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3/13/2008 9:43:58 PM EDT
[#1]

Originally Posted By FITTER:
The KAC M5 will fit over the HBAR.

I used a Sabre Defence A4 upper with "F" FSB and 1:7" Gov't profile for my clone:

i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Pat_Sajac/Weapons/A4jpeg.jpg

Never mind the Reflex; it's all I had lying around. Admittedly it does give a better sight picture mounted on the receiver, but I wanted the carry handle on there in lieu of a BUIS. Maybe I'll upgrade in the near future if all goes well... I'll have to choose a BUIS and an optic. I've tried the EOTECH and I liked it, so I'll most likely go that route.


How are those reflex sights? Are they bright? They look pretty tough. I've been looking at them for a while.
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3/13/2008 9:53:04 PM EDT
[#2]

Originally Posted By 0612Devil:

Originally Posted By Slimbone:
I am now officially a member of the club.  The brown truck just dropped off my upper.  I attempted to install the RAS M5 and it does not fit over the HBAR.  Looks like it will be heading to ADCO for a trip on their lathe.

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c183/Slimbone/DSC00113.jpg



Looks great so far.  Trust me, you'll be impressed with the weight savings.  A .gov profile 20" with irons is a very well balanced rifle.  


I'm sure I will.  I was very surprised how much the HBAR weighed.
3/15/2008 1:26:54 PM EDT
[#3]

Originally Posted By Beltfedleadhead:

Originally Posted By FITTER:
The KAC M5 will fit over the HBAR.

I used a Sabre Defence A4 upper with "F" FSB and 1:7" Gov't profile for my clone:

i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Pat_Sajac/Weapons/A4jpeg.jpg

Never mind the Reflex; it's all I had lying around. Admittedly it does give a better sight picture mounted on the receiver, but I wanted the carry handle on there in lieu of a BUIS. Maybe I'll upgrade in the near future if all goes well... I'll have to choose a BUIS and an optic. I've tried the EOTECH and I liked it, so I'll most likely go that route.


How are those reflex sights? Are they bright? They look pretty tough. I've been looking at them for a while.


It's bright enough, and the reticle gets brighter when supplemented by ambient light coming in the front. The thing is, the sight itself seems to absorb a certain amount of target brightness making the target area look darker, and when in a darker area looking toward a light-colored target the reticle can become washed out. I have the polarizer and the Killflash diffuser for it, but they cut down on the amount of light passing through the sight even more, so I don't use them. I will admit that the sight works much better mounted on the receiver rather than where it is in the photo.

Target acquisition is fast, and under the right conditions the sight is pretty decent, but I don't find it suitable for the above-mentioned reasons. I like the reticle, and I intend to keep this optic, but I am looking toward getting an Eotech at this point, having already tried one on someone else's weapon. I was pleased with the Eotech's ability to change brightness. If Trijicon made a battery-powered version of this sight I'd probably buy one. I do know that there is a version that accepts mini Cyalume sticks for additional brightness.

www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon-rx09-reflex-night-sight-amber-chevron-reticle.html
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3/24/2008 2:37:16 AM EDT
[#4]
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3/24/2008 3:06:03 AM EDT
[#5]

Originally Posted By joelad:
Here's my contribution. I apologoze for the crappy pics.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/joelad/P1010518.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/joelad/P1010519.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/joelad/P1010520.jpg


Very, VERY nice sir.  I love A4 clones.
3/24/2008 10:23:56 AM EDT
[#6]
Keeping this a pic thread.


A Bushmaster A4 clone. Still haven't decided on an optic.
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling a pig. After a while you'll figure out he likes it.
3/25/2008 1:16:43 AM EDT
[#7]
Real deal. Threw in pics of it next to my buddies MK12 and one of my favorite heavy machine guns.


3/25/2008 9:21:04 AM EDT
[#8]

Originally Posted By Lenaburg:
Real deal. Threw in pics of it next to my buddies MK12 and one of my favorite heavy machine guns.
img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/STORMINAZ/DSC00133.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/STORMINAZ/DSC00139.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/STORMINAZ/DSC00135.jpg



Very nice.  Get some more pics of that Mk12 and get it into the Mk12 picture thread ASAP!!  
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3/25/2008 2:21:25 PM EDT
[#9]
I already put the MK12 pics there.
3/25/2008 2:46:51 PM EDT
[#10]

Originally Posted By Lenaburg:
I already put the MK12 pics there.



Yep, my bad.  Saw them this morning.  Look great.
To the unnamed member who purchased this Team Membership for me, thank you very much...
3/25/2008 3:00:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ReefRaider][Edited] [#11]
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" Don't shoot them till you think their dead shoot them till they think their dead " unknown
3/29/2008 3:15:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend



First smiles, then lies, and last gunfire.
3/29/2008 3:16:03 PM EDT
[#13]
Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend



First smiles, then lies, and last gunfire.
3/29/2008 3:16:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend



First smiles, then lies, and last gunfire.
3/29/2008 3:17:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Picking up a Colt 1911 is like shaking hands with an old friend



First smiles, then lies, and last gunfire.
3/31/2008 6:28:43 PM EDT
[#16]
Would someone have a real good pic of the M16A4 roll mark ?
" Don't shoot them till you think their dead shoot them till they think their dead " unknown
4/5/2008 11:22:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71][Edited] [#17]
This is the base for my first M16A4 Clone Build. It's nothing special right now - just a Bushmaster XM15E2S with a 1 in 7" twist gov profile barrel.

