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Originally Posted By breastroker:
Just finished two builds, the 204 Ruger (18" WC) came in at 5.2 pounds and the 556 came in at 3.16 pounds. Complete 556 upper 2.278 pounds or 36.45 ounces, total weight right now is 3.16 pounds. Have to get to 48 ounces to be @ 3 pounds. Think I can get a lighter muzzle brake, a lighter CF handguard and a lighter pistol grip. Maybe a lighter buffer too. Upper: Polymer upper receiver @ 4.10 ounces Titanium brake @ 1.2 oz. Faxon Ultra light weight 556 1:7 twist 16 inch mid length barrel. @ 19.4 ounces Whiskey Arms lite carrier 3.91 ounces Rubber City adjustable carrier key bolt+ titanium firing pin+ cam pin + 2.04 ounces (BCG 5.95 oz.) Cobra Tactical 9 inch Mid 2.4 ounces plus 1.00 oz. Clark Custom bbl. nut = 3.40 oz. with 3 titanium screws 2A 0.625 titanium gas block 0.65 generic charging handle 1.15 oz Lower: Complete lower @ 14.10 ounces New Frontier lower NF polymer down pins Smoker Composites buffer tube/ stock generic spring generic buffer Accu-group trigger (polymer) Mag K @ 1.7 oz V7 Ti grip screw http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/Upper36.45oz_zps5v4aefc9.jpg http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/PolyLowerComplete14.10oz_zpsfzmza8g4.jpg View Quote Hey there. Nice gun. You mentioned getting a new comp. I just bought a couple titanium comps, one 308 and one 5.56. They 5.56 comes in around .9 oz. And the thing works. I just found this company a little over a month ago. If I'm not mistaken it was around 59.00 for the raw and raw is fine because I'm going to paint it. Venom Defense. I'll send a pic. It looks brutal as well!!! Keep rocking!!! |
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"Don't be upset by the results you didn't get with the work you didn't do."
Team Ranstad SpyderNation #0086 Fairfax County, VA CERT #86 |
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Anybody heard of a stark grip, the one without the trigger guard? And if so how much does it weigh????
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love some lightweight builds. You could save .3 oz with the barrel a 2a LW barrel is 19.1OZ this alone would put you sub 3 pounds.
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Public Service Announcement: 7lbs isn't a lightweight gun. That's a standard weight range for an AR. Just as a guideline, under 6 is starting to get light, but really, if you're not under 5, you're just proud of your rifle and want to post pics.
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Originally Posted By eodinert:
Public Service Announcement: 7lbs isn't a lightweight gun. That's a standard weight range for an AR. Just as a guideline, under 6 is starting to get light, but really, if you're not under 5, you're just proud of your rifle and want to post pics. View Quote |
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No good will come from me fighting your war....-John Carter
God is Great, He just doesn't cater to goat fuckers.... |
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Originally Posted By rhaney02:
Thanks for your contribution. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rhaney02:
Originally Posted By eodinert:
Public Service Announcement: 7lbs isn't a lightweight gun. That's a standard weight range for an AR. Just as a guideline, under 6 is starting to get light, but really, if you're not under 5, you're just proud of your rifle and want to post pics. |
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Does anyone know if Fostech is still going to be selling that 3.5lb AR?
