it. Who does that? I would never have purchase it. Pretty unethical.
Link Posted: 5/19/2021 1:19:40 AM EDT
[#23]
I bought a A2 Model1 upper probably 30 years ago at a local GS. I had to adjust the sight to one side to get it zeroed. Only shot it a couple times.

A few years ago, tore it down and trued the face of the receiver and found it was high on one side.

Model1 is not top tier, but may be good enough...depends on what the price is. Just prepare yourself to fix or over look an issue.

Link Posted: 5/19/2021 1:21:12 AM EDT
[#24]
Double tap
Link Posted: 5/19/2021 2:55:32 AM EDT
[#25]
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If your friends are okay with bottom-of-the-barrel then go for it.  I would rather have a Palmetto or Smith and Wesson M&P.
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So if I just wanted a carry handle upper to scratch just the T2/Heat itch, I should be G2G with one?
Link Posted: 5/19/2021 7:48:59 AM EDT
[#26]
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So if I just wanted a carry handle upper to scratch just the T2/Heat itch, I should be G2G with one?
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Bro I just tried to do the same thing and they jacked the price up on me AFTER i purchased it. They could just update the price on the site. Because they’ve clearly been doing it for a while.

If I was you, I’d just keep looking. Never again for me.
Link Posted: 5/23/2021 3:46:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Model 1 has shipped the upper.....eager to see how lucky or unlucky I am.  

Definitely bought out of Biden fears but also, wanted another upper for my stock of 5.45.

WISH ME LUCK GUYS!
Link Posted: 5/25/2021 8:18:51 PM EDT
[#28]
GOT IT.

It looks pretty good.  Has a "lock-key"-like marking on upper, heavy barrel, chromed BCG and bolt head.  

Now to order a brace and put it together.  




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