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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: I’m installing a mk1 redi-mag right now. Holy shit I know why no one uses these anymore. Looks cool though. I ran one back in the day when not many were using them. No much nicer than carrying a mag in your back pocket. I was confronted many times about having "a loaded weapon" by people that didn't know how to use their eyes. 
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Posted: 7/30/2022 12:18:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grizzlygunner999: I found a proper M68 QRP mount with spacer. Just need a side sling mount and a light.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/463612/20220728_181401_jpg-2468769.JPG  I need an M68 QRP too… damn it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 1:01:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grizzlygunner999: I found a proper M68 QRP mount with spacer. Just need a side sling mount and a light.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/463612/20220728_181401_jpg-2468769.JPG looks great, that QRP classic look...nice find 
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Posted: 7/30/2022 10:00:20 AM EDT
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Wish I could get the paint to match. The m68 aimpoint was the hotness for big army around 2000 by 2012 only POG's had them and everyone else was had ACOGs or Eotechs kinda funny.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 1:02:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grizzlygunner999: Wish I could get the paint to match. The m68 aimpoint was the hotness for big army around 2000 by 2012 only POG's had them and everyone else was had ACOGs or Eotechs kinda funny. It matches well enough, IMO. Then again, I kind of like the look of subtle color mismatches throughout rifles & their components. I’ve got an Aimpoint M68, but with a Wilcox rail ripper that I use on my Mk18 Mod 0. I want to move it to one of my M4s, but need a QRP mount. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 6:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: It matches well enough, IMO. Then again, I kind of like the look of subtle color mismatches throughout rifles & their components. I've got an Aimpoint M68, but with a Wilcox rail ripper that I use on my Mk18 Mod 0. I want to move it to one of my M4s, but need a QRP mount. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 9:37:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: I need an M68 QRP too… damn it. I have a brand new one as well as a brand new kac ras kit sitting in a drawer waiting on a block 1 build. I also have a m4 psa 3 round burst property of us gov lower waiting as well as when I got to 7th group my first block 1 was a m4 3 round burst not a m4a1.   
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:09:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: I have a brand new one as well as a brand new kac ras kit sitting in a drawer waiting on a block 1 build. I also have a m4 psa 3 round burst property of us gov lower waiting as well as when I got to 7th group my first block 1 was a m4 3 round burst not a m4a1. https://i.imgur.com/lNLvRtg.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/m5OLDa8.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/xteI01V.jpeg That commercial waffle stock won't look as good on your clone as a real colt or fn etc |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:12:36 PM EDT
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Besides the qrp and Wilcox. Was there any other mounts were used?
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IA, USA
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: That commercial waffle stock won't look as good on your clone as a real colt or fn etc Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: I have a brand new one as well as a brand new kac ras kit sitting in a drawer waiting on a block 1 build. I also have a m4 psa 3 round burst property of us gov lower waiting as well as when I got to 7th group my first block 1 was a m4 3 round burst not a m4a1. https://i.imgur.com/lNLvRtg.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/m5OLDa8.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/xteI01V.jpeg That commercial waffle stock won't look as good on your clone as a real colt or fn etc This. ^^^^ |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:27:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: That commercial waffle stock won't look as good on your clone as a real colt or fn etc Thats true, i plan on putting a gen 1 car stock on it like i had pn my issued rifle. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWZ1287: Besides the qrp and Wilcox. Was there any other mounts were used? I saw Some people used the La-rue m68 cco mount over the years as well as an arms mount. |
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Posted: 8/6/2022 9:45:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Posted: 8/13/2022 4:57:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: First m4 I was issued around 97 or 98 was a burst rifle with kac ris and m68, paq4, surefire 6p, and car stock. @tarheel7734 What mount was your M68 in on your first issued M4 referenced above? |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 6:48:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: @tarheel7734 What mount was your M68 in on your first issued M4 referenced above? It had the qrp if I remember correctly. |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 7:47:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: As an additional bit of anecdotal into, I was mechanized infantry for all but 2-3 years. The only optics I ever saw issued on our M4s and M4A1s were the M68 CCO, CompM4, TA-31 ACOG and Eotech 512. Some guys stole an M145 from a SAW in a couple cases, but that's it from the units I was in. ACOGs with RMRs were rare for us, but around. 