The Mrs. would definitely shoot more if she had a 3.5lb AR. ETA: On topic, I just put this together. 5.8lbs, I am still waiting on a set of Troy micro buis that will absolute co-witness the low-pro RMR. Not digging the feel of the paracord tube wrap, so I have a foam cover coming. Attached File Spikes lwr, magpul furniture, PSA 8.5" .300 upr, 7" M-Lok rail, Spikes lightened NiBr bcg, SSA-E trigger, ADM LH QD RMR mount and RMR. |
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Triggers With Attitude
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I know there are some lightweight ARs out there:
Faxon -- 4 lbs, 15 oz for ~$2000: https://faxonfirearms.com/fx5500-ultralight-ar15/ Wilson Combat -- 6 lbs, 11 oz for ~$2000: https://www.wilsoncombat.com/tactical-lightweight/ But it's possible to get a lightweight AR without breaking the bank. Here are two nearly identical budget builds: Upper Assembly: Palmetto State Armory (PSA) - Caliber: 5.56x45mm - Barrel: 16", Government/M4 Profile - Gas System: Midlength - Handguard: Magpul MOE M-LOK hand guard, mid-length - Upper Receiver: PSA - Bolt Carrier Group (BCG): PSA - Charging Handle: PSA - Rear Sight: UTG BUIS Lower Assembly: Anderson/PSA - Caliber: Multi - Lower Receiver: Anderson - Lower Parts Kit: PSA - Grip: Resurgent Arms featureless grip - Buffer Tube Assembly: PSA - Stock: Magpul MOE carbine stock Total Weight: 6 pounds, 11.5 ounces Upper Assembly: Palmetto State Armory (PSA) - Caliber: 5.56x45mm - Barrel: 16", Pencil Profile - Gas System: Midlength - Handguard: PSA standard CAR-15 handguards - Upper Receiver: PSA - Bolt Carrier Group (BCG): PSA - Charging Handle: PSA - Rear Sight: UTG BUIS Lower Assembly: Anderson/PSA - Caliber: Multi - Lower Receiver: Anderson - Lower Parts Kit: PSA - Grip: Resurgent Arms featureless grip - Buffer Tube Assembly: PSA - Stock: Blackhawk Knoxx stock Total Weight: 6 pounds, 1.5 ounces ********** Where did those 10 ounces come from? ~5.5 ounces saved by moving from government/M4-barrel profile to pencil barrel profile: ~2.0 ounces saved by moving from Magpul M-LOK to standard handguards: ~2.5 ounces saved by moving from Magpul carbine stock to Blackhawk Knoxx stock: (The weight difference was only ~1 ounce at first, but I removed the sling swivel to save more weight.) Here's the kicker though. Total cost to make these modifications? $0 dollars. If you shop right, pencil barrels can be just as cheap as "regular" government/M4 barrel profiles, M-LOK handguards actually cost more than standard handguards, and the Blackhawk stock comes with budget lower build kits. Obviously, going from seven pounds to six pounds is quite a bit easier than going from six pounds to five pounds -- but I hope I've demonstrated that 1) ounces start to add up and 2) you can cut weight cheaply. |
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thats alot of panels
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Originally Posted By butlers:
I know there are some lightweight ARs out there: Faxon -- 4 lbs, 15 oz for ~$2000: https://faxonfirearms.com/fx5500-ultralight-ar15/ Wilson Combat -- 6 lbs, 11 oz for ~$2000: https://www.wilsoncombat.com/tactical-lightweight/ But it's possible to get a lightweight AR without breaking the bank. Here are two nearly identical budget builds: https://i.imgur.com/rNRXTXo.jpg Upper Assembly: Palmetto State Armory (PSA) - Caliber: 5.56x45mm - Barrel: 16", Government/M4 Profile - Gas System: Midlength - Handguard: Magpul MOE M-LOK hand guard, mid-length - Upper Receiver: PSA - Bolt Carrier Group (BCG): PSA - Charging Handle: PSA - Rear Sight: UTG BUIS Lower Assembly: Anderson/PSA - Caliber: Multi - Lower Receiver: Anderson - Lower Parts Kit: PSA - Grip: Resurgent Arms featureless grip - Buffer Tube Assembly: PSA - Stock: Magpul MOE carbine stock Total Weight: 6 pounds, 11.5 ounces https://i.imgur.com/VmK6QQY.jpg Upper Assembly: Palmetto State Armory (PSA) - Caliber: 5.56x45mm - Barrel: 16", Pencil Profile - Gas System: Midlength - Handguard: PSA standard CAR-15 handguards - Upper Receiver: PSA - Bolt Carrier Group (BCG): PSA - Charging Handle: PSA - Rear Sight: UTG BUIS Lower Assembly: Anderson/PSA - Caliber: Multi - Lower Receiver: Anderson - Lower Parts Kit: PSA - Grip: Resurgent Arms featureless grip - Buffer Tube Assembly: PSA - Stock: Blackhawk Knoxx stock Total Weight: 6 pounds, 1.5 ounces ********** Where did those 10 ounces come from? ~5.5 ounces saved by moving from government/M4-barrel profile to pencil barrel profile: https://i.imgur.com/z7yamoH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IV37Q0X.jpg ~2.0 ounces saved by moving from Magpul M-LOK to standard handguards: https://i.imgur.com/yEMBaBt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bsfnvwG.jpg ~2.5 ounces saved by moving from Magpul carbine stock to Blackhawk Knoxx stock: https://i.imgur.com/9GjIRAO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fkQ0eXK.jpg (The weight difference was only ~1 ounce at first, but I removed the sling swivel to save more weight.) https://i.imgur.com/mdG8QJ5.jpg Here's the kicker though. Total cost to make these modifications? $0 dollars. If you shop right, pencil barrels can be just as cheap as "regular" government/M4 barrel profiles, M-LOK handguards actually cost more than standard handguards, and the Blackhawk stock comes with budget lower build kits. Obviously, going from seven pounds to six pounds is quite a bit easier than going from six pounds to five pounds -- but I hope I've demonstrated that 1) ounces start to add up and 2) you can cut weight cheaply. View Quote lost and under 6 pounds total. |
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Too much excuse. Not enough work.
