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Posted: 5/14/2023 1:29:41 PM EDT
So I found this sitting the back of my safe, and other than being a Surefire, I’m not sure what it is. It’s an Arms #17 mount with what I’m assuming is a M951. It’s definitely got an incandescent bulb and runs on 2 CR123s.
The tail cap has a push button and a spot for what appears to be a 2.5mm input for a pressure switch. I was gonna buy a M300 or M600 but if I can upgrade this with a new head and new mount and not spend a bunch, that would be awesome.  
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Posted: 5/14/2023 2:23:47 PM EDT
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I looked into exactly this and the head is near the cost of a new light, as it is the most expensive part. The rest is just a tube and switch.
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Posted: 5/14/2023 2:36:37 PM EDT
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Yes, it's an M951.
You can use one of these Malkoff drop in heads, read their descriptions to see the differences, and also note the parts about needing the additional ring for use in the M951. https://malkoffdevices.com/collections/surefire-drop-ins-for-6p-g2-c2-etc-6-9-volts |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 3:48:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, it's an M951. You can use one of these Malkoff drop in heads, read their descriptions to see the differences, and also note the parts about needing the additional ring for use in the M951. https://malkoffdevices.com/collections/surefire-drop-ins-for-6p-g2-c2-etc-6-9-volts Awesome. Do you happen to know if the malkoff upgrade has a smaller head sue than the M951? |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 4:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome. Do you happen to know if the malkoff upgrade has a smaller head sue than the M951? |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 5:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you mean head size, the outer head of the light is reused as is, the replacement bulb assembly goes inside it instead of the P60 incandescent bulb assembly it comes with. Yeah I meant size. Stupid phone got me on that one. I thought there was a whole head conversion that screwed on and had a smaller OD than the Surefire but I might be mistaken |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 5:22:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I meant size. Stupid phone got me on that one. I thought there was a whole head conversion that screwed on and had a smaller OD than the Surefire but I might be mistaken https://malkoffdevices.com/products/malkoff-md90-adapter-for-surefire-mh90-body |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 5:33:26 PM EDT
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If you end up just getting a new weapon lite there are several companies that beat the pants off surefire these days.
Modlite just released the hog weapon light. Similar form factor to your picture with a beam that will almost hit the moon. |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 8:38:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Malakoff also makes a thread adaptor that allows you to use Scout pattern heads on that body, but that's going to be more expensive unless you have spare scout heads on hand. https://malkoffdevices.com/products/malkoff-md90-adapter-for-surefire-mh90-body Alright so definitely just gonna do the drop in upgrade. Quoted: If you end up just getting a new weapon lite there are several companies that beat the pants off surefire these days. Modlite just released the hog weapon light. Similar form factor to your picture with a beam that will almost hit the moon. I’ll end up buying another light cause I have at least one more rifle that needs one and I'm sure I’ll end up paying for something nice. Just not in the cards right now. As far as the mount, is there a way to mount it on Mlok? I noticed the mounting screws are oriented the same way as the Scout lights, just further apart. My Google-fu might be weak or I just don’t know what I’m looking cause I couldn’t find anything besides normal Scout style mounts. Last, will any of the 2.5mm pressure switches work for this tailcap? I guess worst case, I can save it for a Mk18 clone. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 8:27:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alright so definitely just gonna do the drop in upgrade. I’ll end up buying another light cause I have at least one more rifle that needs one and I'm sure I’ll end up paying for something nice. Just not in the cards right now. As far as the mount, is there a way to mount it on Mlok? I noticed the mounting screws are oriented the same way as the Scout lights, just further apart. My Google-fu might be weak or I just don’t know what I’m looking cause I couldn’t find anything besides normal Scout style mounts. Last, will any of the 2.5mm pressure switches work for this tailcap? I guess worst case, I can save it for a Mk18 clone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Malakoff also makes a thread adaptor that allows you to use Scout pattern heads on that body, but that's going to be more expensive unless you have spare scout heads on hand. https://malkoffdevices.com/products/malkoff-md90-adapter-for-surefire-mh90-body Alright so definitely just gonna do the drop in upgrade. Quoted: If you end up just getting a new weapon lite there are several companies that beat the pants off surefire these days. Modlite just released the hog weapon light. Similar form factor to your picture with a beam that will almost hit the moon. I’ll end up buying another light cause I have at least one more rifle that needs one and I'm sure I’ll end up paying for something nice. Just not in the cards right now. As far as the mount, is there a way to mount it on Mlok? I noticed the mounting screws are oriented the same way as the Scout lights, just further apart. My Google-fu might be weak or I just don’t know what I’m looking cause I couldn’t find anything besides normal Scout style mounts. Last, will any of the 2.5mm pressure switches work for this tailcap? I guess worst case, I can save it for a Mk18 clone. You need a “Millenium” series mount. You’ll have to search around, though, as there were never too many companies making them and with SF discontinuing that light body mount pattern, there’s really no reason for anyone to still be making them. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 1:06:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You need a "Millenium" series mount. You'll have to search around, though, as there were never too many companies making them and with SF discontinuing that light body mount pattern, there's really no reason for anyone to still be making them. https://arisakadefense.com/offset-m620-adapter/ |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 2:31:30 PM EDT
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Welp, it definitely doesn’t seem worth it outside of maybe spending the $50 or less for a Malkoff drop in LED upgrade. I’ll keep it around in case I end up with something that has picatinny and needs a light.
Probably just pony up for a new Modlite or similar. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 2:37:23 PM EDT
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Another thing to consider, I think complete of Millennium lights still fetch decent money from people looking to clone early GWOT builds. You might be able to make enough in selling it as is to get you most of the way into a new setup.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 4:02:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another thing to consider, I think complete of Millennium lights still fetch decent money from people looking to clone early GWOT builds. You might be able to make enough in selling it as is to get you most of the way into a new setup. Hadn’t thought about that. Guess I’m gonna go research what a M951 is worth. |
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