2007-2019 While looking for photos of LPVOs on block 1s &/or 1.5s I stumbled on this (above) a few pages back. I’m not military and have quite possibly been living under a rock, but I had never heard that EOTech 512s were actually issued. Tell me more… ETA: photos would be even better (Google hates me) |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 8:50:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: While looking for photos of LPVOs on block 1s &/or 1.5s I stumbled on this (above) a few pages back. I'm not military and have quite possibly been living under a rock, but I had never heard that EOTech 512s were actually issued. Tell me more ETA: photos would be even better (Google hates me) SOPMOD block 1s/ PRs (one courtesy of CD)  Attached File Attached FileM4/A1 MWS (aka Big ARMY)  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 9:29:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: While looking for photos of LPVOs on block 1s &/or 1.5s I stumbled on this (above) a few pages back. I’m not military and have quite possibly been living under a rock, but I had never heard that EOTech 512s were actually issued. Tell me more… ETA: photos would be even better (Google hates me) As pictured above is my M4A1 with EoTech 552 as it had the NV feature. Its an older model that we got new in 04'. Seem to remember we had a choice to choose from EoTech 552, Aimpoint M68 or C-More. Thing I didn't like about the C-More was the lack of adjustment clicks as there was NONE. You had to guess when making adjustments zeroing. I tried as pictured the EoTech on my M4A1 in several positions and also inline with my ACOG TA01NSN. Ended up putting the EoTech on my M14 NM. Used a SA Scout mount to have it forward mounted. Since the M14 doesn't have room for a PEQ-2, I ran my PVS-7Ds on helmet and Eotech on NV mode. Eotech was mounted forward enough to work. I'll post a picture of the M14 w/Eotech later. ACOG would stay on my M4A1 and my M68 would go on my Bulgarian AK-47 CD |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 10:11:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Posted: 8/13/2022 10:15:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Sep 05'
TA01NSN on M4A1 and M68 on Bulgarian AKM  Attached FileM4A1 with Eotech 552 forward. Different Eotech as this one has buttons on side. Compare to 552 on M14 above where controls are in back.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 10:21:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AWZ1287]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: M14 NM with SA Scout rail and Eotech 552 forward mounted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/M14_2_pcs_brass_jpg-2487401.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/M14_01_jpg-2487404.JPG That is awesome. Did the eotech have any issues, I've heard the m14 is rough on optics. |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 10:40:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWZ1287: That is awesome. Did the eotech have any issues, I've heard the m14 is rough on optics. Not on the M14. Only used it for a few months. Used the same M14 NM at All Army Matches at Benning shooting it with irons/sling at 600, 800 and 1000 yds in 06'. CD |
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Posted: 8/13/2022 11:06:30 AM EDT
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Oh cool. I've been debating about putting a red dot on my m1a.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 7:35:49 PM EDT
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Picked up a RAS from the EE. Thought I had more 11 rib panels but I must have given them all away.
 Also found an old #40 rear sight I bought back in 2006 when I was in high school for my airsoft m4a1. Might just go with this and an old 552.  |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 7:42:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: Picked up a RAS from the EE. Thought I had more 11 rib panels but I must have given them all away. https://i.imgur.com/B98YW48.jpg Also found an old #40 rear sight I bought back in 2006 when I was in high school for my airsoft m4a1. Might just go with this and an old 552. https://i.imgur.com/4AFWZSX.jpg I've got an extra panel if you want it. shoot me dm if so. Also - Is that sight made out of playdough? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:40:02 PM EDT
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Just listed my clone on the EE https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Colt-M4-CARBINE-LE6920-With-KAC-M4-RAS/21-2278409/
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:35:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrFrZZ: I've got an extra panel if you want it. shoot me dm if so. Also - Is that sight made out of playdough? Thanks for the offer. I actually don’t even need the bottom half of the RAS. 
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Posted: 8/17/2022 3:57:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Posted: 8/17/2022 5:15:43 PM EDT
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Anyone have a lead for a QRP or Wilcox mount?
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Posted: 8/17/2022 5:23:29 PM EDT
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I might be wrong but isn’t the PRI mount also legit? It’s a Wilcox clone basically and easily had from their website
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Posted: 8/17/2022 6:43:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: Anyone have a lead for a QRP or Wilcox mount? https://www.armsunlimited.com/Wilcox-Aimpoint-Comp-M-Series-30mm-Sight-Mount-p/13600g01.htm |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 7:52:36 PM EDT
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I'm sure this has already been covered at some point, but what is the most correct forward sling mount for a true M4A1 Block I? Side mount or standard under FSB?