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No good will come from me fighting your war....-John Carter
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[Last Edit: andrewz71]
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Anyone know if the LWRC ultra compact setup will be lighter then a PWS enhanced buffer tube (4.3oz) and Magpul SL-k (7.9oz)? I also have a 2A adj bcg so I could lighten the buffer more then a standard carbine buffer with no weights, etc...
I'll post pic's of my rebel LW build as soon as I get home. |
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Originally Posted By andrewz71:
Anyone know if the LWRC ultra compact setup will be lighter then a PWS enhanced buffer tube (4.3oz) and Magpul SL-k (7.9oz)? I also have a 2A adj bcg so I could lighten the buffer more then a standard carbine buffer with no weights, etc... I'll post pic's of my rebel LW build as soon as I get home. View Quote Buffer is inside the tube with flatwire spring over buffer (as shipped in the bag). Attached File UC2 buffer is 3.1 oz Attached File The buttstock alone is 7.45 oz Attached File Hope that helps. |
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Originally Posted By Variable556:
The UCIW stock is pretty beefy. The buffer adds a bunch with the tungsten, but the buttstock itself is beefy as well. Buffer is inside the tube with flatwire spring over buffer (as shipped in the bag). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/6421AF10-F2B2-4D67-9940-7E0AC24C491E_jpeg-894618.JPG UC2 buffer is 3.1 oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/1CA47521-8410-4508-821C-066CE07F5012_jpeg-894621.JPG The buttstock alone is 7.45 oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/299FA1A5-A2AF-4EAF-AF19-F3C6B00DDF06_jpeg-894623.JPG Hope that helps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Variable556:
Originally Posted By andrewz71:
Anyone know if the LWRC ultra compact setup will be lighter then a PWS enhanced buffer tube (4.3oz) and Magpul SL-k (7.9oz)? I also have a 2A adj bcg so I could lighten the buffer more then a standard carbine buffer with no weights, etc... I'll post pic's of my rebel LW build as soon as I get home. Buffer is inside the tube with flatwire spring over buffer (as shipped in the bag). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/6421AF10-F2B2-4D67-9940-7E0AC24C491E_jpeg-894618.JPG UC2 buffer is 3.1 oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/1CA47521-8410-4508-821C-066CE07F5012_jpeg-894621.JPG The buttstock alone is 7.45 oz https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/299FA1A5-A2AF-4EAF-AF19-F3C6B00DDF06_jpeg-894623.JPG Hope that helps. |
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Liberal Tears, The other CLP.