Overall base pic...
Attached File

Barrel markings...
Attached File


I look forward to building her up though...Any Suggestions?FlDiveCop71
One is just never enough...
4/6/2008 7:37:47 PM EDT
[#18]
Do you plan on optics ?
" Don't shoot them till you think their dead shoot them till they think their dead " unknown
4/6/2008 7:47:53 PM EDT
[#19]
On another Colt lower

" Don't shoot them till you think their dead shoot them till they think their dead " unknown
4/7/2008 1:42:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71][Edited] [#20]
Originally Posted By ReefRaider:
Do you plan on optics ?
View Quote
I'm not sure who you're directing your question toward, but I plan to add (or change) the following items on my A4 Build:

KAC M5 RAS w/rail covers finished. (M5 Mil Pack)
NSN ACOG w/Kill-flash finished.
Either a KAC or Tango Down VFG got it / done. (KAC)
Buttstock Mag Pouch * got it / done (went with Eagle's M-16SP-OD)
3-Point type sling * got it / done (went with Eagle's TAS-01-OD)
MATECH Rear BUIS Done.
Aluminum Trigger Guard Assembly (to replace the current plastic one) fixed / done
Surefire Weaponlight w/IR Filter Done.
ITT AN/PVS-14D
and lastly...(if possible) a DBAL-I2 Laser Designator/Sight Done (Went with a AN/PEQ-2A)

I'm sure it will be at least a year before I get it anywhere near being complete, and by then I'm sure there will be something else out there to be had, but oh well...That's life.
I do what I can...

FlDiveCop71

ETA'd for progress...


*unsure as to what type/brand/ect I'll go with just yet. went with Eagle Industries products.
One is just never enough...
4/7/2008 4:30:58 AM EDT
[#21]
try a 3pt sling before you buy....I thought I'd like one, turned out I hated it.  Felt like I was wrestling a damn octopus with all the webbing around me.  Went back to the tried and true 2 pt sing.  I even made one that was based on the Rocky Mountain Tactical sing so I can have a 1pt if I want it or a 2pt, though I quickly realized that I never used it in 1pt mode since it hit me in the balls when moving around with the rifle slung and the muzzle flopped around to much.
4/7/2008 6:52:06 AM EDT
[#22]
Here is my A4 clone

4/9/2008 3:55:48 PM EDT
[#23]
Bump to keep this out of the archives.
4/10/2008 4:11:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71][Edited] [#24]

Originally Posted By FiveseveNDoubletaP:
Bump to keep this out of the archives.


Last post was on 4/7....It didn't need to be bumped yet.

FlDiveCop71
One is just never enough...
4/11/2008 1:04:57 AM EDT
[#25]
awesome thread, I'm more into the retro rifles, but I am looking at at either an A4 clone or M16A2 clone. Will probably go with the A2, what I am issued in USAF, I wish they gave us A4s
4/15/2008 9:27:52 PM EDT
[#26]
My full sized rifle. I figured it was time to put something besides a m4 togather. I took a post ban Bushmaster I got at a show and sold the post ban barrel and semi BCG and ordered a chrome lined Bushy 1/7 govt barrel and added a LMT m16 BCG and replaced that plastic trigger guard with a CMT one. It turned out to be very accurate. One inch at 100 yards with my LC m855. Same with my reloaded m855 pulled bullets.



4/16/2008 2:29:29 AM EDT
[#27]
This thread needs to be tagged
4/16/2008 11:22:16 AM EDT
[#28]
Here is mine, needs a vertical grip
4/16/2008 1:02:16 PM EDT
[#29]
I just got my pics' hosted again, so here is my A4 clone.



TANT QUE JE PUIS
4/16/2008 3:12:54 PM EDT
[#30]
Not quite a clone...

4/16/2008 4:54:12 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By gen1runner:
Not quite a clone...

i32.tinypic.com/33oi2du.jpg



indeed not.

I have to get me one of those slings and a mag pouch now.
4/18/2008 10:31:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scottrh2][Edited] [#32]
Might as well put mine on.
CMMG lower with a Cav arms A1 stock that has a A2 plate and MAID grip.
Rock River upper that came from Cardinal forge.
FNMI A4 barrel, FN bolt and FN bolt carrier.
MATECH BUIS, Aimpoint ML2 on a LaRue mount and Aimpoint 3X on LaRue mount.
Knights M5 system.
Rock solid build and likes to put rounds in the same hole.