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:05:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beastman: I'm sure this has already been covered at some point, but what is the most correct forward sling mount for a true M4A1 Block I? Side mount or standard under FSB? Only side that I'm aware of besides maybe XM4. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 2:39:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beastman: I'm sure this has already been covered at some point, but what is the most correct forward sling mount for a true M4A1 Block I? Side mount or standard under FSB? Always had the side mounted swivel. During rebarrels, armor would have to punch out FSB sling swivel rivet. As barrel assembly came with it. CD |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 4:35:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2022 10:47:23 PM EDT
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    Just fabulous as usual. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 11:25:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/21/2022 4:02:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthGuy]
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Old build from 7 years ago. This one had a SOCOM barrel. F photobucket.
  
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Posted: 8/23/2022 6:33:44 PM EDT
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ive always regretted selling my 6921 block 1/1.5 set up and have been planning on doing another build ever since.
I just picked up a complete Colt 14.5 socom upper, but the more i look at it, the more i hate the factory extended flash hider. Anyone else feel the same way? Im tempted to just remove it and throw on a SF 4 prong. Here is what im thinking of doing, if i keep the extended FH, use my Colt waffle stock, m951 light, and look for an aimpoint in a wilcox mount (or qrp mount). If i swap to a 4 prong, use an extra gen 1 sopmod stock, su-233 light, and an fde exps3-0--then might as well through in a PRI gas buster, and CQD sling mounts. The other issue torn on is the lower itself. I have multiple LPK's, just dont have an extra lower--and colts are super hard to come by or are crazy expensive here in CA. Id probably be looking to get a cheap, little to no logo one locally. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 6:39:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: THEdtw]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: ive always regretted selling my 6921 block 1/1.5 set up and have been planning on doing another build ever since. I just picked up a complete Colt 14.5 socom upper, but the more i look at it, the more i hate the factory extended flash hider. Anyone else feel the same way? Im tempted to just remove it and throw on a SF 4 prong. Here is what im thinking of doing, if i keep the extended FH, use my Colt waffle stock, m951 light, and look for an aimpoint in a wilcox mount (or qrp mount). If i swap to a 4 prong, use an extra gen 1 sopmod stock, su-233 light, and an fde exps3-0--then might as well through in a PRI gas buster, and CQD sling mounts. The other issue torn on is the lower itself. I have multiple LPK's, just dont have an extra lower--and colts are super hard to come by or are crazy expensive here in CA. Id probably be looking to get a cheap, little to no logo one locally. My current production socom upper was quite easy to grind down and remove the pin. I say go for it. 
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Posted: 8/23/2022 9:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THEdtw: My current production socom upper was quite easy to grind down and remove the pin. I say go for it. https://i.imgur.com/MYHMHoC.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THEdtw: Originally Posted By RichieRich562: ive always regretted selling my 6921 block 1/1.5 set up and have been planning on doing another build ever since. I just picked up a complete Colt 14.5 socom upper, but the more i look at it, the more i hate the factory extended flash hider. Anyone else feel the same way? Im tempted to just remove it and throw on a SF 4 prong. Here is what im thinking of doing, if i keep the extended FH, use my Colt waffle stock, m951 light, and look for an aimpoint in a wilcox mount (or qrp mount). If i swap to a 4 prong, use an extra gen 1 sopmod stock, su-233 light, and an fde exps3-0--then might as well through in a PRI gas buster, and CQD sling mounts. The other issue torn on is the lower itself. I have multiple LPK's, just dont have an extra lower--and colts are super hard to come by or are crazy expensive here in CA. Id probably be looking to get a cheap, little to no logo one locally. My current production socom upper was quite easy to grind down and remove the pin. I say go for it. https://i.imgur.com/MYHMHoC.jpeg That looks really good. Makes me want to put a 4 prong on mine so I can run my RC2.  |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 10:02:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: That looks really good. Makes me want to put a 4 prong on mine so I can run my RC2. https://i.imgur.com/11LyIUG.jpg You can run a 212a on it and it be a clone correct or even a sfct. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 2:02:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: ive always regretted selling my 6921 block 1/1.5 set up and have been planning on doing another build ever since. I just picked up a complete Colt 14.5 socom upper, but the more i look at it, the more i hate the factory extended flash hider. Anyone else feel the same way? Im tempted to just remove it and throw on a SF 4 prong. Here is what im thinking of doing, if i keep the extended FH, use my Colt waffle stock, m951 light, and look for an aimpoint in a wilcox mount (or qrp mount). If i swap to a 4 prong, use an extra gen 1 sopmod stock, su-233 light, and an fde exps3-0--then might as well through in a PRI gas buster, and CQD sling mounts. The other issue torn on is the lower itself. I have multiple LPK's, just dont have an extra lower--and colts are super hard to come by or are crazy expensive here in CA. Id probably be looking to get a cheap, little to no logo one locally. I have added SF4P to block 1.5s. Pictures from down range are posted in here somewhere. Suggest looking for a PSA M4A1 clone lower if you don't want a Colt. CD |
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Posted: 8/28/2022 9:45:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grizzlygunner999: I found a proper M68 QRP mount with spacer. Just need a side sling mount and a light.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/463612/20220728_181401_jpg-2468769.JPG Love the paint job. |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 8:07:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Made in 1994 first year production of the M4/M4A1. Gun serviced and inspected in Afghanistan fall of 2019. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8546_JPG-2413598.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8545_JPG-2413599.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8544_JPG-2413600.JPG CD Forgive me if this is common knowledge but why is the cage code in pic #2 19207 instead of Colts cage code? The part number seems to be Colts # for the M4 carbine. |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 8:36:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yorge9003: Forgive me if this is common knowledge but why is the cage code in pic #2 19207 instead of Colts cage code? The part number seems to be Colts # for the M4 carbine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yorge9003: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Made in 1994 first year production of the M4/M4A1. Gun serviced and inspected in Afghanistan fall of 2019. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8546_JPG-2413598.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8545_JPG-2413599.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8544_JPG-2413600.JPG CD Forgive me if this is common knowledge but why is the cage code in pic #2 19207 instead of Colts cage code? The part number seems to be Colts # for the M4 carbine. CAGE Code 19207 U.S. ARMY TANK-AUTOMOTIVE & ARMAMENTS COMMAND. (TACOM ). I cannot say why it's marked as such. Also, as you stated: NSN: 1005-01-231-0973 Noun: M4 Carbine 5.56mm PN: 9390000 |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 9:27:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: CAGE Code 19207 U.S. ARMY TANK-AUTOMOTIVE & ARMAMENTS COMMAND. (TACOM ). I cannot say why it's marked as such. Also, as you stated: NSN: 1005-01-231-0973 Noun: M4 Carbine 5.56mm PN: 9390000 Thanks! I just noticed it because I zoomed in to read the part number. I was curious if an M4 converted to M4A1 and re stamped would still use the M4 pn or the M4A1 pn. I'm building a block 1 clone and my Colt lower is marked M4 Carbine. I was debating on the M4 or M4A1 pn for my uid tag. I was thinking about the different cage code and I wonder if it's because thats where it was converted from an M4 to M4A1 spec? |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 2:44:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yorge9003: Forgive me if this is common knowledge but why is the cage code in pic #2 19207 instead of Colts cage code? The part number seems to be Colts # for the M4 carbine. Probably just didn't get updated and unit armorer doesn't know to change it. CD |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 4:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yorge9003: Forgive me if this is common knowledge but why is the cage code in pic #2 19207 instead of Colts cage code? The part number seems to be Colts # for the M4 carbine. TACOM does those m4 to m4a1 conversions and its possible they tagged it when doing the conversion? |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 2:59:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: 2) which is more clone correct the utg tri rail or the ergo and is the utg tri rail kosher? I’m so ocd the drooping of the ergo might drive me insane I'm That way too, but saw enough ITW pics of the droop, so I'm good.  not my pic https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49253808413_97ecc5ab64_c.jpg I have been talking to many people about the ergo rail extension and it's a love/hate relationship, mine was severely canted but I contacted ergo and I sent it back and they sent me a new one with no can't. I know there are better options out there but for a usmc recon m4 clone this is what is used alot. I also may have an idea for guys who want this type of clone but don't want the droopy rail . |
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