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Originally Posted By butlers:
I know there are some lightweight ARs out there: Faxon -- 4 lbs, 15 oz for ~$2000: https://faxonfirearms.com/fx5500-ultralight-ar15/ Wilson Combat -- 6 lbs, 11 oz for ~$2000: https://www.wilsoncombat.com/tactical-lightweight/ But it's possible to get a lightweight AR without breaking the bank. Here are two nearly identical budget builds: https://i.imgur.com/rNRXTXo.jpg Upper Assembly: Palmetto State Armory (PSA) - Caliber: 5.56x45mm - Barrel: 16", Government/M4 Profile - Gas System: Midlength - Handguard: Magpul MOE M-LOK hand guard, mid-length - Upper Receiver: PSA - Bolt Carrier Group (BCG): PSA - Charging Handle: PSA - Rear Sight: UTG BUIS Lower Assembly: Anderson/PSA - Caliber: Multi - Lower Receiver: Anderson - Lower Parts Kit: PSA - Grip: Resurgent Arms featureless grip - Buffer Tube Assembly: PSA - Stock: Magpul MOE carbine stock Total Weight: 6 pounds, 11.5 ounces https://i.imgur.com/VmK6QQY.jpg Upper Assembly: Palmetto State Armory (PSA) - Caliber: 5.56x45mm - Barrel: 16", Pencil Profile - Gas System: Midlength - Handguard: PSA standard CAR-15 handguards - Upper Receiver: PSA - Bolt Carrier Group (BCG): PSA - Charging Handle: PSA - Rear Sight: UTG BUIS Lower Assembly: Anderson/PSA - Caliber: Multi - Lower Receiver: Anderson - Lower Parts Kit: PSA - Grip: Resurgent Arms featureless grip - Buffer Tube Assembly: PSA - Stock: Blackhawk Knoxx stock Total Weight: 6 pounds, 1.5 ounces ********** Where did those 10 ounces come from? ~5.5 ounces saved by moving from government/M4-barrel profile to pencil barrel profile: https://i.imgur.com/z7yamoH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IV37Q0X.jpg ~2.0 ounces saved by moving from Magpul M-LOK to standard handguards: https://i.imgur.com/yEMBaBt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bsfnvwG.jpg ~2.5 ounces saved by moving from Magpul carbine stock to Blackhawk Knoxx stock: https://i.imgur.com/9GjIRAO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fkQ0eXK.jpg (The weight difference was only ~1 ounce at first, but I removed the sling swivel to save more weight.) https://i.imgur.com/mdG8QJ5.jpg Here's the kicker though. Total cost to make these modifications? $0 dollars. If you shop right, pencil barrels can be just as cheap as "regular" government/M4 barrel profiles, M-LOK handguards actually cost more than standard handguards, and the Blackhawk stock comes with budget lower build kits. Obviously, going from seven pounds to six pounds is quite a bit easier than going from six pounds to five pounds -- but I hope I've demonstrated that 1) ounces start to add up and 2) you can cut weight cheaply. View Quote AR-15 The lightest budget AR-15 I could build without going crazy (e.g. carbon fiber). Upper: Ballistics Advantage barreled upper receiver (16" pencil barrel without muzzle device, carbine-length gas system) with Ballistics Advantage BCG/CH Lower: Aero Precision stripped lower receiver + Palmetto State Armory/Magpul lower build kit + featureless parts (yes, I'm in California) Total Weight: 5.6 pounds Length of Pull: 12.5" Mini-14 The lightest wood stock, optics-ready Mini-14 I could put together. Barrel: 16" NRA edition Stock: old-school wood stock, see here for more details. https://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger-mini-14-mini-30/180586-stock-weights.html#post1538284 Total Weight: 6.6 pounds Length of Pull: 12.5" |
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Originally Posted By ahrion: I'm not sure if this counts, but I have my POF Rogue small frame 308 16.5" AR (heavily modified) at 6lbs w/ irons w/o mag and w/ scope w/o mag coming in at 7.5 lbs. I've also modified Superlative Arms piston kit to work with this setup. It's certainly lighter than my 16" PWS MK116 mod 2 lightweight. I think I can shave off about 1 oz after I receiver my new titanium muzzle brake. https://i.ibb.co/g3pjfVY/IMG-20200911-225208-01.jpg View Quote Heck yeah it counts. Nice. |
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Originally Posted By ahrion: I'm not sure if this counts, but I have my POF Rogue small frame 308 16.5" AR (heavily modified) at 6lbs w/ irons w/o mag and w/ scope w/o mag coming in at 7.5 lbs. I've also modified Superlative Arms piston kit to work with this setup. It's certainly lighter than my 16" PWS MK116 mod 2 lightweight. I think I can shave off about 1 oz after I receiver my new titanium muzzle brake. https://i.ibb.co/g3pjfVY/IMG-20200911-225208-01.jpg View Quote Definetly counts, especially for a .308. Nice job. |
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No good will come from me fighting your war....-John Carter
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That is a very unique Surefire mount on the FSB. I am curious if it is a commercially available item?
If so, who is the vendor and what is the make/ model? |
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Just a smidge over 5 lbs with optic. I think I am going to swap out the slick side upper for a standard one. The slick side is much thicker and is slightly heavier. |
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I tried that whole cancer thing. It wasn't for me. Good Riddance.
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Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
"Pretty much the only thing that keeps me paying my taxes and not turning my house into a chickenshit particle board and stucco compound is the fact that the police occasionally kill douchebag criminals in comical ways. |
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An armed society is a polite society.
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