4/20/2008 8:30:10 PM EDT
[#33]


Almost in final configuration

Bushmaster Lower
CMMG Upper w/ Government Profile Barrel
RRA 2 Stage Trigger
Daniel Defense 12" Rail
TA31F ACOG
ARMS 40L
MIAD Grip
Ambi Safety
Votex Flash Suppressor

Just need to get a LaRue Mount for the ACOG and I'll be done.
4/20/2008 11:29:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Brings back memories.  I carried one of these in basic.  Now I want to build one.

I already have a Stag lower complete, and I'm ordering a Stag 20" upper w/ carry handle soon.

Now I just need to find an M5 RAS.  Anybody know where I can get one at military discount?

What are the plastic pieces for on the rail system just rearward of the FSB?
4/20/2008 11:30:52 PM EDT
[#35]

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:
Brings back memories.  I carried one of these in basic.  Now I want to build one.

I already have a Stag lower complete, and I'm ordering a Stag 20" upper w/ carry handle soon.

Now I just need to find an M5 RAS.  Anybody know where I can get one at military discount?

What are the plastic pieces for on the rail system just rearward of the FSB?



You can get a crazy discount on the EE.  They pop up all the time and go for around the mid to upper 100's.  Not a bad price at all compared to retail...
To the unnamed member who purchased this Team Membership for me, thank you very much...
4/21/2008 12:03:49 AM EDT
[#36]
RRA 20" A4



4/22/2008 11:22:41 AM EDT
[#37]

Originally Posted By gen1runner:
Not quite a clone...

i32.tinypic.com/33oi2du.jpg


What kind of sling is that?
4/22/2008 11:47:34 AM EDT
[#38]

Originally Posted By M4DS:

Originally Posted By gen1runner:
Not quite a clone...

i32.tinypic.com/33oi2du.jpg


What kind of sling is that?



3 point, spectre gear brand I think. Was issued it about a year ago.
4/22/2008 11:48:23 AM EDT
[#39]

Originally Posted By gen1runner:

Originally Posted By M4DS:

Originally Posted By gen1runner:
Not quite a clone...

i32.tinypic.com/33oi2du.jpg


What kind of sling is that?



3 point, spectre gear brand I think. Was issued it about a year ago.


Thanks man, I will make a note of it in case I want to get an A4 CLONE later.  
4/22/2008 12:29:46 PM EDT
[#40]
To keep the thread going here is some older pics' of mine before I put the Eagle sling, mag pouch, and TA-31RCO/A4 on there.









TANT QUE JE PUIS
4/27/2008 7:26:26 AM EDT
[#41]
btt
4/27/2008 8:51:19 PM EDT
[#42]

Originally Posted By gen1runner:
Not quite a clone...

i32.tinypic.com/33oi2du.jpg


Please just one close up of the roll mark
" Don't shoot them till you think their dead shoot them till they think their dead " unknown
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4/27/2008 8:54:50 PM EDT
[#43]

Originally Posted By M4A1OwnsYou:

What are the plastic pieces for on the rail system just rearward of the FSB?


I believe that  would come off to mount a M203
" Don't shoot them till you think their dead shoot them till they think their dead " unknown
"There is a fine line between having balls and being a dumb ass" GB
4/28/2008 9:36:57 PM EDT
[#44]


4/28/2008 9:45:21 PM EDT
[#45]

Originally Posted By scottrh2:
Might as well put mine on.
CMMG lower with a Cav arms A1 stock that has a A2 plate and MAID grip.
Rock River upper that came from Cardinal forge.
FNMI A4 barrel, FN bolt and FN bolt carrier.
MATECH BUIS, Aimpoint ML2 on a LaRue mount and Aimpoint 3X on LaRue mount.
Knights M5 system.
Rock solid build and likes to put rounds in the same hole.
i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/amynruss/Blackgun004.jpg


Will the 3X clear the Matech when mounted?  I'm contemplating adding a magnifier to my setup.
4/28/2008 9:51:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Yes, it clears with no problem.
4/29/2008 12:53:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Nice looking rifles.  I saw this pic and thought that any of you who served would probably enjoy it as much as I do...

"There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion."--UNKNOWN
4/30/2008 12:02:42 PM EDT
[#48]

Originally Posted By SgtKiwi:
Nice looking rifles.  I saw this pic and thought that any of you who served would probably enjoy it as much as I do...

i28.tinypic.com/19165h.jpg


hehe, the classic "patrol/field sling". I always took that one step further and used a wider machinegun sling for max comfort.
TANT QUE JE PUIS
4/30/2008 3:39:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: new_ak_fan][Edited] [#49]
anyone got a source for "F" marked front sights?

Edit: how about vortex FH?  Ever used on A4s?
4/30/2008 4:29:32 PM EDT
[#50]

Originally Posted By new_ak_fan:
anyone got a source for "F" marked front sights?

Edit: how about vortex FH?  Ever used on A4s?


Bravo Co.

but I got mine from EE

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