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Originally Posted By doolz: @Combat_diver For the M4A1 Block 1's, what was the "correct" BUIS? Clone Rifles lists the Matech and KAC (assuming 200-600m) and there's debates all over that it was user preferred. @doolz Block I was originally issued with the KAC 300m BUIS. Others didn't come out till GWOT started. All depends on where in the timeline you want. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: @doolz Block I was originally issued with the KAC 300m BUIS. Others didn't come out till GWOT started. All depends on where in the timeline you want. How popular/liked were the Matechs? And was it a user preferred smorgasbord of those, KAC and LMT? |
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Originally Posted By doolz: How popular/liked were the Matechs? And was it a user preferred smorgasbord of those, KAC and LMT? MaTechs are a big Army BUIS and most common. The KACs 300 and 600 were always seem to be in short supply. Most guys just zero once then leave on and never use them as they used the optics. After all a BUIS. Big Army refers the MaTechs as fidget spinners as troops constantly finger fuk them when bored and wonder why they are broken. Its easier for me as an armorer to get MaTechs then KACs too. |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: MaTechs are a big Army BUIS and most common. The KACs 300 and 600 were always seem to be in short supply. Most guys just zero once then leave on and never use them as they used the optics. After all a BUIS. Big Army refers the MaTechs as fidget spinners as troops constantly finger fuk them when bored and wonder why they are broken. Its easier for me as an armorer to get MaTechs then KACs too. Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By doolz: How popular/liked were the Matechs? And was it a user preferred smorgasbord of those, KAC and LMT? MaTechs are a big Army BUIS and most common. The KACs 300 and 600 were always seem to be in short supply. Most guys just zero once then leave on and never use them as they used the optics. After all a BUIS. Big Army refers the MaTechs as fidget spinners as troops constantly finger fuk them when bored and wonder why they are broken. Its easier for me as an armorer to get MaTechs then KACs too. Guilty 
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Guilty Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By doolz: How popular/liked were the Matechs? And was it a user preferred smorgasbord of those, KAC and LMT? MaTechs are a big Army BUIS and most common. The KACs 300 and 600 were always seem to be in short supply. Most guys just zero once then leave on and never use them as they used the optics. After all a BUIS. Big Army refers the MaTechs as fidget spinners as troops constantly finger fuk them when bored and wonder why they are broken. Its easier for me as an armorer to get MaTechs then KACs too. Guilty I used to flick mine up and down constantly as a fidget.
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@Combat_Diver CD, or anyone with the knowledge of wisdom… What is the mount in these photos? I can’t find any research on it…. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By doolz: @Combat_Diver CD, or anyone with the knowledge of wisdom… What is the mount in these photos? I can’t find any research on it…. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5755_webp-3723085.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5733_jpeg-3723086.JPG Which mount? Looks like a gen 1 M68 mount and a possible gen 2 mount in the second picture. Are you talking about the PEQ or M68? |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Looks like a gen 1 M68 mount and a possible gen 2 mount in the second picture. Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By doolz: @Combat_Diver CD, or anyone with the knowledge of wisdom… What is the mount in these photos? I can’t find any research on it…. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5755_webp-3723085.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5733_jpeg-3723086.JPG Looks like a gen 1 M68 mount and a possible gen 2 mount in the second picture. 
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@TGWLDR @Combat_Diver Thank you both. I had ordered a Comp M2 from TAC but accidentally lost the mount that came with it moving to a new house. It was either the Rev 1 or Rev 2. Trying to find a replacement now. When were the Wilcox mounts put into use and which mounts was preferred? |
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Originally Posted By doolz: @TGWLDR @Combat_Diver Thank you both. I had ordered a Comp M2 from TAC but accidentally lost the mount that came with it moving to a new house. It was either the Rev 1 or Rev 2. Trying to find a replacement now. When were the Wilcox mounts put into use and which mounts was preferred? As far as I know only the Navy on the Mk18 Mod 0 used the Wilcox mount. All Army used the QRP in the M68 CCO kit as issued. Block I is started in 1995, M68 adopted by big Army around 97' and Mk18 Mod 0/CQBR early 2000s. Trivia: The Army adopted the Comp M in 1997, then Comp 2 in 2000, later the Comp4. All called the M68 CCO. My company A/1/5, used the Trijicon Reflex before we went to SFARTAETC (2 month CQB course), where we used the CompM during mid 97' Attached File CD |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
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Originally Posted By doolz: When were the Wilcox mounts put into use and which mounts was preferred? Preference would lean towards what you intend to clone, (Army/ Navy). The Wilcox were developed / issued late 1990s, specifically used with Aimpoint Comp M sights in the NSWC-Crane SOPMOD kit. ("ECOS-N" (Enhanced Combat Optical Sight - Navy) |
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I’m going with the M4A1 Block 1 based on Clone Rifles specs. Just tinkering with the optic setup and was never able to cement the answer until now. So it looks like I’m on the hunt for an AimPoint mount and I’ll return the Wilcox mount I have on order. Silly me purchased one of the Comp M2s from Thoroughbred and it came with the QRP Mount, scope cover and kill flash. And of course, silly me put the optic in a different box and it looks like I discarded the Mount while moving. |
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@doolz The Gen1 mount is flat at the base, and the later versions were angled. My understanding is that the Gen1 mount would crack at the base where the vertical met with the base, so the later version had more meat added at that point to prevent breaking. |
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Originally Posted By m24shooter: @doolz The Gen1 mount is flat at the base, and the later versions were angled. My understanding is that the Gen1 mount would crack at the base where the vertical met with the base, so the later version had more meat added at that point to prevent breaking. Just returned the Wilcox and ordered a QRP3 mount. Noticed the angle on it as well. I’m not a clone master by any means but the visual will be there. Thanks for the help! |
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Originally Posted By rbhoover: It's crazy to see this topic I started so many years ago still going strong! I guess I need to throw up some more pictures soon @rbhoover Probably a silly question and asked before but do you have any of the images from the first page? Is it possible to fix them? |
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Attached File Can anyone ID this mount? |
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Originally Posted By doolz: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5872_png-3730238.JPG Can anyone ID this mount? Mount for what? 
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Mount for what? Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By doolz: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5872_png-3730238.JPG Can anyone ID this mount? Mount for what? I believe he's asking about the mount for the light on the bottom of the rifle. I could be wrong of course. |
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Originally Posted By Tamarit_167: I believe he's asking about the mount for the light on the bottom of the rifle. I could be wrong of course. Originally Posted By Tamarit_167: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By doolz: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5872_png-3730238.JPG Can anyone ID this mount? Mount for what? I believe he's asking about the mount for the light on the bottom of the rifle. I could be wrong of course. If that's the case, it's the standard SF mount that comes with the light. |
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Originally Posted By Tamarit_167: I believe he's asking about the mount for the light on the bottom of the rifle. I could be wrong of course. Originally Posted By Tamarit_167: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By doolz: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/557146/IMG_5872_png-3730238.JPG Can anyone ID this mount? Mount for what? I believe he's asking about the mount for the light on the bottom of the rifle. I could be wrong of course. Possibly.  If so, I'm fairly certain that its a SureFire M49 Thumbscrew Mount. |
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Originally Posted By doolz: Yeah brain fart. Light mount. And it looks like it’s the SureFire mount. Trying to do some research on it now.  @doolz EBAY LINK |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Left Iraq earlier this week and making my way home. Been on this job since 2014' down range and closing the book. Need to spend time with the family and grandkids. CD Well deserved and enjoy! I need to take a pic of my sopmod carbine shew. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Left Iraq earlier this week and making my way home. Been on this job since 2014' down range and closing the book. Need to spend time with the family and grandkids. CD @Combat_Diver CD, You hanging up your hat? Done for good, or just a temporary hiatus? |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: @Combat_Diver CD, You hanging up your hat? Done for good, or just a temporary hiatus? Done from OCONUS work thats for sure. Can't sit still you all know that. |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
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This is my Block Iish M4. 1997 dated barrel, mostly Colt parts for the base gun except a PSA M4A1 lower for now, KAC M4RAS, Car stock with zip-tied pad. I have a few M68 bases--I need to find a deal on an M2. Gemtech mount (I know) is pinned. I have a ton of rounds through this thing. Always goes bang and hits what I'm pointing at. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Done from OCONUS work thats for sure. Can't sit still you all know that. Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: @Combat_Diver CD, You hanging up your hat? Done for good, or just a temporary hiatus? Done from OCONUS work thats for sure. Can't sit still you all know that.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Left Iraq earlier this week and making my way home. Been on this job since 2014' down range and closing the book. Need to spend time with the family and grandkids. CD Safe travels. Be well and take care of yourself. |
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Attached File Attached File Putting the good in Good Friday. It's a Block 1 party around here 
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Thundercat bumpAttached File Edit: Everything except the stock and mag came from the EE including: Sabre Defence XR15-A3 with 14.5 p/w, TA31RCO, MaTech BUIS, KAC RAS, P&S grip |
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I finally got most everything for the clone of the last carbine I was ever issued in the Navy for my last deployment ever. I think it fits in this SOPMOD category somewhere. I wanted a regular length upper so I could put it on my SBR lower to travel across state lines without paperwork so I bought a SOCOM profile barrel and had ADCO pIN and weld the regular extended A2 flasher on it. The original had a KAC NT4. KAC rail KAC 300 meter BUIS CQD End plate TD vertical grip Surefire scout B5 SOPMOD government issue stock I had to buy a sling as the one that came in the kit issued to me was a single point. Thankfully LBT still had a storefront at that time in VB. It’s an LBT Quick adjust with some shop mods. Attached to the side sling swivel up front and the CQD plate via Hk hook on the back. I have the Wilcox m68 mount just need to find an Aimpoint M2. Also need to find one of the early SOFTT and some rigger bands to attach it to the stock. The lower and obviously the guts are not the same as a real M4 but it’s about as close as I can get with the overall set up layout components. Below is as close as I can replicate to a NSW support guys (or gals) M4. Attached File Attached File Need a Mk25 to go with it. |
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Originally Posted By TNTundra16: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/591334/20260526_112355_jpg-3768903.JPG Clean, efficient. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499242/IMG_1504_jpeg-3769029.JPG Needs a RAS. Awesome start! The RAS is the GOAT of all quadrails! |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499242/IMG_1504_jpeg-3769029.JPG Needs a RAS. Shameless plug... There's one on the EE. Feel free to make an offer. I'm looking for a RIS II FSB for a block II. |
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